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Old 09-15-2009, 11:56 AM   #101
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The language argument is not at play here. Because of the posts that FG and Rouge made I've decided to just not use any words at all unless necessary.

I don't find the words I was using offensive, but others do. Others seem to like a different set of words but I find those to be offensive (seriously). Instead, I'll just try and use no special vocab for disabled people unless necessary (like here otherwise this wouldn't make any sense.) Instead of the handicapped guy at the back of the theatre making noise, I'll just say the guy at the back of the theatre making noise. Instead of the crippled/disable/whatever guy in the elevator, I'll just say guy in the wheelchair.


All I'm trying to say is that just because I use language you don't like doesn't mean that I don't sympathize with or treat disable people properly, as some of you seem to think.

Try looking at my original post with language you like and then ignore the last bit that starts with "As always I should add..." and tell me you think there is a problem.
For me at least, there is no correlation between language usage and treatment. (for me and only in this case)

I get the feeling that had I used PC language and left out the disclaimer (obviously if I used PC language) people would have thanked my post instead of attacked it. I'll even go back and edit my original post so that you can read a PC version of my views. EDIT: Done. Now you can read my views without being offended and hopefully my ORIGINAL point that consideration for ALL PEOPLE regardless of their condition is important.

As for hating me, speak for yourself, some of the others seem to have my entire life mapped out because of a few posts...
Well there are always going to be different points of view. And yeah, actions do speak louder than words in real life; however, that isn't the case in a chat forum so that's why people are/were upset with your choice of diction. Looks like you're cleaning that up so hopefully you'll have quelled any anger.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:40 PM   #102
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Flip flop, from my perspective it appears that you have next to no ability to put yourself in another man's shoes. Couple that with a "###### you, I do what I want, you can't judge me, you don't know me" attitude and you come off as an immature man-child who, while he craves approval, will not accept responsibility for the delivery (the manner and tone in which the statement was made) of his argument when confronted with it.

Imagine this:
You are in a room when someone asks you what time it is.

You look at your watch and respond, "It's 1:30."

That person glances over your shoulder and notices a wall clock they missed and says "That clock says it is 3:30."

You immediately respond by yelling at them so loud it blows their hair back, calling them stupid and saying that your watch is always right because it is a Timex.

Someone else enters the room and looks at their watch and says "3:30, I guess I made it just in time."

You look at your watch and realize that it must have stopped after listening to it and observing that no hands are moving. You then turn to the first person and say "Sorry, I was wrong about the time."

Do you think the first person would harbour any resentment towards you?

Think about it.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:24 PM   #103
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The language argument is not at play here. Because of the posts that FG and Rouge made I've decided to just not use any words at all unless necessary.

I don't find the words I was using offensive, but others do. Others seem to like a different set of words but I find those to be offensive (seriously). Instead, I'll just try and use no special vocab for disabled people unless necessary (like here otherwise this wouldn't make any sense.) Instead of the handicapped guy at the back of the theatre making noise, I'll just say the guy at the back of the theatre making noise. Instead of the crippled/disable/whatever guy in the elevator, I'll just say guy in the wheelchair.


All I'm trying to say is that just because I use language you don't like doesn't mean that I don't sympathize with or treat disable people properly, as some of you seem to think.

Try looking at my original post with language you like and then ignore the last bit that starts with "As always I should add..." and tell me you think there is a problem.
For me at least, there is no correlation between language usage and treatment. (for me and only in this case)

I get the feeling that had I used PC language and left out the disclaimer (obviously if I used PC language) people would have thanked my post instead of attacked it. I'll even go back and edit my original post so that you can read a PC version of my views. EDIT: Done. Now you can read my views without being offended and hopefully my ORIGINAL point that consideration for ALL PEOPLE regardless of their condition is important.

As for hating me, speak for yourself, some of the others seem to have my entire life mapped out because of a few posts...
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Old 09-16-2009, 03:25 PM   #104
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^^ And Riders fans don't think that they are mentally challenged.
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