Today is the day I decided to quit smoking marijuana

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by AcGold

I don't need research to verify personal experience. I run a faster mile (5:57) with cannabis than without (6:14). What works for me may not work for others but you can't really just say my experience is BS when you're not me.

So if we accept what you are saying, who do you know it is due to increased lung capacity.

Have you tested your lung capacity stoned and not stoned?

As an aside, I find I can run faster & longer in the rain. I don't attribute it to an increased lung capacity due to rain.

Perhaps there are other factors at play.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its the same with cigarettes, especially when you first start. But you are doing long term damage to your lungs.

whether its dope or its tobacco, inhaling anything that is a contaminating factor will kill your lungs.

Yeah, I've never disillusioned myself into thinking that smoking anything isn't damaging your lungs. Regardless of joints, bongs or vaporizers. Some are obviously better than others, but none of it is "good"for the lungs.

[Weitz]

Running is a hugely mental thing anyways.

If you convince yourself smoking helps you run, it probably will.

[polak]

I love(d) skiing baked. It made me feel like I was invincible.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by polak

I love(d) skiing baked. It made me feel like I was invincible.

Yes snowboarding on a few hoots with one ear bud in is glorious.

But you can't do it until at least lunch time, otherwise your day is blown.

[polak]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Yes snowboarding on a few hoots with one ear bud in is glorious.

But you can't do it until at least lunch time, otherwise your day is blown.

One time I went with a couple buddies and we hot boxed the Gondola on the way up. We skied maybe 4 runs? Had an hour lunch twice though.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by polak

One time I went with a couple buddies and we hot boxed the Gondola on the way up. We skied maybe 4 runs? Had an hour lunch twice though.

Ahh yes ye olde gongala.

[Forbsey-123]

Any updates from the OP? Wonder if he's stickin to it?

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

So if we accept what you are saying, who do you know it is due to increased lung capacity.

Have you tested your lung capacity stoned and not stoned?

As an aside, I find I can run faster & longer in the rain. I don't attribute it to an increased lung capacity due to rain.

Perhaps there are other factors at play.

Experientally I can take deeper breaths and keep my mouth closed longer. I'm not the first person to make this claim, but thanks for the condescending lesson. Good to know rain doesn't increase lung capacity, really applicable analogy.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Forbsey-123

Any updates from the OP? Wonder if he's stickin to it?

Whatever he's doing I hope he's finding his way.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

Anyone else's libido goes through the roof when smoking? I had to take a break because of that...

Originally Posted by polak

My GFs. Im the opposite. It created issues.

That might be due to your advanced age more then anything.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Experientally I can take deeper breaths and keep my mouth closed longer. I'm not the first person to make this claim, but thanks for the condescending lesson. Good to know rain doesn't increase lung capacity, really applicable analogy.

"Experimentally", my point is that the effects you feel may not be physical in any way. They may all be psychological, in much the same way I run longer and fast in the rain due to some psychological effect. Rainout certainly doesn't increase your lung capacity, much like I don't believe the inhalation of pot smoke has an automatic increase in lung capacity.

Just because I disagree with you or question you doesn't mean you need to throw your toys.

[polak]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

That might be due to your advanced age more then anything.

Time to snort some viagra?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

"Experimentally", my point is that the effects you feel may not be physical in any way. They may all be psychological, in much the same way I run longer and fast in the rain due to some psychological effect. Rainout certainly doesn't increase your lung capacity, much like I don't believe the inhalation of pot smoke has an automatic increase in lung capacity.

Just because I disagree with you or question you doesn't mean you need to throw your toys.

You might have missed this:

Originally Posted by Reaper

THC has been found to be a bronchioldialator. It opens up your lungs and gives you higher capacity for oxygen absorption.

This may sound crazy. After all, we're all familiar with the image of the couch-locked, Cheetos-covered stoner.

Yet there are people that say training while high has helped them unlock new performance gains.

In November, Men's Journal interviewed elite triathlete Clifford Drusinsky, a Colorado gym owner who also leads training sessions fueled by marijuana edibles.

"Marijuana relaxes me and allows me to go into a controlled, meditational place," Drusinsky told Men's Journal. "When I get high, I train smarter and focus on form."

Outside Magazine correspondent Gordy Megroz wrote in the February issue of that magazine that while he has never been much of a pot smoker, he heard enough close friends — especially skiers — say that getting high helped their performance that he decided to give it a shot.

Megroz first tried a cannabis gummy while on one of those snow-covered mountains and wrote that with a "slight yet very functional high," he "felt invincible and proceeded to attack the steepest lines without fear" — ski-speak for feeling able to tackle the craziest parts of a mountain. It's easy to see how this kind of fearlessness could be appealing to an expert skier, but could lead anyone — especially a novice — into making a dangerous decision.

Stanford Medical School professor Keith Humphreys explained to Megroz that there's a scientific explanation for this. "We have cannabinoid receptors throughout our brains, and when the THC hits those receptors, it triggers a system that reduces anxiety," Humphreys said. "That you would feel more aggressive is a natural reaction to the drug."

