[News] Waiver Wire Oct 2 - Prosvetov, Kerins clear. Avs claim Solovyov

[MacFlame]

Two 19 year olds have apparently made the big club. The flames arent holding anyone back.

Both goalies were not great this camp. Neither goalie outplayed the other. If one was to argue that Cooley was slightly outplayed, Cooley gets more rope because hes been with the organization longer. That shouldnt be a revelation. Quite frankly, if coaches only ever took training camps into the equation when evaluating a player, there would be many more vets from all clubs, including "star players" being placed on waivers all the time. But that would be silly. They have to take history with the organization into account, which is likely what happened here (which makes sense).

I expected Solo to make the top 6 this year. But, he didnt really stand out any more than anyone else at camp and.....hes 25. Disappointing, but , bubble NHL players are not hard to acquire. If the flames lose him, the flames will not have another problem finding another 25-27 year old #6/7 defenseman.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Also not keen on Solo getting snapped up either.

Team clogged up its blueline with nhl tweeners though so the numbers game was their own doing.

To be fair, Solo is probably an NHL tweener when all is said and done.

Not to mention he is currently an NHL tweener.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by D as in David

?

Gridin and Parekh are 19-year-olds who look to have made the team at the expense of vets. I don't understand your response.

I was agreeing with you...the complaints about young guys are funny when 2 19 year old make the team and a 23 year old gets "cut"

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Matthew Phillips for example

I said it before but Kerins reminds me a lot of Phillips. Older prospect where fan interest seems disproportionate to potential or skill, looks unimpressive even when putting up points, struggles at the NHL level.

I hope he turns out better than Phillips, but I don’t see any reason to worry about whether or not he gets claimed just yet. There are better prospects with far higher potential that are going to surpass him.

Phillips, Pelletier, Schwindt… the list of youngish players we’ve lost or given up and could later have gotten back for free keeps getting longer.

[Calgary Highlander]

Keeping Cooley to split starts with Wolf and go for a top 5 pick. 4D chess move by Conroy.

[dino7c]

Jakob Pelletier just cleared...I'm not a GM but I would take him over Kerins if I was

all this being said if Kerins clears he can come up and down for a month or whatever right? That might be good for him and the team...I certainly won't cheer against him.

[HighLifeMan]

Devin Cooley has been one of the worst goaltenders in NA professional hockey since his concussion. I’d argue he more so than anybody else needs time to find his game. The guy has had just six starts since the beginning of 2025 with a SV% over .900.

[Badgers Nose]

I hope they all get claimed so that we can move on.

Just a bunch of tweeners - not worth all the hand wringing.

Kerin is not strong enough because he either can't or won't put in the gym time.

Solo has not worked out despite tons of chances.

Prosvetov is, who the hell cares?

I hope we waive a few more guys.

[Badgers Nose]

... also, I am sure someone has already pointed this out, this is no guarantee that Cooley wins the b/u role.

CC might be working the phones trying to convert Miro into a goalie for all we know.

[Jiri Hrdina]

My view is that a lot of these guys were good early on which earned them the opportunity to play in more exhibition games.
And then they didn't take advantage of those opportunities including as the competition improved.
Except Gridin. Which is why he's still here.

I would not be surprised to see the Flames claim a goalie on waivers in the coming days.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

... also, I am sure someone has already pointed this out, this is no guarantee that Cooley wins the b/u role.

CC might be working the phones trying to convert Miro into a goalie for all we know.

Or closely watching the waiver wire...where all teams list their best players just to keep those lazy vets

[Monahammer]

Board "ridiculous, old tweeners aren't blocking young tweeners with upside from the nhl roster!!"
Coach: "we have too many old tweeners to give young tweener eith upside a spot on the roster"

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Board "ridiculous, old tweeners aren't blocking young tweeners with upside from the nhl roster!!"
Coach: "we have too many old tweeners to give young tweener eith upside a spot on the roster"

fake quotes really don't help your argument

The youngest and highest upside players in camp are still on the team anyway

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Board "ridiculous, old tweeners aren't blocking young tweeners with upside from the nhl roster!!"
Coach: "we have too many old tweeners to give young tweener eith upside a spot on the roster"

Monahammer: "Let me mis-represent what others on the board are saying as I often like to do to suit my narrative".

