Plan a night with you and your wife, have your favorite CD's ready, a good meal, and make sure you won't be disturbed. Both drop some MDMA (Extacy) and have an amazing evening together.
Then tell me all illegal drugs are bad and you could never get anything from doing them..
Thank me later
I have no doubt that I may enjoy getting high, but alcohol is enough for me. I actually don't need alcohol to have a good time either, but it is fun nonetheless. Knowing how close I came to self destruction with alcohol is enough to scare me away from drugs which could be more damaging.
Its about falling for anti drug propaganda, I mean if you never ever done drugs how can you be so sure its not a positive experience or something 'gasp' you might even enjoy.
You have to be joking. Being told that drugs are bad for you and have ruined people directly and indirectly, as well as killed many, is only propaganda now?
To each his own for sure, but because I haven't tried drugs I can't know for sure that its bad for me?
In today's world of science, THAT is hilarious. Also, its wrong to be proud of not ruining one's health, life and well-being with needless cheap "thrills"? Shows you what society has become.
Before I get flamed for this, I'm not putting down or judging anyone who does choose to do blow or any other drugs or habits of any kind. Every one has the prerogative to do as they wish in today's world and thats a beautiful thing. But to be questioned/laughed at for being proud of not doing drugs? Just wow.
Plan a night with you and your wife, have your favorite CD's ready, a good meal, and make sure you won't be disturbed. Both drop some MDMA (Extacy) and have an amazing evening together.
Then tell me all illegal drugs are bad and you could never get anything from doing them..
Thank me later
Yeah this is pretty much a really stupid post. Drugs aren't for everybody nor should they be. I would never advocate anybody to use drugs ever. I did drugs it didn't have any affect on my personal life at all. However, I've seen it affect a lot of people negatively. To act like drugs are something cool or exciting is flat out stupid. So tell me which prescription drugs are more harmful than illegal street drugs (and I am not talking about marijuana) please provide some evidence, because I think you are buying into some "drugs are cool" propaganda". If there is a prescription drug that is given to someone it's because the side effects are less problematic than the patient living without treatment.
I don't care if this earns me a blue square.. I've smoked pot alot in the past and as mentioned above I've seen close family members **** up their life doing hard drugs.
If you think you're cool doing it, or even enjoy doing it, or plan to do it again in the future.. You are a ######.
Well if someone told you to get on a rollercoaster, something you had never done in your life... You choose NOT to go on this ride which your friend tells you is a really enjoyable experience, you are proud you didnt get on?
Well, if someone told me that they had this great experience on a rollercoaster, I'd look into it.
I'd soon find that:
1) there is a good chance the seat-restraints don't work
2) God knows who built it, or what "shoddy" parts they put in it
3) I might die
4) If I don't die (overdose on rollercoastering) I could have an urge to ride it every day, and an exorbitant cost
5) There's a chance I could alienate my friends, family and other loved ones just by riding this rollercoaster once
6) I could get arrested just by having a ticket to the ride
7) I could get refused a job because of said criminal record...
The list goes on and on and on.
If you're willing to take that roller-coaster, well, go ahead, that's your deal.
Me, well, I'm not so sure. But that's my deal.
But don't tell me I need to experience it because I don't know what I'm missing. Because I do. I'm missing out on a whole bunch of potential heartache, medical problems, monetary problems, crime, addiction...
Sure, I may be able to try it once, find out it's not my bag, then call it a day. Or, I could become helplessly addicted and completely ruin my life.
So, no. I choose not to take that roller-coaster of fate.
You have to be joking. Being told that drugs are bad for you and have ruined people directly and indirectly, as well as killed many, is only propaganda now?
Actually truth is always prefered to propoganda, unless you think you are unable to think for yourself, weight the risk/reward of any choices you make being driving a motor vehicle to smoking a joint.
As an adult, I'd like to think educated choices are important.
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To each his own for sure, but because I haven't tried drugs I can't know for sure that its bad for me?
It starts with research, there are a lot of websites which discuss the truthful effects of drugs, risks, addiction issues, etc... There is a ton of discussion on all aspects of it, some examples:
* Marijuana for terminal sufferers
* Magic Mushrooms for cluster headache sufferers
* MDMA (extacy) for powerful tool used by psychiatry to deal with severe cases of loss, depression, etc..
Obviously, no drug is safe. You have probably seen "talk to your doctor" about 1000 times in the last 1 month on TV. All drugs have risks and rewards.
The important thing I have and always will focus on is the fact drugs are not black/white. There is so little discussion and research done that those of us who are involved in the research side are shunned and ridiculed while the truth is we have and will find great things that can benefit our society.
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In today's world of science, THAT is hilarious. Also, its wrong to be proud of not ruining one's health, life and well-being with needless cheap "thrills"? Shows you what society has become.
