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GreenTeaFrapp · 02-26-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by octothorp

It is a real uphill struggle for a landlocked, non-capital, relatively recently-formed city to become world class, and Calgary holds up pretty well against other cities in a similar situation (in fact, I'd say we could be the best 100-year-old, landlocked non-capital city in the world).

I think Vegas has you beat.

DESS · 02-26-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozer

You've already called the thread (/thread) and I think the topic has run its course. Why not enlighten us all with your bear massacring logic?

Fine. I don't think bears are innocent, that's why. I think they are predatory and innately evil.

Look, you wouldn't think twice about exterminating termites to protect a 2x4 in your house, nor would 99.999999999% of Christians. I'm simply applying that same logic to bears, except I'm not trying to protect dead wood, I'm trying to protect my loved ones from a horrible death at the hands (well paws, lol) of a bear. I don't understand why this is such a stretch for you guys.

Hack&Lube · 02-26-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I don't like the Stampede either and I gotta wonder what tourists who come here for it think of it all. My guess is that more than a few of them every year find themselves in the middle of Stampede Park and they say "we came all the way here for this? We coulda gone anywhere!"

That's what I feel as well. I am the sort of person who when in a Chinese restaurant, feels bad for the non-chinese people who try ordering off the menu and get something terrible (I always think that thing needs pictures), not to mention that most Chinese food needs to be eaten in large groups for variety. I've seen many couples order one $15 plate and it's a pile of steaming vegetables. Ouch!

In the same way, I feel a bit of a cringe and embarassement when my relatives or other tourists come and ask to see the Stampede and I wonder if they do indeed think: "we came all the way for this?". The Stampede is fine, Stampede spirit is cool. Wearing jeans to work and Stampede breakfasts are tres cool...I just don't like all the false hype and sort of false advertising I think the Stampede does to sell itself as bigger than it is. It is what it is. A small western themed festival with carnival rides, rodeos, and small outdoor performances in an aging park (they really need to redevelop that whole area into something modern, like an entertainment neighbourhood for year-round activities).

Dan02 · 02-26-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

I think Vegas has you beat.

but Vegas is Vegas, it quite clearly doesn't count.

Cactus Jack · 02-26-2009, 02:19 PM

Calgary is not a world class city despite that being the city's goal. I also have to explain to people it's proximity to Vancouver, because people only know the big 3 Canadian cities.

And the Stampede is nice and no dog and pony show but let's not kid ourselves, it's not a world reknown festival. Carnival in Rio, Lovefest/Parade in Germany, Oktoberfest, Reading and Glastonbury. those are huge festivals.
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Gozer · 02-26-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DESS

Fine. I don't think bears are innocent, that's why. I think they are predatory and innately evil.

1) Are bears not created by God?
2) Would you support extinction of all species that fit this description?
3) Would that logic also apply to humans you consider predatory and evil?

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Originally Posted by DESS

Look, you wouldn't think twice about exterminating termites to protect a 2x4 in your house, nor would 99.999999999% of Christians.

I consider myself a Christian, and I would defend my property as you described. Wiping out an entire species isn't exactly the same thing.

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Originally Posted by DESS

I don't understand why this is such a stretch for you guys.

The zealously religious are often confused at the simple minded. It's just a burden you will have to bear.

Yeah_Baby · 02-26-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozer

The zealously religious are often confused at the simple minded. It's just a burden you will have to bear.

*insert rim shot here*

DESS · 02-26-2009, 02:28 PM

Never said I was a perfect Christian...simply answered your question. I guess that's why I supported Bush and I'm sure most of you guys love Obama. I believe in pre-emptive strikes. lol

Gozer · 02-26-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DESS

Never said I was a perfect Christian...simply answered your question.

I didn't mean to suggest anything about your piety, you stated you stopped discussing massacring bears when it was apparent logic would not prevail. I am attempting to follow your logic.

1) Are bears not created by God?
2) Would you support extinction of all species that fit this description?
3) Would that logic also apply to humans you consider predatory and evil?

Yeah_Baby · 02-26-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DESS

Never said I was a perfect Christian...simply answered your question. I guess that's why I supported Bush and I'm sure most of you guys love Obama. I believe in pre-emptive strikes. lol

Yeah, but no one is a "perfect Christian". You must be really sad they're shutting down Gitmo? During the cup run in 2004 when everyone had a car flag were you like my then hairdresser that told me it would be great if instead of a Flames flag we could all have Christian flags?

