[Trade] Canucks trade Jared McCann, 2nd, 4th to Panthers for Erik Gudbranson + 5th

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Gudbranson is a player I'd definitely take on the Flames.

Way too many people on here forgetting about the upcoming expansion draft. No sense in giving up assets for a #4 d-man like that until that's out of the way.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I would in a second. But what's our equivalent of Mccann?

Janko maybe.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Whenever you have no prospects and a bad team.... always a smart move to trade away a guy who played in the NHL at 19 and some high draft picks.

They picked up a dman who played in the NHL at 19

[Cali Panthers Fan]

One more note about Gudbranson:

He was tasked with shadowing John Tavares in the playoffs this year, and while he was good for the most part when I watched, he and his team were torched for 9 points in 6 games. What does this mean? He's a good defensive d-man, but you cannot expect him to go against the best players in the league. He will get burned.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Why not? It's not like the Canucks picked up some veteran nearing retirement in the deal, Their defensive play was absolutely terrible and they addressed that need with a 24 year old defensive stalwart that will also bring them a much needed physical presence. That is a major move to try to stop them from being a bottom 5 team again.

Because they should be accumulating picks and prospects, not trading them away. It would be like if two years ago the Flames traded Jankowski+34 overall for Luke Schenn. It's a dumb move given the current state of the franchise, just my opinion.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

One more note about Gudbranson:

He was tasked with shadowing John Tavares in the playoffs this year, and while he was good for the most part when I watched, he and his team were torched for 9 points in 6 games. What does this mean? He's a good defensive d-man, but you cannot expect him to go against the best players in the league. He will get burned.

We can look forward to lil Johnny dancing around Gudbranson for years to come!

[GoJetsGo]

I wonder if this trade makes it more palatable for Vancouver to swap 5 for 6 and a 2nd with us...

Anyone know off the top of their head how many picks we have in the top 100 vs. Vancouver? For a team who's starting to rebuild that must be comical.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

One more note about Gudbranson:

He was tasked with shadowing John Tavares in the playoffs this year, and while he was good for the most part when I watched, he and his team were torched for 9 points in 6 games. What does this mean? He's a good defensive d-man, but you cannot expect him to go against the best players in the league. He will get burned.

ya I thought the same thing, Tavares did play really well that series and shot about 20% so the total points is a bit inflated but I don't think Gudbranson is a top pairing shutdown guy, he won't need to be here either because Tanev is

[Dogbert]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Gudbranson is a player I'd definitely take on the Flames. By the sounds of it he's a younger version of Engelland. We need big bruisers on our bottom pair and if he manages to get the same salary, Gudbranson > Engelland.

I wouldn't. A better pylon is still a pylon.

The game has passed guys like Engelland and Gudbranson by. You need to be able to skate and have some semblance of skill.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

On the other end of this deal, I honestly wonder where McCann plays on this team. Does he get moved to wing?

Barkov
Trocheck
Bjugstad
Bolland
McKenzie

I have a suspicion that Bolland gets moved in some sort of crap for crap deal in order to make room for McCann.

For a second there, I read Bolland as Bollig and thought I missed Treliving working his magic in somehow off-loading him to Florida

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Dogbert

I wouldn't. A better pylon is still a pylon.

The game has passed guys like Engelland and Gudbranson by. You need to be able to skate and have some semblance of skill.

The game has passed a player who is 24 years old and was a third overall draft pick? You might want to turn on an NHL game that doesn't involve the Canadiens.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Um, Gudbranson is a pretty damned good skater. He's just not managed to reach expectations of a top 5 pick. He's Erik Johnsonesque in that way.

See, this deal wouldn't be so terrible if it were made by the Canucks of four or five years ago. It's the situation they're in, where they're not going to be a contender for years even if they do things right, that makes this a silly trade.

[Samonadreau]

If going after guy like Gudbranson is Benning's solution to not taking a D with his 1st rounder this year than that solution means still no future top pairing D.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

They need a future #1C far more. But unless Dubois exceeds expectations they probably won't get one of those either. They needed the draft lottery win probably more than anyone. The Leafs could have settled for someone to play on Nylander's wing, but the Canucks just have no one to succeed H Sedin and it's been an obvious problem for years now.

[Blaster86]

I mean, my opinion on McCann was stated when he was drafted. He went in the first round to a Canadian city that would embrace him like no other and he walked up to the podium like he was in a funeral procession and then his interview afterwards gave me the impression he wanted no part in coming to Vancouver.

[Dogbert]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

The game has passed a player who is 24 years old and was a third overall draft pick? You might want to turn on an NHL game that doesn't involve the Canadiens.

You don't draft guys like Gudbranson that high anymore. Florida figured out they'd goofed, and pawned him off to some sucker (whom I hope remains employed for a long time).

I've seen more than enough of Gudbranson. He sucks. Do not want.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

he walked up to the podium like he was in a funeral procession and then his interview afterwards gave me the impression he wanted no part in coming to Vancouver.

Which was fantastic!

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Haha Willie Mitchell

Willie Mitchell @Willie_Mitch33
�� WTF

Yep....

that says an awful lot about this trade. Wasnt Mitchell the former team captain in FLA?

I wish Gudbranson was coming here. That's the #4 guy we need to finish off our top 2 pairings for the next 5 years.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Yep....

that says an awful lot about this trade. Wasnt Mitchell the former team captain in FLA?

I wish Gudbranson was coming here. That's the #4 guy we need to finish off our top 2 pairings for the next 5 years.

I thought he still was the Captain. Did I miss his retirement?

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I mean, my opinion on McCann was stated when he was drafted. He went in the first round to a Canadian city that would embrace him like no other and he walked up to the podium like he was in a funeral procession and then his interview afterwards gave me the impression he wanted no part in coming to Vancouver.

Confirmed.

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Hello McCann.

"We don't want players that don't want to be here" - Jim Benning, Earlier today.

Good bye McCann.