A great number of drugs that are illegal harm you no more than driving a car, eating fatty foods, etc..
You dismiss drugs as cheap thrills, what then are the emotions involved with many of the things you enjoy, drinking, eating, fighting, loving, etc..
Society has become? Drugs of all kinds have been around since ancient times, in fact a great deal of religious experiences have a lot to thank from drugs
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Before I get flamed for this, I'm not putting down or judging anyone who does choose to do blow or any other drugs or habits of any kind. Every one has the prerogative to do as they wish in today's world and thats a beautiful thing. But to be questioned/laughed at for being proud of not doing drugs? Just wow.
As a young man I was a poster child of DARE, I was militantly against drugs. To the point where my best friend sat me down, told me that I was out to lunch and I needed to read and learn what I was supposedly in full belief of.
Since that day, I have run a very successful website which promotes truth about mushrooms, I have supported and been involved with Erowid, lyceaum, and other websites.
I was a part of pro mind media by Bob Wallace, one of the original Microsoft 12.
The more I talk to people from all walks of life, the more I realize how little people know about the risks of illegal drugs, and more discerningly to me the fact how little they know about the dangers of legal medication in circulation from the legal drug companies of this world.
To outright discount and throw away drugs because someone tells you so is not a positive thing, unless you have yourself read about the drug, its effects, risks, etc..
However a huge portion of our society would prefer to be told what to think and what to believe.
Just remember........
"ASK YOUR DOCTOR WHAT <insert legal drug>.... CAN DO FOR YOU..."
I guess you could ask the guy in the video what he now thinks about cocaine. I mean it was cocaine that indirectly led to his demise. Nothing like sleeping in your tent, in the jungle away from the country whose government you oppose and have them sneak across the border illegally and blow your ass away.
Every time you snort your coke, it's pretty much like having diamond from Sierra Leone. The amount of blood spilled over the last 30 years so you can get your high puts it in the same boat.
Selfish greed--at least find a vice that hasn't cost tens of thousands of people their lives and family.
/gets off high horse
Edit: oh the video is of Raul Reyes, former 2nd in command of the FARC, a guerrila/narcoterrorist group in Colombia.
Well, if someone told me that they had this great experience on a rollercoaster, I'd look into it.
I'd soon find that:
1) there is a good chance the seat-restraints don't work
2) God knows who built it, or what "shoddy" parts they put in it
3) I might die
4) If I don't die (overdose on rollercoastering) I could have an urge to ride it every day, and an exorbitant cost
5) There's a chance I could alienate my friends, family and other loved ones just by riding this rollercoaster once
6) I could get arrested just by having a ticket to the ride
7) I could get refused a job because of said criminal record...
You have just put up risk/reward. However can you judge risk/reward by listening to DARE or other propaganda machines that aren't giving you the whole truth?
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The list goes on and on and on.
If you're willing to take that roller-coaster, well, go ahead, that's your deal.
You've probably been on a rollercoaster, in fact probably a number of times. If I'm even more bold, I'd say that you'd recommend people who have never been on one to try it.
Even though there are a small percentage of roller coaster riders worldwide that die. There are even people who are considered thrill addicts who take great risks cliff jumping, skydiving, extreme skiing, etc..
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Me, well, I'm not so sure. But that's my deal.
But don't tell me I need to experience it because I don't know what I'm missing. Because I do. I'm missing out on a whole bunch of potential heartache, medical problems, monetary problems, crime, addiction...
I'm not telling you to experience it. I'm voicing the frustration of being told by people who have no idea what its about that I shouldn't do it, that I should be in jail for doing it, etc..
You assume a lot when you pick a side without researching why you have this opinion, mostly your opinion and that of most people is what you have been told and you take it as fact.
If you and a friend sat down and did MDMA tonight, you'd have more problems in your future from the food you eat daily and many other common issues than 1 night of your life experiencing something quite special.
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Sure, I may be able to try it once, find out it's not my bag, then call it a day. Or, I could become helplessly addicted and completely ruin my life.
Somehow you probably like most drank booze, and in your own life have seen how it can ruin people's lives. However like me you know its a tiny percentage of people who are destroyed by it. You like me took a somewhat educated risk and partake in it.
There is a tiny number of drugs that have the ability to hook you in 1 try, in fact if you are not someone who got addicted to booze after months of using it, the same will be said for most drugs. There are drugs with highly addictive rates, crack cocaine, crystal meth, cigarettes, opium based drugs, etc..
But again to my point, you weigh risk/reward with everything you do in life. Its much more likely driving a car will ruin your life, than trying MDMA one night with a few friends.
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So, no. I choose not to take that roller-coaster of fate.
I could end up snuffing gold paint.
