2010 NCAA football thread....

[transplant99]

Color me surprised if this turns out to be true, although with potential labor unrest in the NFL maybe he wants a college job just to get back into the game.

I just dont see him being satisfied with the restrictions of the NCAA though. This guy eats and breathes football, and in college he can only spend 20 hours a week actually coaching his players. In the NFL I would guess he spends that much or more with just a QB....after team meetings and practices. The rest of the time is spent recruiting, getting ready for recruiting and all the other stuff. In the NFL its football 24/7.

If he does go to South Florida though, I have no doubt he will do well.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

The question mark is Jacory Harris, both with his health and his decision making.

At least he's a snappy dresser

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

The chance to take a storied school back to national prominence may be too enticing. Miami has a stable full of great players but their coaching has been suspect. Not a lot of tweaks are needed and I think they can be a 1 or 2 loss team rather easily, especially considering how weak the ACC is.

The big issue with Miami is, they don't have a stadium on campus, and they have second rate athletic facilities. They do have history, but they are a private school that has a poor fan base and doesn't spend a lot of money.

Say what you want, Miami fans have had a hard time getting up to 50% capacity all year. Plus Shannon got them to quit committing crimes.

Now the Gruden to Miami isn't 100%. Tsn might be reporting it but ESPN and the people that I know at UF say it's not a done deal yet

[PIMking]

Cam Newton was ruled eligible to play by the NCAA. But what makes me wonder is they let him off the hook for "not knowing he was being shopped". But that doesn't matter per NCAA rules if a player family member, or rep tries to shop a player to school "A" for something more than a scholarship then he is ineligible and any other school in the country no matter if they know about it or not.

So NCAA, follow your own rules here and not start bending them. This investigation isn't over with. Example would be Bama, they had players suspended in 02 for textbook violations and then the NCAA reinstated the players for the last two games. But later after investigation they were given sanctions.

Why did the NCAA move so fast? They said that if they uncover more evidence they can retro act a suspension. Really? I mean really?

To me this looks like the SEC and Mike Slive sold their soles to make sure we have another SEC team in the title game. (or the NCAA doesn't want TCU in the big game) but we will really see if the Tigers get some home cooking this saturday vs USCe.

[PIMking]

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...ing-job-120110

Gruden say no...

I don't think he would be a college coach.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Cam Newton was ruled eligible to play by the NCAA. But what makes me wonder is they let him off the hook for "not knowing he was being shopped". But that doesn't matter per NCAA rules if a player family member, or rep tries to shop a player to school "A" for something more than a scholarship then he is ineligible and any other school in the country no matter if they know about it or not.

So NCAA, follow your own rules here and not start bending them. This investigation isn't over with. Example would be Bama, they had players suspended in 02 for textbook violations and then the NCAA reinstated the players for the last two games. But later after investigation they were given sanctions.

Why did the NCAA move so fast? They said that if they uncover more evidence they can retro act a suspension. Really? I mean really?

To me this looks like the SEC and Mike Slive sold their soles to make sure we have another SEC team in the title game. (or the NCAA doesn't want TCU in the big game) but we will really see if the Tigers get some home cooking this saturday vs USCe.

the whole thing is brutally transparent and a really good example of who wields power within the NCAA.

The Reggie Bush incident took years to investigate and decide on penalties that are not reasonable when taking into account that none of the guilty parties are even associated with the school any longer...Cam Newton took 24 hours and is still an active part of Auburn. Their "penalty" amounted to Newton missing one practice.

Sad state of affairs.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Arizona State pulls it out in OT and now I'll likely get to watch Brock Osweiler in a bowl game! YIPEEEEEEE!

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by transplant99

the whole thing is brutally transparent and a really good example of who wields power within the NCAA.

The Reggie Bush incident took years to investigate and decide on penalties that are not reasonable when taking into account that none of the guilty parties are even associated with the school any longer...Cam Newton took 24 hours and is still an active part of Auburn. Their "penalty" amounted to Newton missing one practice.

Sad state of affairs.

Something stinks like the NCAA is doing it's best to keep the ratings up and TCU out of the title game.

[Montana Moe]

What are you willing to pay for a blue chip football recruit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Verbal-commitmen...75540765521615

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Something stinks like the NCAA is doing it's best to keep the ratings up and TCU out of the title game.

oh gawd is anything on the planet not the BCS' fault? You really think they are keeping Newton around because of TCU?

Does the ruling smell? Yes, but its the BCS' fault?

And btw even if Newton was out the voters would probably put Wisconsin in it before TCU. What with their credible schedule and all. It's like if Abbotsford has a great record so they belong in the stanley cup final.

[Wise Gamble]

Wow anyone see the overturned call just now in the illinois game wowowowowowowowowow are the refs blind?????????????

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

oh gawd is anything on the planet not the BCS' fault? You really think they are keeping Newton around because of TCU?

Does the ruling smell? Yes, but its the BCS' fault?

And btw even if Newton was out the voters would probably put Wisconsin in it before TCU. What with their credible schedule and all. It's like if Abbotsford has a great record so they belong in the stanley cup final.

I love that analogy. Obviously a bit over the top, but it gets the point across. Two wins over ranked opponents, an Oregon State team that goes from a pretty good team to a terrible team in a heartbeat and a Utah team that was the most fraudulent top 10 team in the country. The rest of that schedule is a joke (SMU, Baylor and Air Force are the next teir of teams). If you put that schedule in front of Stanford, Wisconsin or Ohio State they'd walk through it year after year (I'd add my Spartans but I've experienced too many 'they lost to who?' moments to go out on that branch just yet).

