Burrows pulls Phil Kessel's hair...and injures himself doing so!

[Iggy Snipe]

Originally Posted by mister__big

An Alex Burrows Hat-Trick:

One goal, one assist and one hair-pull.

Its actually this

One bite
One pull
One cry

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by FAN

Maybe add Bob Hartley to the list. I think it's a French Canadian thing. Quebec has traditionally produced guys like Burrows.

Maybe? Anything that would make you think this or just conjecture?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I honestly wouldn't put it past Torts to have him sit a couple games for hair pulling and tell the media that it's an injury. Torts doesn't accept bs like that.

Very possible, I'd at least like to think so. I like Torts (When he's not being a raving idiot)

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by FAN

Maybe add Bob Hartley to the list. I think it's a French Canadian thing. Quebec has traditionally produced guys like Burrows.

That is a crock. And Bob Hartley is from Ontario.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FAN

Maybe add Bob Hartley to the list. I think it's a French Canadian thing. Quebec has traditionally produced guys like Burrows.

Hartley doesnt strike me as the kind of guy who would take Burrows' antics as a positive thing.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Maybe? Anything that would make you think this or just conjecture?

Just conjecture. Hartley wasn't shy about using agitators in the past.

Originally Posted by Red Ice Player

That is a crock. And Bob Hartley is from Ontario.

So? Ever heard of Franco-Ontarian? Ya I looked it up. Hartley obviously speaks with a French accent which is usually a red flag to look deeper when you see that he was born in Ontario.

[Trailer Fire]

Im racking my brain trying to think of a Burrows-esq player that Hartley has used in the past. He loves his goons, but not cheap shot artists.

[bubbsy]

i remember kerr (or someone) stating that hartley mentioned that bouma could be our max lappierre type player, in one of the recent SN flames broadcasts...

I threw up a little in my mouth when i heard that.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by FAN

Just conjecture. Hartley wasn't shy about using agitators in the past.



So? Ever heard of Franco-Ontarian? Ya I looked it up. Hartley obviously speaks with a French accent which is usually a red flag to look deeper when you see that he was born in Ontario.

Yes. I'm French Canadian from the same part of Ontario as Hartley. And I think Burrows is a POS. Its not a "French Canadian thing" but nice try. Why didn't you say Patrick Roy? At least he's from Quebec.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by FAN

Just conjecture. Hartley wasn't shy about using agitators in the past.



So? Ever heard of Franco-Ontarian? Ya I looked it up. Hartley obviously speaks with a French accent which is usually a red flag to look deeper when you see that he was born in Ontario.

I always find it amusing how some people think discriminating against French-Canadians is totally ok.

Thanks Don Cherry!

[metroneck]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i remember kerr (or someone) stating that hartley mentioned that bouma could be our max lappierre type player, in one of the recent SN flames broadcasts...

I threw up a little in my mouth when i heard that.

It wasn't Max Lappierre, it was Ian Laperriere he compared him to.

[Money Baer]

Originally Posted by metroneck

It wasn't Max Lappierre, it was Ian Laperriere he compared him to.

Quite a big difference there, too!

Tough as nails hockey player >>> POS little girl.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by metroneck

It wasn't Max Lappierre, it was Ian Laperriere he compared him to.

phew!

thanks for the clarification.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by FAN

Just conjecture. Hartley wasn't shy about using agitators in the past.

Oh, so now Burrows is just an "agitator" and somehow that's your reason for the negative suggestion that Hartley would be okay with him. Your original post looks worse the more you try and justify it. Maybe you just don't like Hartley?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Oh, so now Burrows is just an "agitator" and somehow that's your reason for the negative suggestion that Hartley would be okay with him. Your original post looks worse the more you try and justify it. Maybe you just don't like Hartley?

Burrows is an agitator. He isn't an overly dirty player but he is a player who agitates the opponents and the oppositions fans more than anyone else. I think that he does straddle the line and occasionally goes over the line Hartley has had Fleury, Nieminen and Petrovicky on his teams before and has employed players with a much worse record than Burrows (Parker being the prime example). Personally I think that this is a weird conversation because it is the GM that builds the team, not the coach... and Burke obviously doesn't have a problem with players of Burrows ilk.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

He isn't an overly dirty player

You lost me after you said this. Denial much?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Burrows is an agitator. He isn't an overly dirty player but he is a player who agitates the opponents and the oppositions fans more than anyone else. I think that he does straddle the line and occasionally goes over the line Hartley has had Fleury, Nieminen and Petrovicky on his teams before and has employed players with a much worse record than Burrows (Parker being the prime example). Personally I think that this is a weird conversation because it is the GM that builds the team, not the coach... and Burke obviously doesn't have a problem with players of Burrows ilk.

Well I guess we don't need to dive deep to look for objectivity from you. I don't remember any of those players biting, pulling hair, diving and embellishing to the same level as Burrows.

You have an argument about Parker, but nobody ever denied that Parker was a scumbag like you're denying that Burrows is a scumbag.

I think instead of the NHL getting rid of the instigator rule. One night a year the NHL should instigate the purge rule where anything that you do to players like Burrows and Kesler and Bieksa and some of the other dirt bags out there can't be penalized. And the way that you get on the purge rule is based on a points system based on your history.

Dives are worth one point, bites worth 20 hair pulls worth 50, intentional injury actions 100.

If you go over 200 points in your career, you're now on the purge list.

The NHL could make a fortune by having that one night a year where all teams play on ppv only.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Burrows is an agitator. He isn't an overly dirty player but he is a player who agitates the opponents and the oppositions fans more than anyone else. I think that he does straddle the line and occasionally goes over the line Hartley has had Fleury, Nieminen and Petrovicky on his teams before and has employed players with a much worse record than Burrows (Parker being the prime example). Personally I think that this is a weird conversation because it is the GM that builds the team, not the coach... and Burke obviously doesn't have a problem with players of Burrows ilk.

He bites, pulls hair, and fights freely only when wearing a full shield. Yeah, "occasionally".

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by the2bears

He bites, pulls hair, and fights freely only when wearing a full shield. Yeah, "occasionally".

I don't think that he is a clean player - but to the best of my knowledge he has never been suspended or has injured another player. He is a dick (or db) of a player and one who gets under the skin of other players, on that I have no argument, what I will say though is that I don't know if that translates into him being a dirty player. When I think of a dirty player I think of Daniel Carcillo, Raffi Torres or a Ben Eager, someone who takes runs at players and tries to hurt them. I don't think of Burrows in the same light, it could be my bias I fully admit that. I don't care much either way.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

...Personally I think that this is a weird conversation because it is the GM that builds the team, not the coach... and Burke obviously doesn't have a problem with players of Burrows ilk.

I"m sure Burke wouldn't appreciate that statement. While he certainly appreciates hard nosed tough players, he certainly doesn't strike me as the type of guy who condones hair pulling and biting.
Also while the GM builds a team, it's likely the character of the coach and team leaders that transcends through a lineup. To a point anyway, there has to be a line where expected behaviour is trumped by natural behaviour. like when you decide to bite someones finger or pull their hair. so that's probably not an indication of what's deemed acceptable, even in the Vancouver locker room.