[Trade] Hanifin (salary retained) to Vegas for Miromanov + 2026 1st + cond 3rd

[Canada 02]

if you are super patient, a 2026 1st might be preferred, and not top 10 protected. Vegas is old, and there window is wide open, but could close quick. More sugar coating spin

[mrdonkey]

Is there a takesies-backsies condition on the pick too? Did Vegas negotiate a clause where they can decide to cover it in rat poison and light it on fire?

[PeteMoss]

So sounds like to no protection if it becomes a 2026 pick... So you hope they pull a San Jose and go right in the tank in 2026 if it doesn't convey in 2025

[Tbull8]

omg the 3rd is a 2024 but if it becomes a 2nd its 2025???

[Jiri Hrdina]

So if it ends up being the 2026 pick there is zero protection on that one?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Lol at some of you losing your minds.

This is a fine trade.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by devo22

so we don't even get anything extra if the 1st slides to 26?

Jesus effing Christ. We got absolutely robbed.

It’s unprotected…

[Inferno]

Conroy got worked.

Gave retention and allowed Vegas to set two conditions that not only lottery protects it but lets them trade trade the pick and push it back even further.

I had my issues with Hanifin but I'm pretty disappointed.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

From Pat Steinberg

You have to walk away from those BS conditions don't you? 2 days to the deadline and you let them pull that?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by devo22

so we don't even get anything extra if the 1st slides to 26?

Jesus effing Christ. We got absolutely robbed.

Why would the pick in 26 necessarily be worse than in 25? Vegas may well be terrible by then.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Not exactly. Ottawa traded the 12th overall pick for Chychrun. Vegas' pick is likely to be substantially lower. Not all 1sts are created equal. 12OA is probably worth two late 1sts.

Ottawa got 2 and a half years of playing out of the deal. Vegas may get 30 games.

[FlamesDraftPrognosticator]

Isn’t it basically a first and a second rounder as Vegas is likely a lock to win a round this year.

Miromanov is actually decent, basically a poor man Colton Parayko. If given a full season he’s a potential 25-40 point dman. It’s actually a pretty good return, someone posted similar to the monahan deal, no, it’s better because we get a prospect and a 2nd instead of just a 3rd.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

So if it ends up being the 2026 pick there is zero protection on that one?

That’s how I’m reading it.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So they will trade it away to keep it from a division rival and reload for 2026. How Conroy agreed to those conditions is mind boggling. You are already giving a division rival a fantastic deal, hopefully he gets better at this stuff.

It's fine TBH.

The 2025 pick has top 10 protection but the 2026 pick has no protection and guys like Pietrangelo, Marchessault, and Stone are starting to age out a bit.

Vegas is going all in for this season it appears and want their 2024 1st and 2025 1st available to be able to go after Guentzel tomorrow.

If almost be shocked if they don't get Guentzel at this point.

Flames never should have been afraid of future 1st round picks in any of the deals...I actually prefer them.

The real problem is it should have been the 1st, 2nd with no condition, and one of Edstrom, Sapovaliv, Cormier or Korczak.

But the condition on the 1st is fine.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

So sounds like to no protection if it becomes a 2026 pick... So you hope they pull a San Jose and go right in the tank in 2026 if it doesn't convey in 2025

That's the McKenna draft.
If there's no protection on that one, even its a long shot, don't mind having another shot at that kid. Vegas is an old-ass team. Their window may not be long
in fact I would rather they trade the 2025 pick and take a shot at the unprotected 2026.

not thrilled with the return but it is what it is, unless people somehow believe Conroy turned down better offers.

[frodo_t_baggins]

Same return we got for J Bo. A first, AHL d-man and something that turns into a second

[Royle9]

nvm

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So they will trade it away to keep it from a division rival and reload for 2026. How Conroy agreed to those conditions is mind boggling. You are already giving a division rival a fantastic deal, hopefully he gets better at this stuff.

Yeah, should have been the Flames choice. On to the next one.
Hard to believe Boston, Tampa and Florida wouldn’t match.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by devo22

so we don't even get anything extra if the 1st slides to 26?

Jesus effing Christ. We got absolutely robbed.

It would be unprotected

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

So if it ends up being the 2026 pick there is zero protection on that one?

Yeah, because you can’t keep protecting indefinitely.