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Old 01-24-2013, 11:14 AM   #121
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Iginla was fantastic last night. It's the same people complaining about him every year.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:23 AM   #122
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If Iginla was fantastic last night, we would have won 3-2.

He played a very good game. He should have scored there though. No excuses.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:27 AM   #123
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Iginla is past his prime. Some posters spend too much time trying to defend him on this forum. Trade him and move on.
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Jiri Hudler and Roman Cervenka on the ice at the Saddledome. Looks positive for them to play Saturday versus the Oilers.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:44 AM   #125
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Iginla is past his prime. Some posters spend too much time trying to defend him on this forum. Trade him and move on.

Het gets defended because he takes a ridculous amount of heat from other posters. Claiming he is a horrible captain when EVERY single person that talks about playing with him says he is one of the best leaders in the game.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:47 AM   #126
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Jiri Hudler and Roman Cervenka on the ice at the Saddledome. Looks positive for them to play Saturday versus the Oilers.
ya, exciting!

and ya Iggy is past his prime, it isn't news. He is still an elite player. He is still a Calgary Flame, I'm not sure what we will get for him, if we will get a blue chip prospect or not. I wouldn't mind seeing him leave and win a cup with someone else since it probably won't happen here in the next 5 years.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:49 AM   #127
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And a neat article about Hudler, Cervenka and Babchuk practicing with the Hitmen yesterday:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...188/story.html

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Just after warm-ups and just before the meat of the practice begins, one Calgary Hitmen member is selected to face Chris Driedger in a shootout/breakaway situation.
The player scores? The goalies skate.
Driedger denies? The players go for an extra loop.
And up until Wednesday, the team’s No. 1 netminder had been feeling pretty good about himself with very few goals allowed all year.
So, you can guess how happy his teammates were when Calgary Flames players Jiri Hudler, Roman Cervenka, and Anton Babchuk showed up to join the Western Hockey League kids for their icetime.
Taking Driedger down a peg or two, Hudler — who has 409 NHL games under his belt compared to Driedger’s zero — had the Hitmen hooting at the goaltenders’ loser’s lap. This after the 29-year-old former Detroit Red Wing centre showed off his stickhandling skills and then wired a shot to beat the lanky Ottawa Senators draft pick five-hole.
“I read him, too,” Driedger said, chuckling afterwards. “I knew EXACTLY what he was going to do and then he just beat me anyways.
“I saw him coming, but he has a pretty quick release . . . I got a piece of it. But it wasn’t enough.”
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“It was cool,” said Hitmen winger Calder Brooks who is also recovering from a shoulder injury and joined Cervenka and Hudler for the practice. “Being on a line with them, that was nice. I just tried to play with them the same way I play with my teammates. Give them the puck when they’re open and shoot the puck if they give it to me.
“Very skilled. Very talented.”
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Helgesen, a decently-sized six-foot-three, 192 pound teenager, faced the 27-year-old KHL phenom during some one-on-one action up the boards. You know the drill: charging forward tries to beat furiously back-pedalling defender and cuts toward the net or is steered out of harm’s way.
During Round 1, Helgesen had speed and kept up to Cervenka, keeping him to the outside. But during Round 2? Helgesen lost his footing and Cervenka beat him cleanly to take a shot.
The Hitmen defenceman figured as much.
“Playing against those NHL guys, when they’re coming at ya one-on-one, they’ll build a lot of speed and their puck skills are really good,” said the 18-year-old seventh-round selection of the Anaheim Ducks last June. “It can be pretty tough.
“You can easily tell their puck skills and their awareness of the puck out there. Their shots, too. It’s a level above most of us, anyway. You can definitely tell they’re NHL players.”
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:07 PM   #128
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Iginla was fantastic last night. It's the same people complaining about him every year.
Not sure how any of the Flames other than Kipper can be classified as "Fantastic".

1st Period was a mess, neither team played very well..

2nd Period, Canucks clearly dominated first 13 or 14 minutes... shots were 14-2.

Flames finished well, they had a strong 3rd and last 5 or 6 minutes of the second.

