[Bump] Hooker and/or Blow

[CrusaderPi]

I'd blue square Thor for turning this friendly thread about some good and bad stories into something resembling a pissing match. Just on principle.

I remember when I was renting a 3 bedroom house with 11 other people (3 of us had job) I can upstairs from a pleasant evening of light social drinking and Wrestlemania to find a 3 or four total strangers doing blow on the living room table. Now, I'm sure one of my housemates knew these people, but they hadn't knocked when they came in or announced their presence when they got in. Nor had they aboded by the house rule of 'all drugs are done in the garage'.

Anyway, after recover from my initial shock and being thankful that they were just strangers doing drugs rather then strangers robbing the place I acknowledged them, said have a good night and went to bed. To this day no one admits to knowing these people.


Good times.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Thor

Plan a night with you and your wife, have your favorite CD's ready, a good meal, and make sure you won't be disturbed. Both drop some MDMA (Extacy) and have an amazing evening together.

Then tell me all illegal drugs are bad and you could never get anything from doing them..

Thank me later

As someone who has done extacy and other illegal drugs numerous times I recommend that you don't do this.

I don't need DARE or other so-called propaganda to tell me drugs are bad, I have enough personal experience and plenty of antedoctal experience to realize it on my own.

I am not going to tell people to do it or not. And to suggest that drugs aren't as bad as they are portrayed is just plain stupid in my opinion.

[HelloHockeyFans]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

For my 24th bday, my buddies got me an escort. Best bday present ever!!! Fantastic. Not a hooker, so I didn't feel as dirty

Is there a difference? Really? To me, they're the same thing. You pay both for sexual favours in return. No difference actually... unless you're talking about the street walkers and escorts... but even then, both are basically the same when it comes down to it. Personally, I don't believe in paying for sex.

Funny story, but one of my good friends back home in Vancouver has an interesting outlook on the whole escort thing... his background is that he basically has a ton of cash to throw around, so the cost of escorts really doesn't phase him. But any how, he regularly sees escorts because he says at the $300 - $500 amount it costs him to see one, he's spending time with a legitimately gorgeous woman where he knows he's going to get laid and get laid good.

His theory is that you can go out to the clubs/bars with your friends and try and pick up and bring a girl home, but it requires a lot more effort and the process also hits the wallet albeit a little less... AND actually scoring isn't even guaranteed. Throw in the strong likelihood that if you do happen to score and bring some one home for the night, she's probably not going to come any where close to being as hot as a professional escort that charges those above rates, and he says it's a no-brainer for him when he's looking for something purely physical.

I asked him about the disease risk associated with his habit, and he retorted that at the price range of the ones he sees, they aren't that busy to begin with because they've essentially priced themselves out of most of the population, which after thinking about it, I can see where he's coming from. He added that in fact, if you bring home a girl from the club who makes it a habit of going home with a different guy a few times a month... you might be safer off looking to the escort.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

I'd blue square Thor for turning this friendly thread about some good and bad stories into something resembling a pissing match. Just on principle.

I remember when I was renting a 3 bedroom house with 11 other people (3 of us had job) I can upstairs from a pleasant evening of light social drinking and Wrestlemania to find a 3 or four total strangers doing blow on the living room table. Now, I'm sure one of my housemates knew these people, but they hadn't knocked when they came in or announced their presence when they got in. Nor had they aboded by the house rule of 'all drugs are done in the garage'.

Anyway, after recover from my initial shock and being thankful that they were just strangers doing drugs rather then strangers robbing the place I acknowledged them, said have a good night and went to bed. To this day no one admits to knowing these people.


Good times.

Agreed. I know first hand how drug abuse/dependence can rip apart relationships and destroy lives. There is no difference to me, between someone who abuses street drugs or gets them from the doctor's office with a prescription. It's irresponsible to endanger your life, but also the fact that drug use always comes between yourself and family/friends.

It's also a weakness. I am fully capable of living life to the fullest, both physically and psychologically, without having to rely on chemical highs.

Do what you want, but don't be so vile as to recommend the same experience to other people.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

I'd blue square Thor for turning this friendly thread about some good and bad stories into something resembling a pissing match. Just on principle.

Not his fault he has an unpopular position.

