The 2016 US American Election Thread

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Actually that's sort of the thing, it's been him running his mouth about what an amazing charity case he is that has gotten him into trouble here since it started the look into the Trump Foundation. The Foundation itself appears to be nothing but a slush fund. Did they cross examine Trump's taxes against the Foundations? We'll see I guess if there's more to come out of this. If they haven't I'd say he's pretty well ####ed now.

Yep, I think it's more about what else the tax returns would show.

And it doesn't matter if the average people would understand it or not because there are people who could understand it that would also be combing over it.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Yep, I think it's more about what else the tax returns would show.

And it doesn't matter if the average people would understand it or not because there are people who could understand it that would also be combing over it.

Like creditors.

[Frequitude]

Annnnd he doubles down on his comments about that beauty contestant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mepage%2Fstory

NEW YORK — Donald Trump launched a deeply personal attack Tuesday morning on Alicia Machado, the 1996 Miss Universe winner who has accused him of calling her "Miss Piggy" and "Miss Housekeeping" because she's Latina.

During an interview on Fox News on Tuesday morning, Trump brought up Machado on his own and launched into an attack on her credibility, saying that she had "attitude" and was a "real problem" for Miss Universe officials.

"She was the worst we ever had. The worst. The absolute worst. She was impossible," Trump said. "... She was the winner, and she gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem. We had a real problem."

I mean, I shouldn't be surprised, but I am.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I've seen a bevy of mentions about this, but considering Trump says he doesn't pay people unless they do a good job, are we about to see a spike in people not paying when they go to Trump properties? Trump himself says its cool not to pay in that situation after all.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I've seen a bevy of mentions about this, but considering Trump says he doesn't pay people unless they do a good job, are we about to see a spike in people not paying when they go to Trump properties? Trump himself says its cool not to pay in that situation after all.

I'm going to be extremely disappointed now if we don't.

EDIT:

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/09/27...om-county-fair

A Pennsylvania fair vendor, who turned out to be a registered sex offender, was booted from the event after visitors complained that he was selling Nazi flags.

Visitors to the Bloomsburg Fair, which started Saturday, posted photos of the vendor’s flags on the fair’s Facebook page. The photos showed a red-and-white flag with a black swastika draped from one side of a booth and a flag endorsing Donald Trump and declaring “Make America Great Again” on the other side.

I'm pretty sure this guy gives you Trump Supporter Bingo.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Ducay

a multi-billion dollar real estate, property management company

Is it? We only have his word on that.

[bubbsy]

ugh, so sad i haven't been able to listen to fox news today. so i decided to go to their website instead.

Here are the 'top story' links:

• FLASHBACK VIDEO: Flashback: Trump voices reservations about invasion of Iraq
• IN THE TANK? 6 ways Lester Holt helped Hillary in debate | GLOVES OFF: Trump vows to 'hit her harder' next time
• VIDEO: Clinton and Holt against Trump? | TRUMP ON COKE? Sniffles prompt bizarre charge from Howard Dean
• TODD STARNES: If Trump's record on women is fair game, then so is Hillary's, plus 5 more debate takeaways
• PRIMETIME LINEUP: Watch post-debate coverage on Fox News Channel
• CAMPAIGN 2016 LIVE BLOG: Clinton posts backstage picture from debate on Twitter
• AND THE WINNER IS...? Online votes declare Trump debate winner, despite media consensus for Clinton
• VIDEO: Did Trump, Clinton change hearts, minds or votes in debate?
• VIDEOS: Trump reacts to first face off with Clinton | Full first presidential debate
• HOLLYWOOD WEIGHS IN: Celebs react to first debate

[Senator Clay Davis]

Lol.....

Trooper Rick Johnson
‏@wspd2pio
WSP Motorcycle Trooper Greg Ulrich stopped a vehicle this morning NB 167 in Auburn for violating the HOV lane. Do you know why ?

https://twitter.com/wspd2pio/status/780805596182261760

[photon]

I didn't catch it during the debate but Trump called Obama "your president". Afterwards when someone asked him about it he said he's everyone's president but the in-the-moment remark gives a look into how he thinks.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by photon

I didn't catch it during the debate but Trump called Obama "your president". Afterwards when someone asked him about it he said he's everyone's president but the in-the-moment remark gives a look into how he thinks.

