Pet Peeves

[Bill Bumface]

Originally posted by StoneCole+May 18 2005, 10:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (StoneCole @ May 18 2005, 10:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Your Mother's deaf.

My mother's dead you idiot [/b][/quote]
I guess that's why she didn't move around too much...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Pet peave, and this happesn from time to time. When a e-mail I send doesn't get reveived on the other end or vice versa.

This is always a problem with my work e-mail, atleast twice a week I get a call telling me that a person hasn't received the e-mail they were expecting from me.

Unreliable e-mail - huge pet peave.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally posted by hulkrogan+May 18 2005, 04:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hulkrogan @ May 18 2005, 04:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

If he had the class to read his personal messages I would be happy to keep it off the forum. But he doesn't.

If you want to see our disagreements moved to PM, please tell him so. It doesn't appear he has the maturity to go that route though.

So you take the highroad by placing random insults in unrelated threads [/b][/quote]
Unrelated? This thread is about pet peeves. MMF has turned himself into one for me. Therefore my post was completely on topic.

Now if you want to talk about random replies in unrelated threads you only have to go look through MMF's post history in the past while to see his habit of following me around in threads. The System of a Down thread being a prime example.

Looks like I've got me a thread stalker. I have no doubt it would annoy you too. I would prefer to keep it to PM's and have tried to recently but it would appear MMF would rather keep it on the board and in public.

[Buff]

'Your mom' The good old your momma insults p*ss me off to no end. They are ridiculously immature and my co-worker continually uses them. He has no idea how lame he sounds when he does it.

[Frank the Tank]

One of my biggest is the whole "bleeding heart" sector of society. I just can't stand it. "Oh the poor homeless people - give them more money", "OH the poor welfare people - give them more money", please, for the love of all that is sacred SHUT UP. You know who gets to give them more and more money for doing nothing to contribute to society? Me. Joe (or Frank) middle class. I worked my ass off, put myself through University, paid off my STUDENT LOANS, bought a house, pay property tax and continually better myself and my family day after day yet I am continually punished for doing so. Enough! Instead of money, send them U-hauls. To Greenland.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank@May 19 2005, 05:19 PM
One of my biggest is the whole "bleeding heart" sector of society. I just can't stand it. "Oh the poor homeless people - give them more money", "OH the poor welfare people - give them more money", please, for the love of all that is sacred SHUT UP. You know who gets to give them more and more money for doing nothing to contribute to society? Me. Joe (or Frank) middle class. I worked my ass off, put myself through University, paid off my STUDENT LOANS, bought a house, pay property tax and continually better myself and my family day after day yet I am continually punished for doing so. Enough! Instead of money, send them U-hauls. To Greenland.

Bizarre. Do you have a pretty good standard of living? Do you get all your needs looked after and a few perks on top of that? Shouldn't that be enough?

Or must we always have more money. Must we hoard and clutch at as much as we can get, especially at the expense of others who can't look after themselves as well as we can? Does the person with most money/toys at the end win? Does having $200 more a month make you a much happier and fulfilled person or is about more about relationships and how you spend your time?

Whether you like it or not they are people who are less equipped to do the things you're so proud of. There are people with mental problems, with emotional problems, people who grew up in very bad situations. Who's to say you wouldn't be walking the streets if you had grown up in a trailer park in an abusive situation where drugs were the norm and you had no positive examples to look up to? I don't think you can say that.

Pretty hard to judge some people until you've walked in their shoes or grown up in the environment they did. Our environment, friends and family have a huge effect on the type of person we grow up to be. Don't make the mistake of assuming everybody has the tools to be a successful person, because not all people do in our current society.

Your post strikes me as very selfish. I know it's hard sometimes to identify with or empathize with people we don't understand but it doesn't appear like you're making much of an effort. Maybe go talk to some kids that live in a trailer park with their drugged up single abusive parent and see if they are emotionally and mentally healthy and stable enough to be successful. Maybe try visiting a psych ward or talk to some people that have problems functioning.

[Flames89]

Originally posted by Flames Draft Watcher@May 19 2005, 01:36 PM
Your post strikes me as very selfish. I know it's hard sometimes to identify with or empathize with people we don't understand but it doesn't appear like you're making much of an effort. ... blah, blah, blah ...

Would you mind crawling down from your high-horse?!

This is a pet-peeve thread - not an "Excuse me, but I will judge you all for you are all morally reprehensible" thread.

My pet-peeve: those that can not take something at face value ...

Now go back to the Belinda thread where you can attack internet messageboard posters for typing rude comments about a politician (the nerve!)



