Roman Cervenka

[868904]

If it were a true meritocracy, Cammy and Iggy would probably sit for Hudler and Cervenka as they have been the two worst forwards.

Bouwmeester would also sit for Smith.

All 3 have a chance to redeem themselves tonight (not that they really have to worry about sitting).

[IgiTang]

Reading posts, there seems to be one common denominator, Cammellari. For his price tag, floating 2nd/3rd line duties is unacceptable. He needs to be moved with Cervenka and Hudler coming in. Regardless of how well they play. Cammi is not getting it done and earns too much.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Reading posts, there seems to be one common denominator, Cammellari. For his price tag, floating 2nd/3rd line duties is unacceptable. He needs to be moved with Cervenka and Hudler coming in. Regardless of how well they play. Cammi is not getting it done and earns too much.

At least he's not Bourque!

[SuperMatt18]

Cammy was great for us last offseason, I contribute his struggles to him just looking out of shape. Don' think he was ready for the season to start, and for a guy who is small and not physical not having your legs means you are going to look terrible.

[JazzyFlame]

holy implosion...Cammi's a great player atleast give it 5-games????

[moncton golden flames]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Reading posts, there seems to be one common denominator, Cammellari. For his price tag, floating 2nd/3rd line duties is unacceptable. He needs to be moved with Cervenka and Hudler coming in. Regardless of how well they play. Cammi is not getting it done and earns too much.

that's why i believe he needs to play as the top line centre. if you want to try to get the most out of him, you need to put him in a position to succeed.

[FanIn80]

I popped into this thread thinking it would be about Cervenka's injury status, and I'm greeted with "trade Glencross for picks" and "get rid of Cammy?" I realize I mistakenly opened this thread on the last page instead of the first, but wtf?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I popped into this thread thinking it would be about Cervenka's injury status, and I'm greeted with "trade Glencross for picks" and "get rid of Cammy?" I realize I mistakenly opened this thread on the last page instead of the first, but wtf?

We miss the lockout. #### Donald Fehr. Gary Bettman has bad skin.

[canflip_101]

sven-cervenka-hudler

[trumpethead]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Cammy was great for us last offseason, I contribute his struggles to him just looking out of shape. Don' think he was ready for the season to start, and for a guy who is small and not physical not having your legs means you are going to look terrible.

I scored as many goals as Cammy did last offseason.

[orr444]

Cervenka and hudler are skating with the hitmen today.

[MissTeeks]

Calgary Flames ‏@NHLFlames

Roman Cervenka and Jiri Hudler will be at the Dome tomorrow and will speak to the media then. Watch for coverage on http://CalgaryFlames.com !

[vektor]

I really hope Cervenka is capable of playing on our top line, I really do. There is an element of chance that we wind up being good by overwhelming the opposition with so many offensive threats that our horrific defense doesn't matter. A large portion of that hinges on Cervenka. The season pretty much rides on Cervenka and Backlund playing better than they ever have, without them we are screwed.

I know everyone is jumping ship but I will reserve judgement until mid-season when we see if these guys can gel together, we've seen flashes of brilliance from the Flames, hopefully Cervenka can come in and add something positive. We need a few things to go right for us. Hopefully Hartley figures this out sooner as opposed to later. I know nothing about Roman but I hope he has the fire in his eyes that makes him get pissed, we need someone with that. The only guy that plays with that passion now is Glencross, he seems to be the only high end guy we have that takes losses personally, hopefully Cervenka can bring that as well.

[MonsieurFish]

So how will our roster change with Cervenka and Hudler being able to play next game? Horak was sent down yesterday.... is Baertschi next, purely because he doesn't have to go through waivers?

Edit: maybe I am mistaken and Horak was sent down for Cervenka? Assumed that was for Hudler, but I think he was already on the team.

[AltaGuy]

One good thing is that our next game is against the midgets to the North of us, so we can ice an all-midget lineup and forego any kind of worries about size.

On the downside, icing an all-midget lineup could lead to us losing the game 10-8.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by MonsieurFish

So how will our roster change with Cervenka and Hudler being able to play next game? Horak was sent down yesterday.... is Baertschi next, purely because he doesn't have to go through waivers?

that is my fear that Sven goes down and the staff do not fully realize what he brings to the team. Sending him down will do no good. If anything Comeau should be put on waivers and he would clear and if he doesn't so what the Flames picked him up on waivers. Free up another roster spot.

Best guess is Cervenka does not play until after the Avs game but then again it is a long lay off until that game the 31st so maybe he will be up to speed to Hartley's satisfaction by then.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think too many people are expecting too much of the Flames too soon. New coach, new system, 1 brand new top 4 d-man who is also #1 on the PP, and 3 new players in the top 9. That is a lot of change.

Lines are not set yet. Chemistry hasn't evolved yet. Players like Tanguay playing out of position. They are looking better every game - haven't put in a complete game yet, and they sometimes look 'scrambly' out there.. but I do think they are improving. We also haven't seen what the 'real team' looks like yet with Cervenka and Hudler.

