2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Two Fivenagame]

Amazing that this team only had 3 picks in last year's draft.
They traded away all that draft capital to support a "window of contention".

Does management know what a contender looks like? I'm not so sure they do.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Britflamesfan

The management of this team has been awful for as long as I have supported it 1991. Truly dreadful and here we have yet another example of it, they have waited far to long (last day for gods sake) to tell the rest of the league they have some players to sell. The rest of the league has been at it for 2 weeks now and understandably those who were prepared to move 1st round picks have done their work. We miss again in a year when there are loads of good players at the draft. Just so poor.

Interestingly, Friedman is on the radio here in Toronto right now. When discussing the flames, he stated that the flames have been ‘surprised’ by this ‘mystery’ season, and then he used words like ‘unprepared’ for this deadline period.

Feels like the flames have waited until the final game before the deadline hoping that the flames find some magical eureka moment where the team finally clicks.

[OutOfTheCube]

Mentions Buffalo, Hanifin would be a great fit on the Sabres but I wouldn’t want them to offload this year’s first… we have three second round picks in this draft though

[Britflamesfan]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Interestingly, Friedman is on the radio here in Toronto right now. When discussing the flames, he stated that the flames have been ‘surprised’ by this ‘mystery’ season, and then he used words like ‘unprepared’ for this deadline period.

Feels like the flames have waited until the final game before the deadline hoping that the flames find some magical eureka moment where the team finally clicks.

This just annoys me even more, most people on this site were able to look at the team a week ago and understand that there was very little chance of making the playoffs and even if they did they were once again first round fodder. How is it these highly paid all seeing all dancing management bods are caught out and are unprepared. Asleep at the wheel yet again. Total clear out at the top end and time to move lots of overpaid vets who are content to take the money and not put in the effort.

[Mindtravellee]

Do we start assuming Kylington might not come back next year?

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Interestingly, Friedman is on the radio here in Toronto right now. When discussing the flames, he stated that the flames have been ‘surprised’ by this ‘mystery’ season, and then he used words like ‘unprepared’ for this deadline period.

Feels like the flames have waited until the final game before the deadline hoping that the flames find some magical eureka moment where the team finally clicks.

Yeah, I'm at the point where I'm pretty much done with Tre, the owners and Darryl

[Flamesfan05]

Kylington was terrible toward the end of last year

Even if he comes back, he’ll be eating popcorn after sitting out that long

I would not count him as a savior

[Hockey_Ninja]

Olli is definitely not gonna be a savior. He definitely would help with his speed and puck carrying on the blueline though. But it's too late at this point. The guy is likely not even close to being in game shape

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by pgsieve

What I don’t understand is if we are not buying or selling… why aren’t we supporting 1 year broker deals for teams to use 2.5-5.9 M in cap hit we have

I don’t think it’s that Tre hasn’t thought of that.

I’m guessing it could be the financial cost? Ownership spends to the cap, but maybe there are some transactions that are out of bounds?

(Total and complete speculation.)

[keenan87]

But I thought Treliving the wizard is on everything and has a finger on the pulse of the league?!? How did he manage to misjudge the market so bad - so shocked with your team that you don't recognize when the rest of the league is busy making moves. Joke of a GM.

[JohnnyB]

I feel like we just haven't heard much from Treliving all season. He made his big moves in the summer, but hasn't had much engagement with media and the fans since. Is he just a lame duck gm biding time on his way out the door and leaving it all for the next guy?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Interestingly, Friedman is on the radio here in Toronto right now. When discussing the flames, he stated that the flames have been ‘surprised’ by this ‘mystery’ season, and then he used words like ‘unprepared’ for this deadline period.

Feels like the flames have waited until the final game before the deadline hoping that the flames find some magical eureka moment where the team finally clicks.