Edited to spell "where" correctly, for I fear the spelling backlash amongst those who can not see the forest for the trees

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by Flames Draft Watcher+May 19 2005, 12:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flames Draft Watcher @ May 19 2005, 12:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Frank the Tank@May 19 2005, 05:19 PM
One of my biggest is the whole "bleeding heart" sector of society. I just can't stand it. "Oh the poor homeless people - give them more money", "OH the poor welfare people - give them more money", please, for the love of all that is sacred SHUT UP. You know who gets to give them more and more money for doing nothing to contribute to society? Me. Joe (or Frank) middle class. I worked my ass off, put myself through University, paid off my STUDENT LOANS, bought a house, pay property tax and continually better myself and my family day after day yet I am continually punished for doing so. Enough! Instead of money, send them U-hauls. To Greenland.

Bizarre. Do you have a pretty good standard of living? Do you get all your needs looked after and a few perks on top of that? Shouldn't that be enough?

Or must we always have more money. Must we hoard and clutch at as much as we can get, especially at the expense of others who can't look after themselves as well as we can? Does the person with most money/toys at the end win? Does having $200 more a month make you a much happier and fulfilled person or is about more about relationships and how you spend your time?

Whether you like it or not they are people who are less equipped to do the things you're so proud of. There are people with mental problems, with emotional problems, people who grew up in very bad situations. Who's to say you wouldn't be walking the streets if you had grown up in a trailer park in an abusive situation where drugs were the norm and you had no positive examples to look up to? I don't think you can say that.

Pretty hard to judge some people until you've walked in their shoes or grown up in the environment they did. Our environment, friends and family have a huge effect on the type of person we grow up to be. Don't make the mistake of assuming everybody has the tools to be a successful person, because not all people do in our current society.

Your post strikes me as very selfish. I know it's hard sometimes to identify with or empathize with people we don't understand but it doesn't appear like you're making much of an effort. Maybe go talk to some kids that live in a trailer park with their drugged up single abusive parent and see if they are emotionally and mentally healthy and stable enough to be successful. Maybe try visiting a psych ward or talk to some people that have problems functioning. [/b][/quote]
Wow, thanks for that. It is my opinion, that most people on welfare have the ability to work but choose not to because we continue to spoon feed them through free cash and programs. Where is my free cash? Where is my tax break? I work hard, yet I am punished by having to pay more and more every year to people who choose not to contribute.

Remember, before you lecture me again, that this is MY opinion. I have very very harsh opinions on a lot of things, this is one of them.

I don't need to be called selfish and be accused of hoarding money. My house is worth $140,000 (in Ontario, not insane AB prices), I could afford a much bigger house but I choose not to. Is that selfish? I drive a '98 Ford Contour and an '01 Focus Wagon. Again, I could afford much nicer cars, but I choose not to. Again, am I selfish?

You challenge my views by saying if I grew up in certain situations i would be on welfare. Pretty big assumption. How do you know that I didn't grow up in a trailler park? And to answer your question, if I did grow up there surrounded by drugs, I'd be in the same position I am right now. Why? Because I have AMBITION and a DESIRE to make society better. Remember, if you can make broad assumptions, so can I.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by Flames89+May 19 2005, 12:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flames89 @ May 19 2005, 12:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Flames Draft Watcher@May 19 2005, 01:36 PM
Your post strikes me as very selfish. I know it's hard sometimes to identify with or empathize with people we don't understand but it doesn't appear like you're making much of an effort. ... blah, blah, blah ...

Would you mind crawling down from your high-horse?!

This is a pet-peeve thread - not an "Excuse me, but I will judge you all for you are all morally reprehensible" thread.

My pet-peeve: those that can not take something at face value ...

Now go back to the Belinda thread where you can attack internet messageboard posters for typing rude comments about a politician (the nerve!)



Edited to spell "where" correctly, for I fear the spelling backlash amongst those who can not see the forest for the trees [/b][/quote]
Thanks for the defence Flames89!

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Another Pet Peeve. Credit Card holders for wallets, those clear plastic dealies you put in them so you can flip through your cards. Why don't they make these out of a tougher material than Saran Wrap? I have to buy new ones every 6 months.

[jam26]

Originally posted by Bring_Back_Shantz@May 12 2005, 04:04 PM

Examples.

"Should of" or "Could of" instead of "Should have"
Mixing up They're Their and There
They're = They are
Their = posessive
There = indicating a place

I will add to that: "Are" instead of "Our"

[Flames89]

Thursdays before long weekends!

