View Poll Results: Should the Flames consider bringing Iggy back?
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12-11-2016, 02:34 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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This isn't snark, just a real question... have the people who are commenting on how bad Iginla is now been watching a fair number of Avalanche games in the past few seasons?
If it is true that he is that bad, then I understand the reluctance to bring him back and I agree with you. I just haven't watched him play much except against Calgary.
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12-11-2016, 02:36 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by boogerz
Unlike those players, Iginla's skills have diminished to the point where he is not an impact or useful player on the ice.
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If iggy is coming in just for the playoff run, you'd only be lookng at less than 30 games...
i honestly can't remember the impact of guys like andreychuk and bourque, though i do recall Recchi actually making an impact.
while there is no question his skills have eroded, i think that he would be able to sip from that fountain of youth for one last run for the cup...
all depends on the cost of acquisition for me...
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12-11-2016, 02:36 PM
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#123
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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This thread needs a poll
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12-11-2016, 02:39 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
Unlike those players, Iginla's skills have diminished to the point where he is not an impact or useful player on the ice.
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He was still basically a 20 goal 50 pt guy last year. Yes he's struggling this year but there could be some gas left in the tank in a better environment. The guy has over 600 goals in the NHL his skills wont just disappear. Footspeed is a different story.
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12-11-2016, 02:39 PM
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#125
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Lifetime Suspension
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Is Iginla an NHL player at this point?
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12-11-2016, 02:44 PM
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#126
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Is Iginla an NHL player at this point?
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Well he's playing in the NHL...so, yes?
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12-11-2016, 02:48 PM
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#127
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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With how strong and energetic the forecheck has been, I wouldn't bring Iginla into the fold. I appreciate what he's done for the club, but our current style of play would expose his weaknesses.
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12-11-2016, 02:52 PM
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#128
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I'm pretty torn on this one. It'd be super cool to have Iggy back in a Flames uniform for some actual hockey games (rather than some sort of ceremonial retirement or whatever), but it's also far too early in the season still to even be entertaining the decision. The team's current run will end and it's possible that they may slump again at some point, so an assessment has to be made closer to the deadline as to whether or not this is the sort of piece the team should really be chasing.
Secondly, I can't think of many players on the team right now who I'd prefer to sub out in favour of Iggy. Chiasson's way younger and is probably more versatile than a guy like Iggy, who you'd be bringing in to play a fairly niche role at this stage I'd imagine.
All of this withstanding...tough call.
Edit: I should also add that I also don't foresee there being much chance of this actually happening. Treliving has no sentimental attachment to Jarome and seems far too shrewd to pursue some nostalgic quest to get Iggy back in a Flames uniform.
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12-11-2016, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Savvy27
This isn't snark, just a real question... have the people who are commenting on how bad Iginla is now been watching a fair number of Avalanche games in the past few seasons?
If it is true that he is that bad, then I understand the reluctance to bring him back and I agree with you. I just haven't watched him play much except against Calgary.
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I have made a point of watching him when I can, maybe 20-25 periods so far this season. He is still an asset - his shot hasn't gone away much, and still a tough customer, but he's more of a 'finisher' than anything right now. He doesn't drive the play, but he's a weapon once his teammates get it into the offensive zone.
His defensive game and passing skills have never been extraordinary, and now that he's lost a step he can't compensate like he used to.
Obviously very much still an NHL player, but I think any return back to Calgary at this point will end in disappointment
Edit: I should have also clarified - his teammates have been poopey. He's playing better than his stat line suggests. But if his linemates aren't successful, he doesn't seem able to put the play on his back and will the puck down the ice.
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12-11-2016, 02:55 PM
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#130
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Wasn't item 6 in the recent down goes brown article saying how fans of NHL teams brlieve thier wayward superstar will return home to close it out?
I think it would likely be a bad idea to bring iggy back
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12-11-2016, 03:00 PM
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#131
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Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
The people who want him here want him here for selfish reasons. Iginla isn't an upgrade on a single player on this team and would literally add nothing.
