[Trade] Hanifin (salary retained) to Vegas for Miromanov + 2026 1st + cond 3rd

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by FlamesDraftPrognosticator

We want the 2026 draft as it’s deeper than the 2025 draft.

2026 draft> 2024 draft >2025 draft

2026 would also be unprotected...it could be first overall

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Holy overreaction...
Traded a guy that is walking at the end of the year for a 1st, 3rd that becomes a 2nd pretty easily imo and a solid prospect that they also want to extend.

Is it underwhelming, sure, but saying one of the worst in Flames history is comical

Gilmour
Hull
Iginla
Bouwmeester
Phaneuf
to name a few that were a lot worse

It’s an overreaction but he is no prospect

He is almost 27, coming off major surgery . He is a fill in scrub

[CliffFletcher]

Nm

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by SemicolonD

Conroy valuing this Miromanov kid extremely highly. How do you not hedge the conditions in your favor in any way whatsoever when Vegas gets two conditions on the 1st alone. Like say if they lose in the first round and the conditional 2nd pick becomes a 3rd, then you're happy with a higher positioned 2024 1st round pick. Instead you have conditions that give Vegas the power to screw the deal to their benefit in every which way they want. How does Conroy not get compensated for relinquishing that much control.


Can't imagine how bad the Tampa or Florida offers were.

He seems like potentially a decent dman but the only problem there is he has only 1 year of team control left. So unless Conroy can lock him up for 3 or 4 years which seems unlikely, he's going to be a UFA very shortly too and it's not really in the flames interest to invest a ton of time and ice in his development. Hopefully there is a plan to lock him down for a while and he becomes an important sleeper piece in the deal.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by browna

Well, he didn't have to accept that term of the transaction, of course

Yes and maybe there is not a deal then. Who knows. What we do know is the condition he accepted is the condition that every team puts on picks like this when they are top 10 protected. The pick just slips then.

[Nelson]

I feel like the Flames are really getting a 26 1st. McCrimmon would not have put that condition in there if he didn't fully intend on trading their 25 1st.

[Muffins]

So ideally we need Vegas to trade their 25 1st by Friday, win a round in the playoffs, then fall flat on their faces the season after next?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

If the supporting pieces are going to be those, that 1st needs to be condition-less.

[Yobbo]

Wtf kind of deal is this? Refreshing X and CP all night for this? Extremely disappointing.

[OldSam]

Rental. He is nothing but a rental. Thanks to Brisson and his media hacks, no one had to offer much. At least the first round pick will be made before I die.

[Mathgod]

People weren't sold on Sharangovich. People weren't sold on Kuzmenko.

Give this Miromanov kid a chance.

[JT45]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

That first round pick condition explained: "Pretty likely first round matchup vs the Oilers, so sure if you can use the 2025 1st to make your team better we'll let you give us 2026"

Out of thanks. Hilarious. Reminds me of the time I flipped a monopoly board.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by SemicolonD

Conroy valuing this Miromanov kid extremely highly. How do you not hedge the conditions in your favor in any way whatsoever when Vegas gets two conditions on the 1st alone. Like say if they lose in the first round and the conditional 2nd pick becomes a 3rd, then you're happy with a higher positioned 2024 1st round pick. Instead you have conditions that give Vegas the power to screw the deal to their benefit in every which way they want. How does Conroy not get compensated for relinquishing that much control.


Can't imagine how bad the Tampa or Florida offers were.

He’s not a kid. He’s like 6 months younger than Hanifin.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Muffins

So ideally we need Vegas to trade their 25 1st by Friday, win a round in the playoffs, then fall flat on their faces the season after next?

Yes. But win no more rounds after the first, because other teams in the west that Calgary traded with have other conditions.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by SemicolonD

Conroy valuing this Miromanov kid extremely highly. How do you not hedge the conditions in your favor in any way whatsoever when Vegas gets two conditions on the 1st alone. Like say if they lose in the first round and the conditional 2nd pick becomes a 3rd, then you're happy with a higher positioned 2024 1st round pick. Instead you have conditions that give Vegas the power to screw the deal to their benefit in every which way they want. How does Conroy not get compensated for relinquishing that much control.


Can't imagine how bad the Tampa or Florida offers were.

To me if Conroy is valuing anything for him more than he already is, he's wrong. He's 26 and hasn't broken out yet. You may like his skills but what's his ceiling? Anyway, back to the deal, I'm actually happy it's a future 1st rounder and not this years, but the conditions allowing Vegas to call the shots is just dumb. This is clearly teams playing hardball. I thought Conroy had incredible poise with the Rutherford deal, but maybe it was actually Rutherford treating him fairly. These other guys seem to want to bend him over.

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by keenan87

So, who are we cheering for in the playoffs?

Dallas, Vancouver, or Vegas?

Vegas to win first round, then IDGAF.
Dallas to win for Tanev + extra pick.
Vancouver can piss off.

[flames_fan_down_under]

That's it!??

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I feel like the Flames are really getting a 26 1st. McCrimmon would not have put that condition in there if he didn't fully intend on trading their 25 1st.

Agreed, seems like something he had to add in just to avoid issues getting Guentzel

[Wastedyouth]

That's it eh? Wow. I expected a lot more.

[Pickle Juice]

Didn’t Sec say the other day that the flames checked in on Trevor Zegras?

It really feels like Conroy is loading up on picks to make a move for someone like that!