[Five-hole]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank@May 19 2005, 10:19 AM
One of my biggest is the whole "bleeding heart" sector of society. I just can't stand it. "Oh the poor homeless people - give them more money", "OH the poor welfare people - give them more money", please, for the love of all that is sacred SHUT UP. You know who gets to give them more and more money for doing nothing to contribute to society? Me. Joe (or Frank) middle class. I worked my ass off, put myself through University, paid off my STUDENT LOANS, bought a house, pay property tax and continually better myself and my family day after day yet I am continually punished for doing so. Enough! Instead of money, send them U-hauls. To Greenland.

Man, where's the rage for the banks taking your money on mortgages and loans? To me that seems pretty criminal because it benefits nobody but the stockholders and executives of said bank.

"I've got me a mortgage and I'm sick and tired of the government taking my money! I need it to pay the bank for no discernable benefit to my person!"

Hypocrite.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank@May 19 2005, 06:21 PM
I don't need to be called selfish and be accused of hoarding money. My house is worth $140,000 (in Ontario, not insane AB prices), I could afford a much bigger house but I choose not to. Is that selfish? I drive a '98 Ford Contour and an '01 Focus Wagon. Again, I could afford much nicer cars, but I choose not to. Again, am I selfish?

You challenge my views by saying if I grew up in certain situations i would be on welfare. Pretty big assumption. How do you know that I didn't grow up in a trailler park? And to answer your question, if I did grow up there surrounded by drugs, I'd be in the same position I am right now. Why? Because I have AMBITION and a DESIRE to make society better. Remember, if you can make broad assumptions, so can I.

What does your choice of house or car have to do with being selfish? That has to do with where you've chosen to spend your money.

Are you selfish? I'd say that suggesting we should cut people off welfare and ship them elsewhere so that you can make some more money is indeed selfish. That's my harsh opinion on that subject. And despite your opinion that "most" people on welfare could be successful, you HAVE to admit that there are people out there who have mental disabilities and emotional problems that prevent them being successful. If you can't admit that then you really are clueless about a whole subset of society.

You have ambition and desire in your current life and that's based on what you were taught, the examples people in your life have set for you, the opportunities available to you. If you grew up in a hopeless situation there's no guarantee you would have the same ambition and desire and to assume you would is folly.

I wasn't assuming that if you grew up in a trailer park you would be on welfare. I was trying to point out that your life could have been much different and that in turn would have affected your emotional stability, your mental stability, your outlook and attitudes on life. Obviously you've missed the point. You seem to believe that you'd be the same person no matter what situation you grew up in. I think that's a ridiculous assumption.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by Five-hole+May 19 2005, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Five-hole @ May 19 2005, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Frank the Tank@May 19 2005, 10:19 AM
One of my biggest is the whole "bleeding heart" sector of society. I just can't stand it. "Oh the poor homeless people - give them more money", "OH the poor welfare people - give them more money", please, for the love of all that is sacred SHUT UP. You know who gets to give them more and more money for doing nothing to contribute to society? Me. Joe (or Frank) middle class. I worked my ass off, put myself through University, paid off my STUDENT LOANS, bought a house, pay property tax and continually better myself and my family day after day yet I am continually punished for doing so. Enough! Instead of money, send them U-hauls. To Greenland.

Man, where's the rage for the banks taking your money on mortgages and loans? To me that seems pretty criminal because it benefits nobody but the stockholders and executives of said bank.

"I've got me a mortgage and I'm sick and tired of the government taking my money! I need it to pay the bank for no discernable benefit to my person!"

Hypocrite. [/b][/quote]
How am I a hypocrite? I contribute, people who milk the system do not. I am not bitching about my mortgage one bit. I am happy to pay it every two weeks. Why? Because when I am done, I will own a home.

Don't tax me (the upper-middle class) to the balls when every month when the welfare cheques go out, the first thing is a cab ride to the beer store and a cab ride home.

I have no time for prople who don't contribute to society because in the end, the hard-working people in this world suffer because of them.

I suggest you read some Ayn Rand before you start flinging insults around.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Holy crap, it's a pet peave thread, its not like he said "Pet Peave: Asians"

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by Flames Draft Watcher+May 19 2005, 02:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flames Draft Watcher @ May 19 2005, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Frank the Tank@May 19 2005, 06:21 PM
I don't need to be called selfish and be accused of hoarding money. My house is worth $140,000 (in Ontario, not insane AB prices), I could afford a much bigger house but I choose not to. Is that selfish? I drive a '98 Ford Contour and an '01 Focus Wagon. Again, I could afford much nicer cars, but I choose not to. Again, am I selfish?