TCU is a very good team, they may well be capable of beating Auburn and Oregon, but there's nothing that tells me they've earned the right to be there over either of those teams, or even some one loss teams. A plus one system would be great for these situations, make TCU beat Wisconsin before the NC matchup is decided. I'm actually surprised that the BCS hasn't gone to the plus one, it would kill off a good portion of complaints without going to the extremes of a playoff and would preserve what makes college football so great as it is. I have to assume that the conferences aren't on board with it, and unless they get on board with any type of change it just isn't going to happen.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by valo403

I love that analogy. Obviously a bit over the top, but it gets the point across. Two wins over ranked opponents, an Oregon State team that goes from a pretty good team to a terrible team in a heartbeat and a Utah team that was the most fraudulent top 10 team in the country. The rest of that schedule is a joke (SMU, Baylor and Air Force are the next teir of teams). If you put that schedule in front of Stanford, Wisconsin or Ohio State they'd walk through it year after year (I'd add my Spartans but I've experienced too many 'they lost to who?' moments to go out on that branch just yet).

TCU is a very good team, they may well be capable of beating Auburn and Oregon, but there's nothing that tells me they've earned the right to be there over either of those teams, or even some one loss teams. A plus one system would be great for these situations, make TCU beat Wisconsin before the NC matchup is decided. I'm actually surprised that the BCS hasn't gone to the plus one, it would kill off a good portion of complaints without going to the extremes of a playoff and would preserve what makes college football so great as it is. I have to assume that the conferences aren't on board with it, and unless they get on board with any type of change it just isn't going to happen.

The BCS is far from perfect, it has it's warts such as too many auto qualifyers but it amazes me that most simply simply ignore that BSU and TCU play fundamentally very different teams. There's probably 30 teams in the country that could run their table and nobody ever cares. Even the BSU and TCU HC's have said the BCS system is quite honestly perfect for us. We get to be in the conversation all the time and don't have to do what other majors schools have to do (read play top tier football games) to be in the mix.

[GirlySports]

If Oregon loses they're out of the NC game for sure, if Auburn loses... it's iffy, they might still get in.

What do you guys think? Does TCU have a chance if either of them lose?

I think Wisconsin has been great and should be the next team in line.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

oh gawd is anything on the planet not the BCS' fault? You really think they are keeping Newton around because of TCU?

Does the ruling smell? Yes, but its the BCS' fault?

And btw even if Newton was out the voters would probably put Wisconsin in it before TCU. What with their credible schedule and all. It's like if Abbotsford has a great record so they belong in the stanley cup final.

Maybe I missed something...but I dont see where he even inferrred the BCS in his post, nevermind mentioning them.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Maybe I missed something...but I dont see where he even inferrred the BCS in his post, nevermind mentioning them.

Inference as follows:

The BCS is a system that puts the regular season #1 vs the regular season #2.

If Auburn has their star quarterback then they are favorites to win the SEC championship, without him they are probably underdogs. Therefore assuming Oregon wins the Civil war the BCS championship could possibly include the Mid Major TCU if Auburn is without their QB. Which the BCS conferences likely would not prefer. The very connection of the Newton ruling and TCU can only be made through the BCS #1 vs #2 game.

Sorry, I don't mean to be condescending, I know you know all the above, just going through the inference since you said you don't see it.

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Inference as follows:

The BCS is a system that puts the regular season #1 vs the regular season #2.

If Auburn has their star quarterback then they are favorites to win the SEC championship, without him they are probably underdogs. Therefore assuming Oregon wins the Civil war the BCS championship could possibly include the Mid Major TCU if Auburn is without their QB. Which the BCS conferences likely would not prefer. The very connection of the Newton ruling and TCU can only be made through the BCS #1 vs #2 game.

Sorry, I don't mean to be condescending, I know you know all the above, just going through the inference since you said you don't see it.

when you say you don't mean to be condescending, it serves to solidify the condescending tone. I hate it when people do that. I don't mean to be condescending in pointing that out...

[browna]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If Oregon loses they're out of the NC game for sure, if Auburn loses... it's iffy, they might still get in.

What do you guys think? Does TCU have a chance if either of them lose?

I think Wisconsin has been great and should be the next team in line.

No way Auburn can get spun into the game, if they're not even conference champions.

If that's the situation, and Oregon wins, you'll definately see the lines in the voting sand drawn with "big school with repuatation" in Wisconsin vs. "BCS buster" in TCU.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

when you say you don't mean to be condescending, it serves to solidify the condescending tone. I hate it when people do that. I don't mean to be condescending in pointing that out...

I amended my note to add that because reading back it sounded simplistic but it's the best way to answer the question. He said he didn't see the inference so I walked through it.

When I said I didn't mean to be condescending it was because I genuinely meant that I didn't want to be condescending, but at the same time wanted to show the inference.

[Montana Moe]

Originally Posted by browna

No way Auburn can get spun into the game, if they're not even conference champions.

If that's the situation, and Oregon wins, you'll definately see the lines in the voting sand drawn with "big school with repuatation" in Wisconsin vs. "BCS buster" in TCU.

Don't count on it. If Auburn loses a close game, I think you'll see them in the Championship. It's happened before, and a team like Auburn in a year like this is a recipe for 2003 Oklahoma all over again. Not that I agree with it, I wanted LSU to face USC in that Championship game...

Wisconsin and TCU being idle won't help them at all, and the final coaches poll tends to get massaged toward favoring the big boys. As long as thy aren't blown off the field, Auburn still gets in, IMO.