Give it until game 10. See where they are in the standings, and how they are performing on the ice before begging to tear it down, or excessively praising them. This is a shortened season, and with all the moves without the benefit of a preseason, it is not difficult at least to give them the benefit of the doubt for the first few games. I will be happy if they are 500 at the 10 game mark, but trending upward. Anything past that, and it may be too late to wish for the playoffs.

At the very least, I am happy to see a much more entertaining product on the ice. I was missing an offensive team for a long time now.

With regards to Cervenka and Hudler, what do you guys think? Will they start together, or be put on separate lines? They haven't developed any chemistry with anyone on the team, and not sure if they are up to speed on the system either. Putting them on different lines might make those other lines shaky, or perhaps get them up to speed faster. What do you guys think?

I am hoping Hartley puts Cammy-Cervenka-Hudler as a line. Cammy hasn't shown any chemistry with anyone, so why not try him with two new faces?

[FakenHaken]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think too many people are expecting too much of the Flames too soon. New coach, new system, 1 brand new top 4 d-man who is also #1 on the PP, and 3 new players in the top 9. That is a lot of change.

Lines are not set yet. Chemistry hasn't evolved yet. Players like Tanguay playing out of position. They are looking better every game - haven't put in a complete game yet, and they sometimes look 'scrambly' out there.. but I do think they are improving. We also haven't seen what the 'real team' looks like yet with Cervenka and Hudler.

Give it until game 10. See where they are in the standings, and how they are performing on the ice before begging to tear it down, or excessively praising them. This is a shortened season, and with all the moves without the benefit of a preseason, it is not difficult at least to give them the benefit of the doubt for the first few games. I will be happy if they are 500 at the 10 game mark, but trending upward. Anything past that, and it may be too late to wish for the playoffs.

At the very least, I am happy to see a much more entertaining product on the ice. I was missing an offensive team for a long time now.

With regards to Cervenka and Hudler, what do you guys think? Will they start together, or be put on separate lines? They haven't developed any chemistry with anyone on the team, and not sure if they are up to speed on the system either. Putting them on different lines might make those other lines shaky, or perhaps get them up to speed faster. What do you guys think?

I am hoping Hartley puts Cammy-Cervenka-Hudler as a line. Cammy hasn't shown any chemistry with anyone, so why not try him with two new faces?

Agree 99% with everything except I'd rather see Bart with Cervenka and Hudler. Although Cervenka is a rookie he has a veteran presence with KHL experience. Hudler another veteran. All have skill and some speed. Before we send Bart to the 4th line in Hartley's words lets let Sven be Sven.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think too many people are expecting too much of the Flames too soon. New coach, new system, 1 brand new top 4 d-man who is also #1 on the PP, and 3 new players in the top 9. That is a lot of change.

Lines are not set yet. Chemistry hasn't evolved yet. Players like Tanguay playing out of position. They are looking better every game - haven't put in a complete game yet, and they sometimes look 'scrambly' out there.. but I do think they are improving. We also haven't seen what the 'real team' looks like yet with Cervenka and Hudler.

Give it until game 10. See where they are in the standings, and how they are performing on the ice before begging to tear it down, or excessively praising them. This is a shortened season, and with all the moves without the benefit of a preseason, it is not difficult at least to give them the benefit of the doubt for the first few games. I will be happy if they are 500 at the 10 game mark, but trending upward. Anything past that, and it may be too late to wish for the playoffs.

At the very least, I am happy to see a much more entertaining product on the ice. I was missing an offensive team for a long time now.

With regards to Cervenka and Hudler, what do you guys think? Will they start together, or be put on separate lines? They haven't developed any chemistry with anyone on the team, and not sure if they are up to speed on the system either. Putting them on different lines might make those other lines shaky, or perhaps get them up to speed faster. What do you guys think?

I am hoping Hartley puts Cammy-Cervenka-Hudler as a line. Cammy hasn't shown any chemistry with anyone, so why not try him with two new faces?

I think this is a good assessment. It will be interesting to see a few new players injected into our top 6. I'm not expecting Cervenka to be an all-star right off the bat. I am sure getting used to playing in north america might take a bit and I am ok with that.

So far, this hockey is much more exciting then previous years, mainly because it is so random. Watching Tanguay shootting on a 2 v 1 instead of passing, Jaybo shooting any time, Iggy killing penalties, you name it. So far I likey!

After 10 games though if we aren't improving or clicking then I will be worried.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by 868904

If it were a true meritocracy, Cammy and Iggy would probably sit for Hudler and Cervenka as they have been the two worst forwards.

Bouwmeester would also sit for Smith.

All 3 have a chance to redeem themselves tonight (not that they really have to worry about sitting).

Iggy hasn't been one of the worst forwards...long term you need these guys they have to get into game shape

there is no team in the NHL that picks their lineup based on the last game or so. Jaybo had a great game yesterday anyway