I hear gold paint is terrific But my point originally is that people make up their mind without any real reason to believe the way they do. A great deal of what the average person knows about drugs is based on bad information and propaganda that never has attempted to tell you the truth, figuring you are too stupid to take the truth and make up your own mind.
I prefer to learn my own truth, and take safe risks since life is too short to play everything safe.
But to each his own, I'm not forcing anything down anyone's throat, I just will fight passionately to have people make up their own mind, not have someone tell them what to think or believe.
Every time you snort your coke, it's pretty much like having diamond from Sierra Leone. The amount of blood spilled over the last 30 years so you can get your high puts it in the same boat.
So you are upset by the illegal drug trade? Guess what, so am I. How does that involve use of a drug considered illegal as opposed to say other legal drugs which cause their own issues, not to mention all the shady sides of the pharmaceutical industry. It all goes down to risk/reward.
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Selfish greed--at least find a vice that hasn't cost tens of thousands of people their lives and family.
Greed is a proud word if you weren't aware in the USA and Canada. We routinely buy products made in 3rd world countries that risk/endanger people's limbs and even their lives.
Car companies do little in North America to become more fuel efficient, they fight mandates to add safety features that would save lives.. You could always look at consumer advocacy groups about how many lives are at risk because of manufacture and distribution of products in the USA/Canada that you buy every day without a 2nd thought.
Again, I remind that all drugs, legal, illegal, are a risk/reward debate. You can ask any psychologist this debate since honestly they deal with it more than anyone, and the vast majority of their issues they deal with are LEGAL prescription drugs.
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Edit: oh the video is of Raul Reyes, former 2nd in command of the FARC, a guerrila/narcoterrorist group in Colombia.
I'm not suggesting everyone tomorrow try cocaine.
I'm not suggesting Extacy is great for you.
I'm making the statement that most people do not have the risk/reward facts in making their choices in life. Be it for booze, marijuana, prescription drugs, etc..
If you truly research drugs of all kinds, illegal and legal like the big drug companies, you'd see the hype against them is a lot of hogwash.
I've never done recreational drugs. Never had an opportunity. Never been curious enough to seek an opportunity. Heck, I hardly even take stuff like Tylenol, cold medication. I think I've been on prescription drugs only a couple of times. I know I've never finished out the prescription.
Off topic, but you realize that's how you breed super bugs right? Finish your prescriptions!
If you truly research drugs of all kinds, illegal and legal like the big drug companies, you'd see the hype against them is a lot of hogwash.
Drugs are bad for you.
Physiologically, they are bad for your body - there really is no way around that. This is coming from a man who loves his drugs, and thus far is one of two people on this board who have copped to the hooker thing as well.
That's why you feel like a dog's ass the day after doing them, it's your body saying: oy! Jackhole! Don't do that to me again!
The flip side is that they can be very, very good for your psychological life.
Some people place a high value on their physical health - others seek as wide a range of experience in life as they can. Some people really shouldn't take drugs simply because they don't have the psychology to handle them. Unfortunately, a lot of people who shouldn't take them do. And then of course there are drugs that are so powerful that it doesn't matter what your psychological make-up is, they will probably take over and own you (see: crack, heroin).
While I personally feel that most people would benefit greatly from a little narcotic experimentation, I don't have an issue with anyone deciding they just don't want to.
wow this thread has turned into a bitching fest of people for and against drugs..
Just remember everyone has a right to choose, I don't look down towards anyone who has done drugs. Mainly because i like to smoke pot, I have snorted cocaine, not the best drug but for some reason I had to try it. I have never tried no hard drugs (crack Meth Heroin) I used to sell coke for 5 years but i have only tried it a handful of times.
I would rather smoke a joint and watch a movie and laugh my ass off then get all lit up and dig a hole in my cheek..
I met a guy on the bus one day (I refer to him has Cosmic Stan) and he told me that he doesn't do drugs. You go to a doctor and he gives you a prescription, and you go to the pharmacy and fill that prescription, those are drugs. He was a SUBSTANCE ABUSER!
Never done a hooker, or blow. The last time I smoked pot I became paranoid and was talking to my cousin and couldn't understand a word he was saying because all I could concentrate on was the sound of my heart. I was freaking out because my heart rate was increasing and making my whole body feel like it was beating.
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Who is in charge of this product and why haven't they been fired yet?
Never done a hooker, or blow. The last time I smoked pot I became paranoid and was talking to my cousin and couldn't understand a word he was saying because all I could concentrate on was the sound of my heart. I was freaking out because my heart rate was increasing and making my whole body feel like it was beating.
Yeah, that's when I went.. I don't like this anymore..
I certainly know what the heart palpatations feeling is like (wether they actually are clinical palpatations or not)! Its terrible because I'm still a regular pot smoker.
Almost my two year anniversary from quitting cigarettes though!
