[PGT] Canucks 5 Flames 3

[bubbsy]

Which goal given up by Smith are people actually upset about?? All goals seemed unstoppable other than the Vanek shot, but that was a damn good shot.

I do find it unreal how well the opposing goalies have done on this homestand. It's been high light reel after high light reel.

Flames gotta be due for some goals off bodies, legs, skates right??

[activeStick]

Utter domination by Calgary for the first 40. Great game for Markstrom and he was the difference. It happens sometimes, not even mad.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Flames played well but Markstrom played better. Not much you can do there.

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Now, let the hysteria ensue

We could be less sloppy for one. The Vanek goal was on Tkachuk. He had a chance to clear it at the blue line, and instead does a cutesy little chip play to no one and it's intercepted.

2nd goal, Brodie's weak ass backhander. He had the time and space, to turn around and pass it forward. However that was on Smith too, way over committing to Sutter.

Take those two goals out and the Flames would still have the momentum, and at the last, would still be a tie game.

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Half the goals were straight up fluke shows is the point

Our sloppy play allowed them to score.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

People calling for the coach to be fired, what do you expect him to do?

People suggesting he ride his top lines. That doesn't work in the modern NHL. This is an 82 game season, you can't burn out players in November, it's short sighted. All four lines need to contribute. If the third and fourth line can't handle ~12 minutes a game, they need to play better. That's the reality. If they can't then this team can't succeed anyway.

I'm sure the 2nd and 3rd lines can handle getting 17 minutes a night.

You really think Gaudreau and Monahan are the best conditioned players on the team?

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by zamler

So there's NO scenario where your "best player" gets taken out of the game? Do you even watch hockey?

First off that is not even close to what I said.

Secondly yes I watch hockey, I play hockey, I coach hockey, I played division 2 hockey if we want to be specific. Does that make me more knowledgeable about the game then you? Nope it doesn’t. But hopefully it does answer your pathetic attempt to belittle me with the “do you even watch hockey” comment.

Carry on and maybe step off the ledge a bit.

[Jore]

Originally Posted by bax

Courtesy of Steinberg... 5v5 possession of 62.2% for the Flames and high danger chances were 15-8 in favour of the Flames.

and 5 on 5 expected goals for (based on quality and quantity of chances) was 71.38%. the result is a travesty based on how they played. just some of the usage decisions were baffling. flashback to the anaheim series

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Which goal given up by Smith are people actually upset about?? All goals seemed unstoppable other than the Vanek shot, but that was a damn good shot.

I do find it unreal how well the opposing goalies have done on this homestand. It's been high light reel after high light reel.

Flames gotta be due for some goals off bodies, legs, skates right??

The short handed goal was way over committed. He’s starting to make a habit of that lately and it needs to stop. He needs to be more selective of when he comes out of his net. He just missed getting burned earlier in the game on that.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

People calling for the coach to be fired, what do you expect him to do?

People suggesting he ride his top lines. That doesn't work in the modern NHL. This is an 82 game season, you can't burn out players in November, it's short sighted. All four lines need to contribute. If the third and fourth line can't handle ~12 minutes a game, they need to play better. That's the reality. If they can't then this team can't succeed anyway.

I expect him to do his job. Shortened benches work all the time, these are pro athletes. It's not short sighted to sit your crappy 4th line at home when you have last change at all.

What level of coaching are you offering this opinion from?

[GoJetsGo]

The real travesty here is Johnny should have had 5 points tonight.

He's been one of the best players in the league so far this season.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Not sure why you would post these, the Canucks played a better game.
To be quiet honest - what have the Flames done since 89? It seems like an Oiler thing to do by posting the 0 cups thing.

It was joke to get people to laugh a bit after a tough loss. You know, making fun of your opponent.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by bax

Courtesy of Steinberg... 5v5 possession of 62.2% for the Flames and high danger chances were 15-8 in favour of the Flames.

Not a big advanced stat guy, but that definitely falls in line with the eye test of the game.

Flames doubled up with high end scoring chances but they didn't finish enough, Canucks were opportunist with their chances.

I've been crapping on this team on game days plenty, but other than a few bone head plays, they deserved better.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

I expect him to do his job. Shortened benches work all the time, these are pro athletes. It's not short sighted to sit your crappy 4th line at home when you have last change at all.

What level of coaching are you offering this opinion from?

Levels lower than GG, which I suspect is the same level as you so let's cut out that argument.

You don't think GG knows that his top line is better than his fourth line? By that logic why manage minutes at all. Why don't they just keep the first line out all game? It's the coaches job to manage his bench to have them play at their optimum level. He also has to consider an 82 game schedule. I assume he's in a better position to make that decision than I am.

[Racki]

Tough one to lose - Flames were so dominant for 40 minutes. Hockey is like that sometimes though, every chance the Canucks had ended up in the back of the net.

Smith is tired. He looks shaky. He doesn't seem to be getting set, if you watch closely he's jumpy - almost like every shot is getting on him before he sees it.

It offends me as a paying customer that #44 is on the ice. How does our professional coaching staff not identify the problem?

[Huntingwhale]

Good game, but pooey ending.

[The Familia]

Bennett has to go. 0 points in 15 games is truly unacceptable for the money he makes. There are career AHL’ers who have been called up for a couple games this season with more points then Sam. There is literally no excuse. I would trade him now while there is a little value attached to him. He has been a bust, time to move on.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Levels lower than GG, which I suspect is the same level as you so let's cut out that argument.

You don't think GG knows that his top line is better than his fourth line? By that logic why manage minutes at all. Why don't they just keep the first line out all game? It's the coaches job to manage his bench to have them play at their optimum level. He also has to consider an 82 game schedule. I assume he's in a better position to make that decision than I am.

So your logic is that he doesn't want to play his 2nd and 3rd line more to not tire them out but will play the 1st line 20 minutes?

Shorten the bench. It's ridiculous that this is a problem that has to be brought up.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

You don't think GG knows that his top line is better than his fourth line? By that logic why manage minutes at all. Why don't they just keep the first line out all game? It's the coaches job to manage his bench to have them play at their optimum level. He also has to consider an 82 game schedule. I assume he's in a better position to make that decision than I am.

It's his timing that I don't understand, it seems like when the Flames need something to happen he puts out the worst possible combination, like he's burning up minutes just for the sake of it. Find other times in games to fill out the minutes.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

Our sloppy play allowed them to score.

It was the Canucks taking full advantage of the limited opportunities they got. Our play overall wasn't that sloppy and for the most part we dominated the game and lost to a hot gaoltender. You're going to get games where you make a few mistakes and the other team capitalises.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

I expect him to do his job. Shortened benches work all the time, these are pro athletes. It's not short sighted to sit your crappy 4th line at home when you have last change at all.

What level of coaching are you offering this opinion from?

It seems on a GG team there are cemented rules that he will not break no matter the game situation. His 4th line and 3rd d pairings get way more time than they should, and at key times.

GG seems like the most stubborn coach of all time. It's like he refuses to win unless it's his one specific way. Super frustrating.