Going through his posts, I didn't see him attack or flame anyone while still supporting his positions. I mean, obviously XTC is a new thing to him and so there is a certain amount of hippie-speak in the posts, but I still stand by my point that I don't think the pissy-ness of this thread is from anything other than someone having an unpopular position. Not much to do with conduct here.

Although the bit about assuming everyone else in the world is a mindless drone of the government is a wee bit condescending.

[HelloHockeyFans]

To add, I've tried a lot of drugs... blow included, but I've quit every thing for over 6 years now with the exception of ecstasy laced with coke which I did last summer. I still see a ton of drugs at parties all the time, but I'm fortunate that I can say no and walk away from it without succumbing to the good memories.

Worst drug ever in my opinion - Weed. Don't understand the love for it... hate the smell, hate the headaches... never liked it.

Favourite drug I've tried - ecstasy laced with coke.

Have never tried heroin and definitely wouldn't touch that EVER.

As of last summer though, I've decided to quit X... the feeling while you're climbing is unrivaled in my opinion like I mentioned, but the recovery is garbage depending on the quality of the stuff and the risks associated with this kind of lifestyle is just not worth it once you grow up and have so much more you can lose for a few hours of fun.

I commend those who have never tried this stuff before. And to be honest, you never really know if you're going to get hooked to any of this stuff so don't buy the notion that "drug x" is not addictive if you can do it in moderation... the only way to find out is to try it, but you never know if the first shot gets you stuck for life or opens doors to other, more dangerous drugs.

Yes, I've done stuff before, but I would not recommend clean people to ever try any thing.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by HelloHockeyFans

Worst drug ever in my opinion - Weed. Don't understand the love for it... hate the smell, hate the headaches... never liked it.

You might be allergic.

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Not his fault he has an unpopular position.

I wasn't referring to his position. I was enojying the personal stories that were being told when I was blindsided with someone advancing an argument. Its like when you go to the bar with your buddies and a BSing about whatever, when someone goes and mentions politics. It ruined the threads mojo.

So now I need another hooker / blow story to offset my above complaining and dammit, I just can't think of a good one.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

So now I need another hooker / blow story to offset my above complaining and dammit, I just can't think of a good one.

If you're a DIYer you can go out and make your own!


Seriously, though--I had no idea what a square I was. I smoked pot a half dozen times in University, but I can honestly say I've never even seen cocaine and never spoken to a hooker.

Guess I've been going to the wrong parties..

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

I wasn't referring to his position. I was enojying the personal stories that were being told when I was blindsided with someone advancing an argument. Its like when you go to the bar with your buddies and a BSing about whatever, when someone goes and mentions politics. It ruined the threads mojo.

So now I need another hooker / blow story to offset my above complaining and dammit, I just can't think of a good one.

Ah, I see your point now.

And I agree.

[Jayems]

When I was living in Medicine Hat in MHC's res, I had a roommate who was completely deep into the drug scene there. I came home one day and there were a bunch of shady dudes in the kitchen and their wenches.... Turns out one of them was some drug kingpin (if that's what you want to call it) Anyway.. back to the story.

So I think nothing much of it, because, let's face it, nothing this guy did surprised me anymore. The very first day I met him, he had called the house to ask one of us to pick him up from cells. I was just counting down the days in the semester to come back to Calgary for the summer. In his defense, he was an incredibly nice guy, just did some bad stuff, and hung out with some bad dudes.

So they leave, day goes on, night comes, I hit the hay pretty early.

In the middle of the night... I hear random rumblings, some yelling... then someone yelling "Hammer down! Hammer Down!"

I didn't really think much of it, just thinking... they must be doing shots or whatever. So i go back and forth into sleep, and finally wake up to radios crackling downstairs.

I throw on some pants and head downstairs.

I come around the corner of the stair and see a whole bunch of cops, ems and firefighters in the kitchen. I look on the floor, and there is this hammer.

I look down, and the floor is just covered in blood, the kitchen is covered in blood, all my dishes are covered in blood.

Apparently, some crackheads decided to have a hammer fight in the kitchen, and then when other crackheads tried to intervene, they got smoked in the head too.

Guess who was really excited to have to clean it all up, because a certain someone was kicked out the next morning.