You challenge my views by saying if I grew up in certain situations i would be on welfare. Pretty big assumption. How do you know that I didn't grow up in a trailler park? And to answer your question, if I did grow up there surrounded by drugs, I'd be in the same position I am right now. Why? Because I have AMBITION and a DESIRE to make society better. Remember, if you can make broad assumptions, so can I.

What does your choice of house or car have to do with being selfish? That has to do with where you've chosen to spend your money.

Are you selfish? I'd say that suggesting we should cut people off welfare and ship them elsewhere so that you can make some more money is indeed selfish. That's my harsh opinion on that subject. And despite your opinion that "most" people on welfare could be successful, you HAVE to admit that there are people out there who have mental disabilities and emotional problems that prevent them being successful. If you can't admit that then you really are clueless about a whole subset of society.

You have ambition and desire in your current life and that's based on what you were taught, the examples people in your life have set for you, the opportunities available to you. If you grew up in a hopeless situation there's no guarantee you would have the same ambition and desire and to assume you would is folly.

I wasn't assuming that if you grew up in a trailer park you would be on welfare. I was trying to point out that your life could have been much different and that in turn would have affected your emotional stability, your mental stability, your outlook and attitudes on life. Obviously you've missed the point. You seem to believe that you'd be the same person no matter what situation you grew up in. I think that's a ridiculous assumption. [/b][/quote]
Nowhere have I said that I wanted more money. What do I want? A reasonable tax rate and my hard earned tax money to go to something better than people who sit on their asses. Thats all. You are making very broad sweeping generalizations about me as a PERSON.

I don't doubt that there are some mentally ill people who need support. Don't insult me by saying I don't realize that, I haven't insulted you.

As much as you beleive I wouldn't make it out of the trailer park, I beleive I would. Guess we'll have to leave it at that.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally posted by Flames89@May 19 2005, 05:49 PM
Would you mind crawling down from your high-horse?!

This is a pet-peeve thread - not an "Excuse me, but I will judge you all for you are all morally reprehensible" thread.

Being on a "high-horse" suggest that I think I'm perfect. That's not the case. I know I have faults and I would have no problem talking about them.

We judge each other all the time. This is a forum. You put your thoughts out there and then people read it and judge it. If someone doesn't want to come across as selfish they don't have to suggest cutting off welfare and shipping those people elsewhere so that they can make a little more money. I think it's a pretty easy judgement to make, one I think most of us would make. I'm not sure why you're so offended. If I said I hate blacks then you'd judge me a racist. If I suggest mentally disabled people should be shipped out of here so I don't have help them financially so that they can have a decent living then you'd judge me to be selfish.

We should hold each other to high standards IMO. It's not the easy way out but I think it helps us grow. If I say something selfish or cruel or what have you then society should let me know that's not the ideal. We do it when we raise children, are adults exempt from being held to a high standard? Should we expect everybody else to only look after their own self interest? Do we not have any values at all?

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm@May 19 2005, 02:30 PM
Holy crap, it's a pet peave thread, its not like he said "Pet Peave: Asians"

HA! That really made me laugh for some reason.

New topic: "Inappropriate Pet Peeves"

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by Flames Draft Watcher+May 19 2005, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flames Draft Watcher @ May 19 2005, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Flames89@May 19 2005, 05:49 PM
Would you mind crawling down from your high-horse?!

This is a pet-peeve thread - not an "Excuse me, but I will judge you all for you are all morally reprehensible" thread.

Being on a "high-horse" suggest that I think I'm perfect. That's not the case. I know I have faults and I would have no problem talking about them.

We judge each other all the time. This is a forum. You put your thoughts out there and then people read it and judge it. If someone doesn't want to come across as selfish they don't have to suggest cutting off welfare and shipping those people elsewhere so that they can make a little more money. I think it's a pretty easy judgement to make, one I think most of us would make. I'm not sure why you're so offended. If I said I hate blacks then you'd judge me a racist. If I suggest mentally disabled people should be shipped out of here so I don't have help them financially so that they can have a decent living then you'd judge me to be selfish.

We should hold each other to high standards IMO. It's not the easy way out but I think it helps us grow. If I say something selfish or cruel or what have you then society should let me know that's not the ideal. We do it when we raise children, are adults exempt from being held to a high standard? Should we expect everybody else to only look after their own self interest? Do we not have any values at all? [/b][/quote]
Again, at no time did I say I wanted to make more money. Hence my revelation of the price of my house and the cars I own.

Money is very far down the list for me.