DESS · 02-26-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozer

I didn't mean to suggest anything about your piety, you stated you stopped discussing massacring bears when it was apparent logic would not prevail. I am attempting to follow your logic.

1) Are bears not created by God?
yes and so are termites and most people have no problem whatsoever killing them. it is hypocritical to say a bear is more important than a termite just because it is bigger. I kill mosquitoes, too and they were also created by God.
2) Would you support extinction of all species that fit this description?
right now I'm only worried about the ones that affect me and my family. others can worry about animals that affect them.
3) Would that logic also apply to humans you consider predatory and evil?
yes. as I said, I supported (and continue to support) Bush's pre-emptive attack on Iraq because humans that are predatory and evil must be eliminated.

Answers above and I hope you're satisfied now. I'm starting to feel like a real jerk for yet again derailing this thread after I said I wouldn't.

Phanuthier · 02-26-2009, 02:39 PM

So DESS isn't just messing with us...?

MrMastodonFarm · 02-26-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Then my mom stuck me in tiny cowboy boots and sent me to school where everybody laughed at the little asian kid in his plastic hat and silly boots.

hahaha! That's still funny!

Yeah_Baby · 02-26-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DESS

yes. as I said, I supported (and continue to support) Bush's pre-emptive attack on Iraq because humans that are predatory and evil must be eliminated.

I thought all human life was sacred? To God sin is sin. As a race humanity quantifies it (which is probably a good thing). While I at times have a hard time understanding this the fact remains. So really dogmatically, you lying to your parents, stealing a candy bar etc, to God is as "predatory and evil" as any other sin.

Hack&Lube · 02-26-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

hahaha! That's still funny!

You should see the pictures! I tried to salvage it by turning it into space-ranger suit or something. I put on those 3D cardboard glasses, made a belt and "space" armor out of construction paper and masking tape, and carried a Nintendo zapper around the house...but kept the cowboy boots.

DESS · 02-26-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I thought all human life was sacred? To God sin is sin. As a race humanity quantifies it (which is probably a good thing). While I at times have a hard time understanding this the fact remains. So really dogmatically, you lying to your parents, stealing a candy bar etc, to God is as "predatory and evil" as any other sin.

lol wut?

Yeah_Baby · 02-26-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DESS

lol wut?

Basicly, based on my understanding from my Confirmation days was that God all Sin is Sin. So stealing a Candy bar to God, is like Murder. It's all the same. Hence why he can forgive your sins no matter what. So I was responding to your devout, Christian self that your being hypocritical by saying we need to kill evil people when really, to God, humanity is all the same level as equal. That apparently was lost on you.

ok, ok,....I get it · 02-26-2009, 02:56 PM

DESS, you think we should be going everywhere there is evil......Zimbawe, Sudan........you can keep you type of christianity...

flamesdyehard · 02-26-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Maybe you should be mad at your mom and stop blaming the Stampede for all your problems.

I don't like the Stampede either and I gotta wonder what tourists who come here for it think of it all. My guess is that more than a few of them every year find themselves in the middle of Stampede Park and they say "we came all the way here for this? We coulda gone anywhere!"

It's better for the locals than it is for the tourists. If you come in from out of town, it's basically a regular city with a second-rate amusement park in the middle of it, and a rodeo. But for the people who live here, it's a week of slacking off at work, heavy drinking, pancake breakfasts, so it's good.

Oh yeah, and all this "attracts a million visitors", it's like Stampede Propaganda and we've heard it repeated so many times some people seem to believe it. If the turnstiles turn a million times at the park, it doesn't mean a million people came to Calgary. The vast majority of the people that go to the Stampede live in Calgary, and a lot of them go more than once.

I agree with you that it doesn't being a million people to Calgary, but during Stampede you cannot find a hotel room in Calgary.

Hack&Lube · 02-26-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Basicly, based on my understanding from my Confirmation days was that God all Sin is Sin. So stealing a Candy bar to God, is like Murder. It's all the same. Hence why he can forgive your sins no matter what. So I was responding to your devout, Christian self that your being hypocritical by saying we need to kill evil people when really, to God, humanity is all the same level as equal. That apparently was lost on you.

It depends on the denomination or even individual theolgical intepretation on the so-called weighting of sins. Certainly if you read the bible literally, it's pretty difficult to come away with a egalitarian answer like "sin is a sin" when there are specifically verses which talk about "6 things that God hates the most" and "the unforgivable sin", etc.

Your Confirmation Days? Mormon? I think that in Dess' world, your stand would have to be outside of the Stampede grounds as well. And Bear infested.