CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[starseed]

Originally Posted by GGG

I am a little confused here could you clarify your logic. Bizaro trying to steer the vote away from active and transplant makes active suspicious.

On Day 1 you were also trying to steer the vote away from active and transplant.

What is the difference between your two behavious as to why one is suspicious and the other isnt.

I could be missing something in your argument.

I did mean that aS suspicion level goes up with bizaro deflecting away from him. The difference between my push and his, was that he flipped mafia.

I will respond more later tonight.

[Street Pharmacist]

^^I was referring to CC's post

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by starseed

CC, I think the problem with jumping on those mistakes was shown with agulati. We can keep this in the backburner and keep an eye on him, but I think we have to jump on solid leads from the known mafia member at this point. Starting with suspects he was helping to lead votes away from.

In my defense and a lot of others , Agulati's post mistake was really one that just couldn't be ignored, especially that early in the game, plus his behavior afterwords, and that's sometimes the intent of putting vote stacks up on someone, to see how they react and defend themselves since we can always unvote.

We have two things to really go on, one is voting history which is relatively tough at the best of times, the other is post errors more then anything else. And the third one is vote push strategy.

Its tough, I still feel that Lego is dirty and tried to target vote someone just to watch him die, which to me is mob at this point in the game.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

In my defense and a lot of others , Agulati's post mistake was really one that just couldn't be ignored, especially that early in the game, plus his behavior afterwords, and that's sometimes the intent of putting vote stacks up on someone, to see how they react and defend themselves since we can always unvote.

We have two things to really go on, one is voting history which is relatively tough at the best of times, the other is post errors more then anything else. And the third one is vote push strategy.

Its tough, I still feel that Lego is dirty and tried to target vote someone just to watch him die, which to me is mob at this point in the game.

Much Like Strombad, Lego is pushing for a fella. What sold me on Strombad is his willingness to jump on his sword if he is wrong. Death in this game is not the end. I a townie dies, but the Town wins, then the townies are still victorious

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by CofR

I didn't play in last game, at what point did we start figuring it out and start lynching mafia?

i think in that game the NHLPA got a lot of fortunate bounces in terms of Owner kills off the start which really changed the rules, there was also only one mafia group so it was easy to see patterns, we're trying to hunt two strategically separate groups so we're not just trying to find scum.

But last game? It was towards the end that we saw intentional mob kills.

We are beind the 8 ball a bit because of that first day loss of a huge power and the 4 village kill.

In the words of field marshall blah blah from StarShip Troopers, we can ill afford another Klandethu. That's what Random kills or posting style kills in my mind can do more harm then good.

[Lego Man]

Some of you guys just can't accept/understand that randomly voting out somebody will statistically give the town a higher chance at lynching scum at this point in the game, than looking for 'suspicious' posts.

It's so easy to blend in right now it's ridiculous.

And I'm not going to suggest falling on my sword when one person votes for me. It's quite obvious any towns-person will we willing to fall on their sword when the time comes, so why does it need to be said formally.

[Hockeyguy15]

We have a mafia member flipped, we should be going back and looking at his posts for clues (like we have been). I'm curious why you don't think a random vote is a better course of action?

[Hockeyguy15]

Er....I'm curious why you do think a random vote is a better course of action.

[Mazrim]

I have sent transplant99 a warning for inactivity.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

I have sent transplant99 a warning for inactivity.

No no Mazarin, you don't understand, he has this thing called a job.

[Mazrim]

Vote Count:

With 23 alive, it takes 12 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 8 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (8): Hockeyguy15, flameswin, CofR, Crazy Bacon Legs, activeStick, Street Pharmacist, Aeneas, Completely

Voting:
activeStick (8): strombad, Rathji, undercoverbrother, Lego Man, ineedanother, starseed, Baxter Renegade, transplant99
transplant99 (3): kermitology, DropIt, devo22
starseed (2): GGG, HalifaxDrunk
Lego Man (1): CaptainCrunch
Crazy Bacon Legs (1): Oling_Roachinen

Deadline is Tuesday, May 13th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by flameswin

No no Mazarin, you don't understand, he has this thing called a job.

wait did you just call the Dungeon Master an A$$hat?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

wait did you just call the Dungeon Master an A$$hat?

Haha his personal attacks in a fun game thread were hilarious.

[Hockeyguy15]

Pst...Mazrim, that is 8 people voting for activeStick and 3 for transplant.

[Hockeyguy15]

Well well, look who can edit posts....

[Lego Man]

The fact that it got to the point that transplant99 has a warning all but proves to me he is an uninterested towns-person, since Mafia would have been on his case much earlier. It's not like he can't post, he does just not as if a mafia member would. Plus, I'm assuming the game is much easier to get into starting as a mafia member.

Back to stats.

Assuming I am also town, we have 7/21=33% chance of randomly selecting a mafia member at this point.

Based on the fact that it is so easy for a mafia member to hide, lie, and influence the voting patterns this early on (without being cross-referenced back to the early game) - I'd wager that the chance of us voting scum for the next few game days are lower than 25%.

ANYWAYS, I am still suspicious of ActiveStick.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Lego Man

-snip-

Back to stats.

Assuming I am also town, we have 7/21=33% chance of randomly selecting a mafia member at this point.

Based on the fact that it is so easy for a mafia member to hide, lie, and influence the voting patterns this early on (without being cross-referenced back to the early game) - I'd wager that the chance of us voting scum for the next few game days are lower than 25%.

ANYWAYS, I am still suspicious of ActiveStick.

I'm not that big on made up stats, which is what that 25% is since there is nothing to actually base it on.

Another made up number would be that because bizaro tried to steer the vote from activeStick and transplant to hmmhmmcamo it possibly means that one of them could be mafia. That would mean we have a 50/50 shot at lynching a mafia member.

[Street Pharmacist]

vote: transplant99

[CofR]

Would a scum really avoid posting enough to get a warning like that? Seems to me that T99 is more likely to be an uninterested town member than a mafia member.

[Lego Man]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I'm not that big on made up stats, which is what that 25% is since there is nothing to actually base it on.

Another made up number would be that because bizaro tried to steer the vote from activeStick and transplant to hmmhmmcamo it possibly means that one of them could be mafia. That would mean we have a 50/50 shot at lynching a mafia member.

Fair enough on made up stats, but in reality I'm sure that figure lies lower than 33%. That strategy is more for the first few days... not now after we've actually had a real lead. I totally agree with you about the Bizaro situation.

It's why I voted against him (or her).