[pope04]

Jayems, that story is downright sad. Makes me glad I'm a square, dope wise. There was a guy I worked for that was into coke big time, but I had no idea. I loved to drink with him - we were into the bar scene pretty good - and, in retrospect, he was a pretty manic guy. He was in his early forties at the time, yet could stay up all night and party like he was seventeen.

He knew my poison came in longneck brown bottles, so he didn't push coke on me and I didn't know he used. He managed to stop cold turkey, but he had to send his girlfriend down to dry out in Santa Monica.

He's now sober, other than the odd splash of wine. He'll be sixty this spring.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by SarichFan

I don't care if this earns me a blue square.. I've smoked pot alot in the past and as mentioned above I've seen close family members **** up their life doing hard drugs.

If you think you're cool doing it, or even enjoy doing it, or plan to do it again in the future.. You are a ######.

Grow the **** up.

Alcohol is a drug. People do a lot of stupid bad stuff when drinking alcohol. Matter of fact one could take exactly what you said and apply it to alcohol. Am I right or am I wrong? Now stick to what you know and go drink some more coolers.

[Sparks]

Originally Posted by moon

I am not going to tell people to do it or not. And to suggest that drugs aren't as bad as they are portrayed is just plain stupid in my opinion.

Exactly, in your opinion. It depends on so many factors. Your blanket statements are just as illogical as blanket statements the other way (drugs are all good).

Drugs, when used in moderation (aka rarely) with people you know and trust, can be an entirely positive experience. I've had some wonderful times, without any negative impact on my life whatsoever. Everyone is different and knowing yourself is key.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Sparks

Exactly, in your opinion. It depends on so many factors. Your blanket statements are just as illogical as blanket statements the other way (drugs are all good).

Which blanket statements did I make?

[SarichFan]

Originally Posted by icecube

Alcohol is a drug. People do a lot of stupid bad stuff when drinking alcohol. Matter of fact one could take exactly what you said and apply it to alcohol. Am I right or am I wrong?

You are 100% wrong.

Comparing Alcohol to Coke is absoultely stupid. Yes Alcohol can be addictive to addictive personalities but it's hardly comparable.

People act stupid while drunk but Cocaine can ruin your life a hell of alot easier than some beers.

Again, i'd rather shoot myself in the head than do a line of coke because I have seen people close to me ruin their lives completely getting hooked on that stuff.

You're an idiot if you need to go that far to enjoy a moment of your life.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by SarichFan

Comparing Alcohol to Coke is absoultely stupid. Yes Alcohol can be addictive to addictive personalities but it's hardly comparable.

Why not?

If cocaine had the same advertising budget it wouldn't be looked at much differently than booze.

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by SarichFan

You are 100% wrong.

Comparing Alcohol to Coke is absoultely stupid. Yes Alcohol can be addictive to addictive personalities but it's hardly comparable.

People act stupid while drunk but Cocaine can ruin your life a hell of alot easier than some beers.

Again, i'd rather shoot myself in the head than do a line of coke because I have seen people close to me ruin their lives completely getting hooked on that stuff.

You're an idiot if you need to go that far to enjoy a moment of your life.

A little militant aren't we? I'm not trying to minimize your pain but honestly, everyone has had family members with drug problems. Doesn't mean that we have to go around calling everyone that experiments with drugs an idiot. Fact is everyone handles drugs differently and that's why you see such differing opinions in this thread.

As for the thread I haven't done either hookers or blow.

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Why not?

If cocaine had the same advertising budget it wouldn't be looked at much differently than booze.

I don't know about that. I would say coke is more addictive and more harmful than booze. Of course, if one's an alcoholic then alcohol is basically as bad as coke.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

I don't know about that. I would say coke is more addictive and more harmful than booze. Of course, if one's an alcoholic then alcohol is basically as bad as coke.

To tell you the truth, I don't know about it either. I thought it sounded cool though.

I have to answer no/no to the hookers/blow question, so I don't have any first hand experience with cocaine, but I'm well aware of what booze can do to a person. It can ruin your life, health, cost your your job and wife and all the rest of it, just like cocaine can. It may be a slower process and you can get your hooch wherever you look and everyone's doing it, but the same bad things that come with being a cokehead happen to the rubbies.

EDIT: I've had a few beers tonight, so I didn't notice I pretty much repeated what you said until after I posted it.