Let’s not forget that Hamonic made Brodie a huge whipping boy on this site. Whoever he was paired with was substantially better once they were moved away from him. Brodie and Hanifin played their best when not paired with Hamonic. Disastrous deal that weakened the prospect pool and made it tough for the Flames to make moves after as they were lacking key picks for multiple drafts.
In hindsight, yah, that was probably Tre's worst trade bar none. But at the time, it did make sense. I remember when that trade happened, I was excited for the possibilities. A good stay at home dman to play with Brodie and let him do his thing. Then you have Gio and Dougie as the top pairing. On paper it made a lot of sense.
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I've dealt with Hamonic several times before. Super polite, great to fans, and of course, very generous giving lots of time to kids who dealt with similar circumstances to him. Never heard anything negative about him during his time here.
Lots of smoke, but I'm going to put this in the 'mostly BS' department. It's going to take way more than a couple tweets to undo what I saw with my own eyes.
Good on you to not jump to conclusions or label a guy in a negative way.
I don't recall many fans being upset about Hamonic missing the bubble, but only because he was at best the #7 man on the depth chart by that point. The players might have had different thoughts though.
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In hindsight, yah, that was probably Tre's worst trade bar none. But at the time, it did make sense. I remember when that trade happened, I was excited for the possibilities. A good stay at home dman to play with Brodie and let him do his thing. Then you have Gio and Dougie as the top pairing. On paper it made a lot of sense.
I didn't like it simply because Brodie and Stone showed they had good chemistry. Perhaps it was a stretch to slot Stone into your top 4, but I thought it was an overpay for a "stay at home" guy on a "cheap" contract.
No secret that Travis has become a toxic locker room guy, we experienced it first hand when he wouldn't return to play for the Flames citing the health of his family (understandable at the time due to an high risk child)
But then the guy goes and does a 180 and refuses vaccines and the medicine behind it to the extent that he wont even show up for the start of the season on his new team.
Its either/or buddy, pick a side don't just float in the middle. I can tell you having a high risk kid myself, I was EAGER to get vaccinated ASAP so I could do w/e I could to keep my kid safe.
I don't know what happened but you could tell the Flames were over his bull#### and its no surprise Vancouver was too.
As others have mentioned, the pandemic brought out a side of people that can become grating. Like I heard of a guy in the office that was great for years but when covid happened, he changed. He couldn't just carry on with business as usual and every single day it was religious/conservative conspiracy theories and vaccine rants and complaints about the corporate covid policy that was a huge distraction to the team, etc. I did hear Hamonic already learned on the religous/conservative side prior to the pandemic but this is normal both in sports teams and regular business.
1- publicly requests a trade from his first team
2- bails on his next team when he is a pending UFA to not play in the bubble. The only guy in the league to do that
3- remains away from his next team because he is anti-vax
I am a bit of a sour Flames fan because he was such a waste of assets for this team and remains one of if not the biggest blunder of Teeliving’s time here.
Don't forget he also demanded a trade from Vancouver to the States immediately after signing with them so he didn't have to endure COVID anti vaxx restrictions.
So up until now he has played for 3 teams, requested to be traded twice and straight up quit on the other during the playoffs.
Ya, players are going to talk and any notion that he is or ever was a team guy is an illusion.
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I think we've all known seemingly normal people descend into political blackhole during the pandemic. It was one of those events that gave us insight into people's underlying make up that wasn't apparent before. Hamonic acted pretty strange with refusing to play or go with the flow due to his political beliefs, its not a surprise that made an impression on his teammates.
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Smear campaign is in full swing on HF. Surprised to hear that, as by all accounts he was an awesome stand up guy in the community and in the locker room. I don't think anybody here faulted him for what BT gave up for him, or his character. Not his faults the GM overpaid for him and he wasn't able to live up to the billing.
But as ^ said, the band-aid has been ripped off of society for who has wacky underlying beliefs that go against the grain of society and label you as "one of them". AKA anti-vax. We all have had that band-aid ripped of to reveal various friends, family and colleagues we once considered 'normal' to be part of that group. Obviously the NHL has a bunch of players like that and Hamonic appears to be part of that. With that in mind, it's not surprising it would make him an outcast in the locker room.
I heard a rumour that Hamonic was a bit of a fraud and wasn't well liked in the Flames room prior to him bailing on the playoffs. I almost posted about it then, but anyone saying anything bad about Hamonic was getting piled on, and I didn't feel like dealing with that.
The rumour I heard was in regards to him taking a lot of credit for charity work that he had little to nothing to do with while guys like Backlund and Gio do a ton of stuff behind the scenes and don't ask for any credit. Rubbed guys in the room the wrong way.
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How did Marc Methot decide that he needed to provide his comments on Hamonic? I looked and I don't think they've ever played on the same team before...
If you are man enough to rip a guy, lets at least put your name to it.
Its bush league stuff to do it anonymously.
And I would venture a guess that if Servalli was told this stuff, it wasnt by players but moreso by management and/or agent(s).
Servalli's not going to name guys that he talks to and out them as his sources. Just going to get those guys in trouble the next time he has an inside scoop about that team and the GM rips those players a new one whether they're involved or not, because they're known to be buddy-buddy with the press. Always keep them anonymous, no matter what the story is
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How did Marc Methot decide that he needed to provide his comments on Hamonic? I looked and I don't think they've ever played on the same team before...
Co-hosts a Senators podcast, it was discussed on there and that's where he made the comments
In the off-season, players go back to whatever hometown they come from and train with other local NHLers/ minor pros/ collegians/juniors. Hockey is a small town in many respects. Word gets around.
In the off-season, players go back to whatever hometown they come from and train with other local NHLers/ minor pros/ collegians/juniors. Hockey is a small town in many respects. Word gets around.
Plus, he just got traded to a team whose captain is the brother of one of Hamonic's teammates for 3 seasons. I'm sure he has heard some stories.
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Sounds like Vancouver wanted to get rid of him, and no one else wanted him....how does Ottawa end up giving up a 3rd? Perplexing that future considerations wasn't enough.
