LMAO Paladin Security.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by MacFlame

No, people like you should be reported, and you were reported...correctly and justifiably so...yet you complained about it...like you are entitled to drive like a dick.

I think one day you'll come around to my view of things...give it a few years.

I was reported? when was this? did you report me to the cyber police?

Yeah, I'll probably come around to your side, but until then I'll still be driving like an ####### behind slow pokes in the left lane.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

never mind my user name, its there for those of you who are out of argument and need to resort to my user name as their only defense.

that said, i am quite clear on how many people use the left lane, doesnt make them correct though.

left lane is the speed limit lane
right lane is the speed limit and slower lane

you seem to believe

left lane is the speeding lane
right lane is for everyone else to GTFO of the way of the good drivers.

So we agree then? left lane might not be intended for speeding, but it is used for speeding can you at least admit to that? If so then I have no clue what you're arguing...the semantics of what the left lane is actually meant for?

[jayswin]

Jesus, my gears are really being grond here reading about DBLLD's (######bag left lane drivers).

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by puckluck

I was reported? when was this? did you report me to the cyber police?

Yeah, I'll probably come around to your side, but until then I'll still be driving like an ####### behind slow pokes in the left lane.

and to be clear, i dont get out of your way and move to the right out of some brotherhood of understanding, i move out of the way and let you pass out of pure selfishness. if you are going to kill someone with your driving antics, i would rather it not be me, my wife or my family.

ideally, you would just slow down and drive safe out of respect for your fellow citizens, but since you wont, i gladly move out of the way and let you get as far away as possible.

dont mistake that for agreeing you are right.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by puckluck

So we agree then? left lane might not be intended for speeding, but it is used for speeding can you at least admit to that? If so then I have no clue what you're arguing...the semantics of what the left lane is actually meant for?

yes, as$hats speed in many lanes, especially the left, out of some misguided notion they are "allowed" to because its the fast lane.

glad you have come around and realize you are in the wrong when you do it. can you please now stop referring to it as the fast lane since you now agree that it in fact, is not.

[MacFlame]

Originally Posted by puckluck

I never said I wasn't the problem and if an accident happened I would most likely be 100% at fault. Still makes the left lane speed limit drivers real dicks.

Now you're just being ridiculous...

I think maybe some of these comments are getting through to you and now you're having a pretty hard time justifying your practices....

Good.

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by Jake

I think flashing your high beams behind someone on a highway is a stupid thing to do.

Flash to pass is a standard behaviour in other countries. You flash to inform the other driver of your intentions, just like using a turn indicator.

If it's 'blinding' you then you should learn how to use your mirrors properly, or not drive at night.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by puckluck

I was reported? when was this? did you report me to the cyber police?

Yeah, I'll probably come around to your side, but until then I'll still be driving like an ####### behind slow pokes in the left lane.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

and to be clear, i dont get out of your way and move to the right out of some brotherhood of understanding, i move out of the way and let you pass out of pure selfishness. if you are going to kill someone with your driving antics, i would rather it not be me, my wife or my family.

ideally, you would just slow down and drive safe out of respect for your fellow citizens, but since you wont, i gladly move out of the way and let you get as far away as possible.

dont mistake that for agreeing you are right.

I don't expect you to think I'm right because legally I'm not and I know I'm not.

But for the unwritten rules of the roads I am 100% right and you're 100% wrong.

[MacFlame]

Originally Posted by puckluck

I was reported? when was this? did you report me to the cyber police?

Yeah, I'll probably come around to your side, but until then I'll still be driving like an ####### behind slow pokes in the left lane.

oopes..sorry, that was the op...I'm getting old.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by puckluck

I don't expect you to think I'm right because legally I'm not and I know I'm not.

But for the unwritten rules of the roads I am 100% right and you're 100% wrong.

well if you say so!

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Jesus, my gears are really being grond here reading about DBLLD's (######bag left lane drivers).

