2011 Canadian Election Thread

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by zamler

The report was a draft, do you know what that means? The AG is even saying use "caution" with what was leaked.
You can believe that if you want. But I get the feeling you are apt to believe just about anything negative about Harper. So how is that pitch fork sharpening thing going for ya?

Yeah with that many specific details, you think the "report" will be greatly different from the 'draft'?? hahahahaha But i get the feeling you are apt to believe just about anything positive about Harper.

Ms. Fraser analyzed the $1-billion cost of last June's G8 summit in Ontario cottage country and subsequent gathering of G20 leaders in downtown Toronto and was to have tabled a final report in Parliament on April 5.
The report was put on ice when Stephen Harper's government was defeated, and now won't be released until sometime after the May 2 election.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Watching Bertuzzied post his giddy replies is amusing.

Thanks button is over there. ==================================>
hehe

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well surely Harper and his cronies will release the report right?

There is a procedure that has to be followed is there not? I like how you show your impartiality by using terms such as "cronies" though.

According to one CBC reporter though its "Brutal".

CBC reporter, yea. Says it all.

So if the final report has no smoking gun in it, will you change your mind about Harper? Nope, you'll find something else to beat us over the head with.

[Kerplunk]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Thanks button is over there. ==================================>
hehe

Amusing, but not worthy of a Thanks.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by zamler

I like how you show your impartiality by using terms such as "cronies" though.

I didn't realize there was a rule that mandated posters on this message board had to be impartial.

So if the final report has no smoking gun in it, will you change your mind about Harper? Nope, you'll find something else to beat us over the head with.

If the final report does have a smoking gun and is damningly critical of Harper, will you change your mind about him and vote for one of the other parties?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

I didn't realize there was a rule that mandated posters on this message board had to be impartial.

Read the rules more carefully. I bet you never actually read the rules, did you? No, there is no such rule. But at least a hint of impartiality is welcome.

If the final report does have a smoking gun and is damningly critical of Harper, will you change your mind about him and vote for one of the other parties?

That would put me in a very difficult position. There is no viable alternative. I don't like that at all, but it's reality. I look at the parties and leaders on balance, I don't base my vote on one single event or issue.

And I don't start foaming at the mouth and join the lynch mob at the suggestion of misdoings.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Kerplunk

Amusing, but not worthy of a Thanks.

Darn it. I was trying to hit my internal target of 4000 thanks by June.

[MarchHare]

^^ I did my part.

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Darn it. I was trying to hit my internal target of 4000 thanks by June.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by zamler

There is a procedure that has to be followed is there not? I like how you show your impartiality by using terms such as "cronies" though.

CBC reporter, yea. Says it all.

So if the final report has no smoking gun in it, will you change your mind about Harper? Nope, you'll find something else to beat us over the head with.

Cronies is the applicable term when you're doling out contracts to friends. I'm sure that same term applied when the Liberals were accused of misdoings during adscam?

I've stated numerous times that I'm an undecided. I have no qualms about saying that the mounting evidence makes it near impossible for me to vote for Harper. I don't think that the Liberal numbers add up, won't vote NDP and the Greens are too far out in left field to consider.

I'm not impartial though and not going to try. When the government that came to power is one that campaigned extensively on how they were above all of this and get caught with the same issues they are not going to get my vote, and yes I will enjoy pointing that out.

[Slava]

btw, judging by the Tories crying foul in blocking the Liberal motion to get the report released even if there is/was an election, I'm guessing the results are not as glowing as they'd have us believe:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1981178/

[zamler]

Why are the NDP also blocking the auditor’s report?

Look, if Harper and his buddies are indeed funneling tax payers money needlessly into pet projects etc. then I will be very disappointed.

[Slava]

^ The NDP blocking that is perplexing. I have no idea why they would do that?

The reality is that unless you're a political junkie (like me) then this kind of thing just serves to disenchant more voters. Why vote if they're all funneling public monies to their buddies?

[zamler]

Jack must be up to something, some kind of deal with Harper? And I really think the Libs had a copy of the report for some time now, but sat on it and planned their election strategy around it. I just don't see how they can pull it off, they don't have any ground to stand on when it comes to misusing our money.

What is Iggy going to say, vote for us our sins are all in the past now, Mr. Harper is the new sinner in town?

[MarchHare]

What is Iggy going to say, vote for us our sins are all in the past now, Mr. Harper is the new sinner in town?

That's pretty much how politics have worked for since democracy was invented. Harper screwed up, so now Ignatieff is promising to come in and clean up the mess. Before that, Chretien screwed up, so Harper promised to come in and clean up the mess. Before that, Mulroney screwed up, so Chretien promised to come in and clean up the mess. Before that, Trudeau screwed up, so Mulroney promised to come in and clean up the mess.

You can follow that same cycle practically all the way back to Sir John A. with very few exceptions of the occasional honest PM like Lester Pearson.

[Slava]

It must be a CPC/NDP coalition! It makes sense because I commonly type CCP for them anyway

I realise that the Liberal record is not great. That being said they were punished electorally, as well as ridding themselves of the wrong-doers. the RCMP investigated and you know the rest of the story.

All I know is that if these guys are acting this unethically or brazen with a minority then there is no way that they deserve a majority and the carte blanche power that comes with that.

[killer_carlson]

I was up in the lone non-tory riding in the province over the weekend and again today, albeit in a different part.

If you judge by the number of signs on lawns, the NDP will take this riding handily. Based on my highly informal count as I was driving, an average of 4 NDP signs to 1 tory. There were a grand total of ZERO liberal signs.

This actually isn't that much of a surprise after the Liberals handed their votes to the NDP by running a 20 year old 2nd year poli sci student, who was selected after the government fell and apparently has no infrastructure. There are some big provincial liberal heavyweights on his campaign and riding association - people who would have been credible candidates - but they chose to let the 20 year old run. It's a fricken joke if you ask me.

Anyways, I bet that the majority of the Liberal votes go NDP and they hold onto the seat.

[Addick]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

There are some big provincial liberal heavyweights on his campaign and riding association - people who would have been credible candidates - but they chose to let the 20 year old run. It's a fricken joke if you ask me.

Is it really? Would you waste your time chatting up a girl if you knew she was going to leave with another guy? That's what Alberta is to the Liberals, a lost cause. The real joke is how we love to punish ourselves in Alberta by mistakenly thinking we are punishing the Liberals.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Addick

Is it really? Would you waste your time chatting up a girl if you knew she was going to leave with another guy? That's what Alberta is to the Liberals, a lost cause. The real joke is how we love to punish ourselves in Alberta by mistakenly thinking we are punishing the Liberals.

Another relevant question is how hard you would try if she's already your wife.

Originally Posted by Slava

Just produce the evidence that this isn't a case of pigs at the trough and it'll all go away.....

Speaking of pork...

http://www.680news.com/news/national...680news&title=

Looks like the Tories are allocating stimulus money preferentially to their own ridings.

60% of stimulus money went to the 46% of ridings that voted Conservatives. But hey, that's perfectly normal, right? At least, that's what this Tory says.

http://www.therecord.com/news/electi...candidate-says

[The Goon]

Article on how Calgary gets ignored during the election:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1981020/

[starseed]

I just cannot believe this quote from a 'conservative' cabinet minister, Tony Clement, 'Let me tell you, billions of dollars were spent across this country .… We got our fair share, and I'll never be ashamed of that.'



Waste millions on gazebos and fake lakes, then claim it's all fair because of other infrastructure projects around the country? How is this conservatism??? I am sure the residents of his riding would have much preferred that money go to hiring doctors and nurses than gazebos and landscaping.