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Old 06-25-2019, 08:12 AM   #101
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Talbot would be a risky move if we didn't witness the nonsense he was expected to play through. Kotsinem will likely demonstrate for us this year just how good of a job Talbot was doing all things considered. He had a fantastic year, but everyone commented that he must be exhausted. They took that exhausting year, and put a worse team on the ice infront of him. I think he honestly just gave up

I'd hoped we'd see something like this in the off-season but thought we'd lost it in the Philly trade. He's a guy that I can see rebounding, and rebounding hard against the Pylons. Having a goalie that can perform the way we saw a few years ago, this time infront of an actual defence, that also has a passion to wreck the Oilers? I really hope this gets done.
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I hope it happens, just for the butthurt out of Shelbyville when he bounces back in Calgary.

but in all seriousness, what's not to like if it's a 1 year prove it deal? I feel good about a Rittich/Talbot tandem that's eager to prove that they deserve to be a #1.
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I hope it happens, just for the butthurt out of Shelbyville when he bounces back in Calgary.

but in all seriousness, what's not to like if it's a 1 year prove it deal? I feel good about a Rittich/Talbot tandem that's eager to prove that they deserve to be a #1.
That would be ideal, but extremely unlikely.
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That would be ideal, but extremely unlikely.
post #98 says otherwise.
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Yeah i read the tweet...im just not convinced.

Again though, that would be great and maybe he has a motivation to stick it to the Oilers that is greater than his desire to make as much on this deal as he can.
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Hopefully this team is exploring every goaltender in the AHL as well. Binnington went straight from the American league to the NHL and ended up winning a Cup and was nominated for the Calder.

I honestly believe top AHL goaltenders might make better goaltenders than the current NHL options available to us. Their contract demands probably wouldn’t be outrageous either.


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I would be totally fine with this. An opportunity to play for a team that finished 2nd overall last season with an unproven starting goaltender he should view this as his best chance of getting his career back on track. If he can go back to his play of two years ago it's a win for both sides. If not then rinse and repeat next offseason for the organization.
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Not sure I'm a fan of a 1 year deal. Goalie market doesnt get better next off season and truthfully I'm worn out with this goalie carousel we have had since Kipper retiring
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Hopefully this team is exploring every goaltender in the AHL as well. Binnington went straight from the American league to the NHL and ended up winning a Cup and was nominated for the Calder.

I honestly believe top AHL goaltenders might make better goaltenders than the current NHL options available to us. Their contract demands probably wouldn’t be outrageous either.


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Not a lot to choose from though without making a trade.

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/goaltender/ufa/

I have no doubt that BT has asked his pro scouts for all the info they have on every guy down there though.
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I would be willing to give him a go for this season. If you look over the goalies that are available, and the price that some of them will be asking, then there are not a great deal of options. It would be great if we could develop our own starter but for now this is the road we have to go down.
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Not sure I'm a fan of a 1 year deal. Goalie market doesnt get better next off season and truthfully I'm worn out with this goalie carousel we have had since Kipper retiring
There really are no other options unless you want to pay 65 million for Bobrovsky. Have to develop a goalie in house eventually.
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I thought Varlamov would be the obvious target for a while, but have heard nothing associated with him and the Flames what so ever.
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A good idea, but also means that Calgary might be shopping for another goalie YET AGAIN next year. However, it does mean that Talbot probably comes cheap, which is good for a team that needs to pay their RFAs.

I just wish Treliving would find a long-term solution already. It may not be fair because I bet he's been trying, but it sure seems like it's constantly been the achilles heel of these teams.
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Old 06-25-2019, 09:05 AM   #114
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^ Only if Talbot fails IMO

If Talbot comes in and gives us what we saw in the Edmonton playoff run I'll bet we stop the carousel for a few years until Rittich/Parsons/Gillies/Other start pushing for a spot. He looked very good, and definitely as good as Calgary will need to do some damage this time around.

I'd think that on a 1-year we're giving Rittich and Talbot the opportunity to develop a solid tandem or take the reigns themselves. Given the cap, how the playoffs ended and Tkachuk I think Tre is best staying away from any high-priced proven options this year.

Something like Talbot is as confident as we can be in the goalie that Tre needs to find with the cash he has. There's actually potential in Talbot becoming a long-term solution, but hopefully he doesn't have to make that commitment to Cam this year.
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^ Only if Talbot fails IMO

If Talbot comes in and gives us what we saw in the Edmonton playoff run I'll bet we stop the carousel for a few years until Rittich/Parsons/Gillies/Other start pushing for a spot. He looked very good, and definitely as good as Calgary will need to do some damage this time around.

I'd think that on a 1-year we're giving Rittich and Talbot the opportunity to develop a solid tandem or take the reigns themselves. Given the cap, how the playoffs ended and Tkachuk I think Tre is best staying away from any high-priced proven options this year.

Something like Talbot is as confident as we can be in the goalie that Tre needs to find with the cash he has. There's actually potential in Talbot becoming a long-term solution, but hopefully he doesn't have to make that commitment to Cam this year.
Sure, but if he performs well on a show-me deal, then you have to pay him. Are we sure we would want to have Talbot here long term as a starter? I'm not. No, chances are we would let him go either way unless he was just good enough to be the backup, but not good enough to be the starter.
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Hopefully this team is exploring every goaltender in the AHL as well. Binnington went straight from the American league to the NHL and ended up winning a Cup and was nominated for the Calder.

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Who do you have in mind? I suspect that most—If not all—the top AHL goalies are either under contract or have their rights controlled by NHL clubs. For every Jordan Bennington there are 30 Tristan Jarrys.


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so you're saying his play only fell off a cliff because of substance abuse.
It's the loudest secret in Edmonton. Yes.
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Sure, but if he performs well on a show-me deal, then you have to pay him. Are we sure we would want to have Talbot here long term as a starter? I'm not. No, chances are we would let him go either way unless he was just good enough to be the backup, but not good enough to be the starter.
In any event, the Flames are going to have more cap flexibility next year with a number of contracts coming off the books. I would bet that the plan is to audition Talbot for the starting job while simultaneously anticipating that Rittich will take another step. It’s a good gamble that one of them will emerge as the solution beyond next year.


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I was comparing Gillies to Talbot's career trajectory. It's an example of how late goalies come into their own. It's rough...they were in different leagues at different times. Talbot's last AHL season was when he was 26....Gillies is 25. Gillies 22 year old season was a lost season due to hip surgery and last season was brutal. I hope we don't give up on him.

Talbot's college years were 21,22 and 23 where Gillies were 19, 20, and 21.

I lined up age on left with save percentage for each at that age.


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19 0.908 0.931
20 0.918 0.931
21 0.860 0.930
22 0.907 0.920
23 0.925 0.910
24 0.902 0.917
25 0.913 0.889
26 0.918
27 0.941
28 0.926
29 0.917
30 0.919
31 0.908
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If Talbot takes the reigns and proves himself a starter again then yes, why wouldn't the Flames sign him. To this point Rittich has promise but shouldn't be promised anything.
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