Yes, the roads are infested with Left Lane Bandits and full fledged members of The Nanny State.


...but hey, they are doing for our own good because they know better than we do....as they drive 10 km under the limit in the passing lane with all season tires in the middle of winter without scraping their windows.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by MacFlame

oopes..sorry, that was the op...I'm getting old.

Damn senior citizens! explains everything!

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by -TC-

Yes, the roads are infested with Left Lane Bandits and full fledged members of The Nanny State.


...but hey, they are doing for our own good because they know better than we do....as they drive 10 km under the limit in the passing lane with all season tires in the middle of winter without scraping their windows.

can you acknowledge that is not at all what I am suggesting?

no where did i say, i will drive in the left lane at the posted speed whether you like it or not.

i endorse moving out of the way of faster moving traffic, but again for completly different reasons. its not the unofficial rules of the road that i move over for, its for my own safety.

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

never mind my user name, its there for those of you who are out of argument and need to resort to my user name as their only defense. you fell right into my trap ;-)

that said, i am quite clear on how many people use the left lane, doesnt make them correct though.

left lane is the speed limit lane
right lane is the speed limit and slower lane

you seem to believe

left lane is the speeding lane
right lane is for everyone else to GTFO of the way of the good drivers.

the left lane is for passing, the speed limit is not relevant bacause you should not be driving in the left lane.

That's what those signs mean when they say "Keep Right Except to Pass" or "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by -TC-

the left lane is for passing, the speed limit is not relevant bacause you should not be driving in the left lane.

That's what those signs mean when they say "Keep Right Except to Pass" or "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

so you are saying all cars should be in the right lane until they want to pass?

and since the only cars you need to pass, if everyone is going the speed limit in the right lane, are those cars going slower, when would you ever need to exceed the posted limit, even to pass?

sorry, you have it backwards. both lanes are for driving the speed limit, but if you need to go slow (use right) and if you need to pass those slower cars, because you are driving the posted limit in the right lane, then you should use the left lane (at the posted speed) to do so.

show me ONE citation where it is ok legally to go over the posted limit, in any lane for any reason?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

so you are saying all cars should be in the right lane until they want to pass?

If the sign says "keep right except to pass" than you shouldn't be in the left lane unless you're passing, and if it says "slower traffic keep right", then you can be in the left lane, but only until someone behind you is going faster, than you're supposed to move over.

[Bindair Dundat]

Originally Posted by -TC-

the left lane is for passing, the speed limit is not relevant bacause you should not be driving in the left lane.

That's what those signs mean when they say "Keep Right Except to Pass" or "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

Exactly what I said upthread...Everyone belongs in the right lane, unless they are overtaking someone.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

I think there was a post before that said something about the manufacturer installed the lights for this purpose? No they are intalled so that you can see down a dark road when no other cars are around. They are not intended as a device to say get out of the way.

Exactly. All of this arguing over what they are for is really non-sense. The manufacturer's official statement will be that they are simply to illuminate dark roads better. The on/off switch is not made to "flash drivers". As I said earlier, this is illegal in Ontario (where many of Canada's cars are made), so of course the manufacturer cannot say they made them for that purpose. What they are for vs. what people actually do with them are two completely different things.

Does anyone have a good reason to say that high-beam flashing is legal though? The law says you must dim your high beams within a certain range of another car. Why wouldn't this omit flashing them? In my experience, the law is absolute, so telling a judge "I just turned them on for a second" is IMO not a very convincing argument to get a ticket reduced. You still turned them on within range of another car.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by -TC-

Flash to pass is a standard behaviour in other countries. You flash to inform the other driver of your intentions, just like using a turn indicator.

If it's 'blinding' you then you should learn how to use your mirrors properly, or not drive at night.

Good for those other countries, that is not a good argument to support it. It's also illegal in several US states and Ontario. I'll try to teach my mirrors to stop reflecting light.