Its was a great finish but the Flames could have easly lost this game....
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:11 PM   #129
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Cervenka will help Iginla play better. You know, keeping in the spirit of this thread and all. which happens to be about Cervenka.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:16 PM   #130
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Het gets defended because he takes a ridculous amount of heat from other posters. Claiming he is a horrible captain when EVERY single person that talks about playing with him says he is one of the best leaders in the game.
Except his ex coaches and Rhett.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:18 PM   #131
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Except his ex coaches and Rhett.
Lol. Haven't heard that
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:21 PM   #132
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holy implosion...Cammi's a great player atleast give it 5-games????
Agreed, we all know what Cammalleri is, if he's not putting up points he doesn't look very effective. Even in his best season this is how it always worked. He's not going to be out there dangling and controlling the puck and causing havoc. He's an opportunistic shooter.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:25 PM   #133
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Except his ex coaches and Rhett.

Keenan constantly praises Iginla as a leader said he grew as the season wore on. Playfair and Sutter? 2 guys not fit to be head coaches in the NHL right now. Darryl Sutter has always been a big Iginla fan and I have never heard Rhett say anything negative about Jarome's leadership.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:27 PM   #134
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I think that's referring to Jim Playfair, who was demoted from head coaching duties, sent to Abb, then picked up for assistant coaching duties with the Phoenix Coyotes. He then went on to be a little critical about parts of Iginla's leadership to the media, obviously still a little bitter about leaving the organization the way he did, and then make comparisons between Doan and Iginla, claiming that Doan was just as good a player and leader on the ice as Iginla, even better in certain ways, seemingly glorifying His club's leader.

All except for the glaring fact that Doan isn't even in the same universe as Iginla on paper.

It wasn't received well by some people here, myself included.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:08 PM   #135
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Het gets defended because he takes a ridculous amount of heat from other posters. Claiming he is a horrible captain when EVERY single person that talks about playing with him says he is one of the best leaders in the game.
The guy just can't win. He's been playing the PK and has been a responsible 2-way forward so far this season by backchecking and supporting his teammates, but now that he's not scoring, the goals all of a sudden matter again.

He focuses on goal scoring, he's padding his stats. He focuses on overall team play, he's washed up.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:14 PM   #136
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I for one do not feel sorry for Iginla. He gets paid more than 99.99% of the worlds populace, when you get paid like that you better be open for criticism.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:15 PM   #137
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I've had no issue with Iginla's play so far this year. He can't score on every shift.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM   #138
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Jiri Hudler and Roman Cervenka on the ice at the Saddledome. Looks positive for them to play Saturday versus the Oilers.
Bring it on. Very excited about this.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM   #139
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The guy just can't win. He's been playing the PK and has been a responsible 2-way forward so far this season by backchecking and supporting his teammates, but now that he's not scoring, the goals all of a sudden matter again.

He focuses on goal scoring, he's padding his stats. He focuses on overall team play, he's washed up.
To me this is the best Iggy has looked in years. Having him playing on the PK seems to really help keep Iggy engaged in the game. He's playing a solid 2 way game and leads the team in shots by a lot (16 vs 10 for Tanguay who's second)

Normally, Iggy get 1 goal for every 8-9 shots, so with his normal shooting percentage he'd have 2 goals already. If he keeps this shot rate up (5.3/game), his shooting percentage will eventually regress to his mean (11-12.5%), and Iggy could end up with 28-32 goals this season. Of course, he's probably not going to keep getting 5+ shots per game, but if he does, he might surprise all of us.

I'm excited to see how he looks with Cervenka. Cervenka looks like he might have the skill to really help the top line.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:29 PM   #140
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Jiri is awesome.

Despite dealing with all that he had to he still watched all 3 games and seemed to already have a good idea of where the team needs to improve.

He's going to be a good leader with the knowledge of what it takes to win.

Handled his interviews very well. And said Cervenka is very excited to get in Saturday, and told him to not let his excitement get to him, but just focus on playing his game.

Pumped.
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