He's 39 years old and there isn't much left in the tank. Time to let it go.
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We're fans here, so whether you want him to come back, or you don't want him to come back, the reasons are selfish.
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12-11-2016, 03:20 PM
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#132
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The Flames aren't legit contenders. I'd much rather Iginla go and play for a playoff-built team with all the pieces in place and has good health come deadline day. Even if the Flames make the playoffs, the team isn't built to go deep and isn't getting there even if Iginla joins
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12-11-2016, 03:31 PM
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#133
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
The Flames aren't legit contenders. I'd much rather Iginla go and play for a playoff-built team with all the pieces in place and has good health come deadline day. Even if the Flames make the playoffs, the team isn't built to go deep and isn't getting there even if Iginla joins
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And in a nutshell that pretty much sums up the entire gist of this discussion:
1. The Fans (us) want Iggy to retire a Flame.
2. The Fans are optimistic that that the Flames will make the playoffs.
3. The Fans understand that our RW depth is more or less reprehensible.
4. Iginla indicates that theres a chance he'd waive his NTC.
5. Iginla is unquestionably declining but could still have his uses.
6. Iginla's services are probably not desired by an actual contender.
7. The cost would have to be right and that is incredibly low.
So, from a fan's perspective you can see how the pieces kind of line up to make the situation's needle move from 'Not Happening' to 'Not Likely.'
And 'Not Likely' does not mean: 'Impossible.'
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12-11-2016, 03:48 PM
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#134
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Poll?
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12-11-2016, 03:50 PM
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#135
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Originally Posted by TBone290
Poll?
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What do you want the Poll question to be?
"Do the Fans want it?"
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"Should the Team Do it?"
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"Will it happen?"
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12-11-2016, 03:55 PM
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#136
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It is obviously pretty early to speculate but which of the current contenders could be interested in Iginla? I don't see many options for him at this point. Maybe Columbus or LA or Winnipeg (although I don't think they will be in the playoff hunt)? I doubt a team like NYR, Montreal, Pittsburgh, Washington or Chicago would want/need him.
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12-11-2016, 03:59 PM
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#137
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Originally Posted by Locke
What do you want the Poll question to be?
"Do the Fans want it?"
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"Should the Team Do it?"
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"Will it happen?"
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1) you want him back but it's for nostalgic reasons
2) you want him back and feel he'd improve the team
3) you don't want him back
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12-11-2016, 04:02 PM
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#138
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by getbak
Recchi had 14 points in 25 games for the Bruins in the 2011 playoffs, at the age of 43.
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Also helped in Carolina a few years prior when they won. Bill Guerin helped the Penguins didn't he? Timonen in 2015 for the Hawks, he was around 39 or 40 and Hossa was probably 35+ back then too (he is only a few years younger than Iggy). Rozsival (slow as fawk though a bit younger in his early 30's) still contributed to the Hawks in 2013. All of these examples aren't exactly Ray Bourque-esque, but you get the picture, all old and "slow" guys who managed to contribute on championship winning teams in the twilight of their careers. Regular season is one thing, but playoffs is a completely different beast.
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12-11-2016, 04:02 PM
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#139
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As a fan of Iggy and his irrefutable contributions to both the franchise and the city, this thread reads kinda like that lonely guy who is still pining for his ex years after they broke up and she's remarried with kids and a happy life.
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12-11-2016, 04:04 PM
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#140
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Scoring Winger
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Iginla
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Completely agree just so long as the fans expectations are tempered Iggy wouldn't be the take over a shift kind of player like he was but he would be a great depth player and still has that ability to find open space for his quick wrist shot and always has been a smooth passer.
Iginla has lasted in the NHL not just because of his shot, supreme physical conditioning but he always has had a high hockey IQ.
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IQ that told him to avoid the defensive zone and you'll score lots of goals!!
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