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Old 03-06-2024, 09:10 PM   #1161
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the 2025 conditional 1st round pick is also Top 10 protected by Vegas.
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:10 PM   #1162
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And this from a guy named Leeman4Gilmour!
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I don't think I've ever heard of a condition like that.

It's a first round pick, but hey....we'll see how we feel about trading the '25 pick in the next couple days and maybe you'll get the '26 instead. We'll see.

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Old 03-06-2024, 09:10 PM   #1164
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Is the 1st protected?
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:10 PM   #1165
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Condition: 2025 1st unless VGK trades it this deadline, then 2026.
Condition: 3rd upgrades to 2nd if VGK win one round in ‘24
Unreal. Vegas was in full control of this negotiation. You want a 2025 pick? Sure, maybe, only if we don't or can't move it in the next 2 days, otherwise take our 2026 pick and like it.
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:10 PM   #1166
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Is there any lottery protection on the 1st? If not and somehow Vegas tanks in the year we get the pick...

Really the only positive i can see on this
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:11 PM   #1167
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Another trade from last year, for a better player.

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Vancouver Canucks acquire defenseman Filip Hronek and a 4th-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft from the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for a conditional 1st-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft and 2nd-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft.
I never understood where all these crazy packages for a first rounder and a blue chip prospect came from. Hanifin is not worth that. We got essentially the same return as the Hronek and Chychrun deals. Why would Hanifin be worth more?
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:11 PM   #1168
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Vegas bent Conroy over and pulled a train. Just a brutal deal with all the conditions.
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:11 PM   #1169
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Well I guess we hope they move the 2025?
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:11 PM   #1170
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That first round pick condition explained: "Pretty likely first round matchup vs the Oilers, so sure if you can use the 2025 1st to make your team better we'll let you give us 2026"
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:11 PM   #1171
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That condition is kind of baffling although hopefully Vegas ages out of their window
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:11 PM   #1172
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No, because we've heard for weeks that Hanifin and his agent were controlling the destination for a team he would sign with. With that logic, it's fair to expect an extension would be part of the deal increasing his value.

Like you said, this is a rental return.
Except that was allegedly only Tbay, and there is a whole thread where everyone was saying this was driving the cost down…
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:11 PM   #1173
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That return is horrible. I don't understand how Vegas could just trade our 25 1st to someone else and give us a 26 1st instead, and we don't even get compensated for that.
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How can there not be a condition to add another pick if it gets pushed by a year. Such bull####
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:12 PM   #1175
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:12 PM   #1176
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I'm not at all a fan of Monahan and Hanifin getting similar returns. Maybe Miromanov will become a player we like, but right now it certainly doesn't look like a great trade.

I'm sure I'll eventually find a way to fool myself into liking this trade though.
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:12 PM   #1177
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Nice, Flames get a 15 year old in the lower part of the first round.

Conroy absolutely got ripped off. Watch them trade the 2024 pick tomorrow and re-sign Hanifin on Saturday.

Only possible way he didn't get ripped off is if Hanifin walks and Vegas gets rolled in the second round.

Absolutely appalling stuff.
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:12 PM   #1178
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Well Hanifin better not re-sign with Vegas.
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Would there been no way to add in a 1st if he resigned..some sort of condition?
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:12 PM   #1179
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Hanifin is going to extend with Vegas after all of this isn't he... as the cherry on top
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Here was a deal last season for a better dman, with term and cost control. Basically the same trade with an extra second round selection.

I really think everyone has been over valuing Hanifin all this time.
Not exactly. Ottawa traded the 12th overall pick for Chychrun. Vegas' pick is likely to be substantially lower. Not all 1sts are created equal. 12OA is probably worth two late 1sts.
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