In the World Anti-Doping Association's current ban on competing while stoned, the organization cites studies that show marijuana can decrease anxiety and increase airflow to the lungs by acting as a bronchodilator, something that decreases resistance in the airways.

So Megroz decided to perform further tests, with the help (and under the supervision) of a physiologist.

The basic test was simple. He got on a treadmill, set the pace for five miles per hour, and then increased the ramp angle 2.5% every two minutes.

Sober, he could keep it up for 19 minutes. But stoned, he could last 19:30 — a "substantial performance gain," according to the physiologist. He repeated the test twice more with similar results.

He also found that he got less sore after a heavy squat session.

In other words, getting stoned helped him perform and recover better.

But while testing mountain-biking performance, results weren't quite as good. He writes that while he started off feeling "flowy and fast, [riding] much better than when" sober, he soon misjudged his speed and rode off the trail.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mariju...150300290.html

[Righteous1]

Ah man I hit the bong for the first time in a while last night. Best sleep ever!

[bluck]

Originally Posted by Forbsey-123

Any updates from the OP? Wonder if he's stickin to it?

Quick update from me here guys. I had a few blips in the road but I'm proud to say I haven't bought any weed in the last 2 months and the only time I have smoked has been on the rare occasion socially with friends. I've saved a lot of money and I feel good. With summer around the corner it's nice to do things outdoors which is a great distraction

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by bluck

Quick update from me here guys. I had a few blips in the road but I'm proud to say I haven't bought any weed in the last 2 months and the only time I have smoked has been on the rare occasion socially with friends. I've saved a lot of money and I feel good. With summer around the corner it's nice to do things outdoors which is a great distraction

The blips you had are not really a negitive. Everything in moderation.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

"Experimentally", my point is that the effects you feel may not be physical in any way. They may all be psychological, in much the same way I run longer and fast in the rain due to some psychological effect. Rainout certainly doesn't increase your lung capacity, much like I don't believe the inhalation of pot smoke has an automatic increase in lung capacity.

Just because I disagree with you or question you doesn't mean you need to throw your toys.

a terrible analogy is a terrible analogy. One thing that directly effects lungs is not the same as one thing that has zero effect on lungs. Throwing toys around, yeah I've heard that one before. Got anything else? And I said experiential, not experimental. What amazes me is that you are antagonistic to the point of being fanatically semantic because of a post in a thread from months ago about something you don't even really know what I think about it. You really have to pick a bone because I didn't vehemently agree about vaccines with you? It's getting ridiculous. Get over it. I'm not even certain how it effects my lungs, I just know it impacts performance but wow you just have a bone to pick and will not let it go. The shtick is old, you asked a question just waiting to pounce. Don't you have something better to do than hold a grudge over nothing?

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Sliver

You guys are taking crazy pills. On what planet is MJ performance enhancing? I've never heard of this and I've hung around with a lot of stoners in my day. I lived at Lake Louise for a year FFS. Is there any research to back this up? Seems like BS to me.

Seems alot of people that workout and ar runners disagree with you.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-m...ing-out-2015-1

Stanford Medical School professor Keith Humphreys explained to Megroz that there's a scientific explanation for this. "We have cannabinoid receptors throughout our brains, and when the THC hits those receptors, it triggers a system that reduces anxiety," Humphreys said. "That you would feel more aggressive is a natural reaction to the drug."

In the World Anti-Doping Association's current ban on competing while stoned, the organization cites studies that show marijuana can decrease anxiety and increase airflow to the lungs by acting as a bronchodilator, something that decreases resistance in the airways.

http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fi...arder-20141113

There could be other athletic advantages beyond pain relief. Studies have shown that low doses of  THC increase motor activity in mice — so maybe a bit of pot could equal a little extra speed. What's more, an intriguing study from the University of Bordeaux in France found that when the brain is exposed to marijuana, it reacts to the THC by producing more pregnenolone. That chemical is a precursor to the natural steroids produced by the body, and is often used as a supplement to increase energy and reduce fatigue.

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/spor...-1227214350537


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3654312/
In this article about why Marijuana and why its considered a performance enhancer is pretty bang on from what I know as a medical user.
Published by Frontiers in Psychiatry

Cannabis
smoking can be helpful for some activities
such as extreme sports, as it improves mus-
cle relaxation, reduces anxiety, and extincts
fear memories (e.g., negative experiences)
leading to enhanced performance. It is also
worthwhile to note that cannabis smoking
improves sleep time and recovery, which
may favor performance when an athlete
is facing multiple competitions in a short
period of time.

http://www.popsci.com/technology/art...ubstances-list

It violates the first (performance enhancement) because of its ability to decrease anxiety and fear, and potentially to improve some types of oxygenation and concentration.

http://www.hightimes.com/read/pot-pe...enhancing-drug

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) classifies pot as a Performance Enhancing Drug (PED) because of its ability to decrease anxiety and fear, as well as its potential to improve certain degrees of oxygenation and concentration.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by AcGold

I'm not even certain how it effects my lungs, I

At least we agree on something.