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Or closely watching the waiver wire...where all teams list their best players just to keep those lazy vets

Haha, come on now. (Whoops, missed the sarcasm, but I will leave this here for the others that legit feel that way)

You won't really miss any of these guys if they get claimed.

If Rory goes on to be the next Martin St Louis it will be because he learned from this experience and committed to being best conditioned guy in camp.

For this kind of money, and these stakes, how can any of these tweeners not have that mindset? He's had 3 years to figure it out, and the message has been consistent. You are too small and slow, get swole and work on your speed.

If they can't do it, fine. But for thoese who can and won't? #### them! #### them all the way to their job selling used cars in Wetaskowin.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Haha, come on now.

You won't really miss any of these guys if they get claimed.

If Rory goes on to be the next Martin St Louis it will be because he learned from this experience and committed to being best conditioned guy in camp.

For this kind of money, and these stakes, how can any of these tweeners not have that mindset? He's had 3 years to figure it out, and the message has been consistent. You are too small and slow, get swole and work on your speed.

I forgot green text...there might be a decent goalie on there though

[Steve's Stick]

Training camp with Huska really is largely a waste of time - Day 1, you could see this is the way it was written-up.

Only variances is keeping Gridin up (for now) and Cooley over Prosvetov as back-up (neither earned it).

Since he's determining the roster in the summer, maybe next year he can get the veterans in earlier so they don't look like horseshi*t with one exhibition game to go.

Bean didn't earn a spot, but after watching Parekh last night closely, Bean might be the best partner for him - ie a more veteran/defensively reliable guy with some offensive instinct to read what Parekh is trying to do.

Kirkland didn't earn a spot (Morton and Kerins were better), but he's the new Rooney.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Board "ridiculous, old tweeners aren't blocking young tweeners with upside from the nhl roster!!"
Coach: "we have too many old tweeners to give young tweener eith upside a spot on the roster"

The clown emoji really seems fitting here.

[ICRed]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I read it. Your argument was that the “precedent” that younger players stealing jobs was a farce.

Your evidence of that seemed to be that:
- Kerins stands a good chance of getting claimed
- Gridin is still on the squad
- Parekh is not NHL ready

Maybe you can educate the obtuse masses and explain what your point was or what you actually remember saying since it’s apparently gone so far over our heads.

Hey PepsiFree, cant we just talk? Let's relax a little.

I just stated Kerins I believe has a good chance of getting claimed. I'm not disappointed with the decision to send him down. He's not a 4th liner and he cant sit either.

Gridin is still with the squad. I assume he's being sent down eventually based on who is on waivers today, unless Huby is injured. I think on merit, he has earned a chance to stay regardless of injury trouble.

Zayne is staying, I believe we all agree thats a foregone conclusion. I don't think he's had a great camp, at least by his standard.

However I believe Kuzy, Solo, Bruz(to a lesser extent) had great camps. Heck even Cicek looked good.
Bean, Pachal and Miro didn't. They all remain with the team. I'm not even sure if they have a plan for poor Miro.
On merit, would I put one or all of those guys ahead of Zayne this year? Yes I would. Not popular I'm sure but thats what I think.

Draft pedigree and profile aside, I believe the guys in the AHL should have the inside track right now based on what they can provide the team today. I'm in no rush to see Zayne and want to give him all the time he needs. I'm just as excited as everyone to see him play. I assume there will be an ongoing assessment on Zayne through the first few games. We can always call those guys back up I suppose.
But If we're talking about what was earned strictly in camp though, there doesn't seem to be any meritocracy to it.

Also my point was vets sat around until all the rookies were basically cut. Now they all look behind it with only one pre season game to go. I don't like the way we structured our rosters this preseason. Vets sat around too long and didnt compete for anything. The bubble vets that did play, like Bean and Pachal, we all said before camp they needed to prove something as younger players are nipping at their heels. I dont think they proved anything frankly, we just went status quo.

[Matty81]

Flames have set their roster early... that's probably it for the forward cuts unless they decide to carry 8 dmen. Last cut has to be Miromanov or Bean?

I wouldn't mind both being cut and having a look at somebody different off the waiver wire to be honest I found them both to be a long ways off the level last year, I found them both hard to watch especially when paired together, someone like Matt Kessel from St. Louis who can no longer go to the AHL without waivers I think is better than either of them and has more upside