Worst goaltending in the league since the all star break and the Flames were unprepared for the deadline? I don't think Treliving's that out of touch but the reality is that this organization has been one of the worst for decades when it comes to being proactive with assets. They always end up having their hand forced by situations rather than dealing with them before things come to a head. This trade deadline is no different. Also would not be shocked if the Flames go into next season with most of their pending UFA's on the roster and unsigned. It's just what the Flames do.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Worst goaltending in the league since the all star break and the Flames were unprepared for the deadline? I don't think Treliving's that naive but the reality is that this organization has been one of the worst for decades when it comes to being proactive. They always end up having their hand forced by situations rather than dealing with them before things come to a head. This trade deadline is no different. Also would not be shocked if the Flames go into next season with most of their pending UFA's on the roster and unsigned. It's just what the Flames do.

Then, they will be on the bubble again and trade no one because they might make the playoffs.. leading to many of those guys leaving for free.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Treliving and company have bungled this deadline so badly they should all be walked out the door. There is still time to make some deals and try to grab some draft capital and kick start a retooling. I would suggest that Lewis, Lucic, Toffoli, Backlund, Tanev, and possibly Hanifin be used to grab as many picks in the upcoming draft as possible and build some depth that can step in over the next few years. Go into net year with the following lineup with the understanding they are not going to immediately contend, but you're building toward something. This lineup could surprise.

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Coronato
Dube-Kadri-Mangipane
Pelletier-Zary-Coleman
Ruzicka-Zahorna-Duehr

Hanifin-Andersson
Weegar-Kylington
Gilbert-Zadorov
Stone

Markstrom
Vlader

Farm players that you hope can step in and challenge for positions include Jones, Schwindt, Poirier, Solovyov, Kuznetsov, and Wolf. The future is in the draft picks generated from the trades of the assets identified. I don't think things are as bleak as they possibly look and feel right now. The right moves just have to be made and the team can't be afriad to make them.

[SuperMatt18]

The problem with the org remains that getting into the playoffs remains the primary goal of ownership.

Sounds like it was only after losing these last 4 games where the team was honest that the playoffs were unlikely and that they should be looking towards next year (although I guess if they won 3 of these last 4 games they'd be in a spot)

Tre and Murray Edwards both have to wear that. Waited too long to have the tough discussion about this season.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Worst goaltending in the league since the all star break and the Flames were unprepared for the deadline? I don't think Treliving's that out of touch but the reality is that this organization has been one of the worst for decades when it comes to being proactive with assets. They always end up having their hand forced by situations rather than dealing with them before things come to a head. This trade deadline is no different. Also would not be shocked if the Flames go into next season with most of their pending UFA's on the roster and unsigned. It's just what the Flames do.

Yup.

I don’t agree with the ‘unprepared’ word used by Friedman. I actually feel that the flames have decided that all major decisions will be made in the offseason, by the new GM.

[activeStick]

Elliotte was on the FAN590 out here in Toronto this morning and has a feeling that something unexpected by anyone is going to happen today. Didn't mention which team it might be. He did talk about the Flames and said he could see Treliving waiting until the summer to make some big moves but feels that after the last few games, he could also see him moving some of his top 6 guys that teams have been calling him on.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Interestingly, Friedman is on the radio here in Toronto right now. When discussing the flames, he stated that the flames have been ‘surprised’ by this ‘mystery’ season, and then he used words like ‘unprepared’ for this deadline period.

Feels like the flames have waited until the final game before the deadline hoping that the flames find some magical eureka moment where the team finally clicks.

Is anyone surprised that folks around hockey are saying they were unprepared?

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Elliotte was on the FAN590 out here in Toronto this morning and has a feeling that something unexpected by anyone is going to happen today. Didn't mention which team it might be. He did talk about the Flames and said he could see Treliving waiting until the summer to make some big moves but feels that after the last few games, he could also see him moving some of his top 6 guys that teams have been calling him on.

I hope they make some smart sales. I’ve been super jealous of the Predators recently.

This is a GREAT draft by all reports.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Is anyone surprised that folks around hockey are saying they were unprepared?

Its embarrassing for the Flames organization if true.