[News] Upd: Canadian NHL Teams to require proof of vaccination to attend any arena events

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Shut up. Holy crap. If you lack the intelligence to get vaccinated, atleast stop spreading misinformation.

Which point is misinformation, friend? All of them?

Man, that cognitive dissonance sure must hurt.

Don't worry, the ban police will be here soon so you can go back to being comfy.

Have you gotten your third shot yet?

[TheScorpion]

Housley4Prez is the type of person who Theo Fleury seeks to influence with his fearmongering Twitter bull####. This is why misinformation is so dangerous.

I found their point about "achieving scientific consensus" to be particularly suspect because it implies that actual research can be equated with and pitted against baseless conjecture. You're not a scientist, Housley4Prez. You don't have any basis to invalidate the existing consensus.

[GioforPM]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57552527

Ol’ Housley is misrepresenting the data.

“ A study has found data showing the miscarriage rate among vaccinated people was in line with the rate expected in the general population - 12.5%.”

See also:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ys/7899594002/

[Bingo]

From a web site standpoint it's pretty hard. The last thing I want to do is advocate for our moderators to silence the less popular side of an argument.

And imagine the onus on the moderating team to have to head out into the world and fact check every statement made in any topic that has any controversy to it?

Big line up for that job!

I think you guys are doing a great job of pointing out what's debatable or false and providing the depth of thought required to avoid anyone being swayed by someone in a dangerous fashion.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Bingo

But it's not illegal to choose not to get vaccinated and face the restrictions.

if only he could do this quietly instead of leveraging his fame to reach a far larger audience than any normal person could.

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Mods, maybe ban this account since he's spreading clear misinformation. No one needs to read this trash. And Housley4Prez, if you are wondering who you were conned by, it's the Russians. So, uh, congrats on that.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2B0016

SOURCE

Note... it's not Russian. Nice try though, slugger.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

The 12,000+ deaths in VAERS is verified. Ban away.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2P21CV

"VERDICT
Missing context. Reports submitted to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) for adverse events and deaths following the COVID-19 vaccine do not imply causation. Anyone can submit reports and the reports are not verified."

That took about 8 seconds of my life that I won't get back.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bingo

From a web site standpoint it's pretty hard. The last thing I want to do is advocate for our moderators to silence the less popular side of an argument.

And imagine the onus on the moderating team to have to head out into the world and fact check every statement made in any topic that has any controversy to it?

Big line up for that job!

I think you guys are doing a great job of pointing out what's debatable or false and providing the depth of thought required to avoid anyone being swayed by someone in a dangerous fashion.

With respect, it’s not just the “less popular side”. It’s misleading information. There’s a reason twitter and instagram have taken steps to clamp down on it - there’ a potential of liability for the site.

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57552527

Ol’ Housley is misrepresenting the data.

“ A study has found data showing the miscarriage rate among vaccinated people was in line with the rate expected in the general population - 12.5%.”

See also:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ys/7899594002/

Eyes on Israel, friend. They got one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. And they're priming for round three!

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yikes ... I think both of you (Scorp too) took this too far.

Fleury stands for a lot of things I don't believe in, but he's certainly allowed to not choose to get vaccinated and because of that not able to go to hockey games.

There's nothing controversial in that other than a personal choice that he's allowed to make.

Semi-serious.

It's not likely 14 goes back into circulation.

Maybe Kent Nilsson is willing to be feted with a mid-ice pregame ceremony.

[sekimet]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

Antibody Dependant Enhancement (ADE) is an issue with mRNA. Listen to the inventor of the technology himself, Dr. Robert W. Malone. They sure canceled him quickly after he spoke to Dr Bret Weinstein about the topic.

But it's not the mRNA itself that's the issue, but the S-spike proteins that the mRNA is designed to recreate. We know from the work of Dr. Byram Bridle through obtained autopsy data from Japan that the spike proteins don't stay put in the arm like we were told they would, but instead travel throughout the entire body, often congregating in larger numbers around the genital regions.

We've witnessed 4/5ths of women in the first trimester suffering miscarriages. We've witnessed youths (mostly male) suffering from myocarditis. We've witnessed several people with other major side effects.

But... I mean, pocket dawgs and malts, they're worth the risk for, right guys?

Maybe if we trade for Eichel I'll reconsider my values and get the jab. /s

Woah, there is a lot to unpack here. I will get back to you on how some of your concerns and information are flat out wrong when I am off of work, but also you should be following up with the evidence that has led you to these conclusions to start with. It is hard for me to correct you, when you don't source your information so I can see the study methodology myself.


In the mean time can you source me where you are getting this information? Any evidence on ADE being a concern to start (All peer reviewed evidence is unclear on if clinical ADE is a conern)(https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5) (https://immunizebc.ca/ask-us/questio...vid-19-disease), but then also Dr. Bridles peer reviewed study on spike proteins "congregating" which I cannot find, and also where you are getting any linkage between the vaccine and miscarriages?
Thanks!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

Eyes on Israel, friend. They got one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. And they're priming for round three!

Oh noes - booster shots!!!

And it’s a good thing:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...sk-2021-08-22/

And the Israel experience seems to be an anomaly and misreported:

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/va...ox-news-guest/

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

Conned by whom, my friend? Are you going to accuse me of getting all my information from Facebook or Instagram?

What does Dr. Robert W. Malone have to gain from warning people about the mRNA technology he was instrumental in inventing?

A brand new injection, never before approved in the history of pharmaceuticals, whipped up within hours, and rolled out with lightning speed. It doesn't prevent you from getting the disease. It doesn't prevent you from transmitting the disease. A disease with a survival rate of over 99.5%, and y'all are high fiving like we just won a world war.

We have ZERO long term data. We don't have any idea of the long-term effects.

I work in marketing for clients in this field, and have for over a decade. I've seen $9 stocks plummet to $0.09 overnight with just a dozen adverse effects reported. We're currently witnessing history, that's for sure.

They keep saying it's safe and effective. If that were the case, then why are there tens of thousands of deaths associated with it, and hundreds of thousands of serious adverse effects? We have no clue about the long term effects of this thing on our immune system, nor our reproductive system.

Very talented and serious experts in the applicable sciences are speaking out about this, but they keep getting silenced. And all of you are just happy those experts can't get into a hockey game now. Bravo.

Bigger fish to fry. Enjoy the fall/winter lockdowns. Probably a good idea to go ahead and exchange Christmas gifts now.

Ah, gotcha, so you have no scientific background at all.

I've already debunked the rest of this, so feel free to scroll back in this thread and just read that again.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

Eyes on Israel, friend. They got one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. And they're priming for round three!

We're looking back to February for an eye on where this is going?

[Inglewood Jack]

I would get banned for posting unverifiable claims about NHL players' personal lives. But posting misleading information about COVID during the height of a global pandemic is just a "less popular opinion".

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

With respect, it’s not just the “less popular side”. It’s misleading information. There’s a reason twitter and instagram have taken steps to clamp down on it - there’ a potential of liability for the site.

I hear you, I honestly do.

Anyone can claim misinformation, but to have moderators have to go out and prove it on a topic by topic basis is pretty hard. The world is pretty broken when it comes to the word "fact" ... people can find pretty much anything they want to support their argument.

This could easily be heading for action, and I'll leave that to the moderator team, but I'm just trying to avoid the membership from insisting on something that would require a lot of research and some precedent setting.

[GioforPM]

Housely’s claims about Bridle are just inane:

https://www.kxan.com/news/national-n...ed-by-experts/

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2P21CV

"VERDICT
Missing context. Reports submitted to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) for adverse events and deaths following the COVID-19 vaccine do not imply causation. Anyone can submit reports and the reports are not verified."

That took about 8 seconds of my life that I won't get back.

Because that's all you typically put into information gathering. Type into Google claim, followed by "debunked", read headline, and feel snug and warm again.

Funny how the CDC admits that people who die "with" covid got included into stats of those who died "from" covid... and you don't bat an eye.

But then when hundreds of thousands of people report their experiences to VAERS after getting their shots, you smear them, silence them, and ultimately go back to ignoring them.

Those VAERS reports must be filed without fraud, otherwise it's a heavy penalty imposed if caught. Must be those pesky Russians again, eh?

Must be nice to know that with the makers of these things having ZERO liability if something goes wrong, they'll have you guys to go in and protect them for free.

In Canada, our data reporting system only accounts for 72 hours. If you have any side effects outside of that, tough luck, because we can't report anything after that window closes.

At least the government will be kind enough to pay for funerals.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

I would get banned for posting unverifiable claims about NHL players' personal lives. But posting misleading information about COVID during the height of a global pandemic is just a "less popular opinion".

That's pretty lazy if that's your summary of what I said.

Disappointing.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

SOURCE

Note... it's not Russian. Nice try though, slugger.

Congrats on posting a link to a real source that doesn't backup anything you say. Well done. Now show the part where tens of thousands of deaths are linked to it. Oh, what's that? It's not there? well then. STFU and go away.