He's my African American.

[Swarly]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I've seen a bevy of mentions about this, but considering Trump says he doesn't pay people unless they do a good job, are we about to see a spike in people not paying when they go to Trump properties? Trump himself says its cool not to pay in that situation after all.

funny enough I have a couple friends who just booked a trip to Vegas for this December, they used the priceline mystery hotel feature where you book for a cheap price not finding out until after which hotel it is. Turns out they got the Trump hotel and they immediately called trying to cancel but they couldn't. Their plan is to complain while there and refuse to pay due to sub-standard service, à la Trump.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Swarly

funny enough I have a couple friends who just booked a trip to Vegas for this December, they used the priceline mystery hotel feature where you book for a cheap price not finding out until after which hotel it is. Turns out they got the Trump hotel and they immediately called trying to cancel but they couldn't. Their plan is to complain while there and refuse to pay due to sub-standard service, à la Trump.

They should offer to pay 30 cents on the dollar, that sounds like Trump's standard rate.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I think if he was committing fraud, you would have heard about it by now, or it would have gotten out somehow. Plus, you'd have to be committing some magic fraud to reduce your tax liability via fraud on $600+ million income to nil.
Its all likely shelters, estates, and trusts that get him out of the taxes (for now), but again, looks bad to Joe Q. Public, but good on him.

Its the same thing with offshore companies. Public acts like its committing murder, smart people think its smart. Legal tax avoidance is something everyone should be thinking about.



You would probably not learn all that much from the tax returns (honestly, you'll learn a lot more from all the financial disclosures he's already made). Hillary implied in the debate the taxes would show he might not be wealthy (again, not what tax returns are for).

His son actually gave a very candid answer to this. Releasing the tax returns would provide very little new good information, and would just become a distraction because there is a lot in there that can be taken the wrong way and made to look bad (like Hillary already has).

I'm sure he has some skeletons in his closet and tax returns, but that is half of his appeal.

Well, you are certainly taking him at his word. The Politifact fact-checkers would disagree with that assessment.
For me the main issue with the tax returns, concern his use of charitable donations (or lack thereof). Tax returns don't necessarily prove he is wealthy or not, but it would certainly provide more clarity on his income, as distinct from his companies' or his charitable foundation.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I think if he was committing fraud, you would have heard about it by now, or it would have gotten out somehow. Plus, you'd have to be committing some magic fraud to reduce your tax liability via fraud on $600+ million income to nil.
Its all likely shelters, estates, and trusts that get him out of the taxes (for now), but again, looks bad to Joe Q. Public, but good on him.

Its the same thing with offshore companies. Public acts like its committing murder, smart people think its smart. Legal tax avoidance is something everyone should be thinking about.



You would probably not learn all that much from the tax returns (honestly, you'll learn a lot more from all the financial disclosures he's already made). Hillary implied in the debate the taxes would show he might not be wealthy (again, not what tax returns are for).

His son actually gave a very candid answer to this. Releasing the tax returns would provide very little new good information, and would just become a distraction because there is a lot in there that can be taken the wrong way and made to look bad (like Hillary already has).

I'm sure he has some skeletons in his closet and tax returns, but that is half of his appeal.

You're quite wrong. There's actually quite a lot of information about how much he makes, how much he gives, where he spends his money and most importantly, how much he's exposed financially to unfriendly foreign money

[Senator Clay Davis]

That words spoken one is amazing. 1,700 more words in only 3 more minutes of speaking time? Hot air indeed.

[Kybosh]

That clearly shows that Trump does indeed have the best words.

[calumniate]

I'd love to see a 'words repeated' counter

[troutman]

Debate Word Clouds for each candidate:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/201...-words-n655171

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by troutman

Debate Word Clouds for each candidate:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/201...-words-n655171

What is the point of these things. Just ridiculous.

[octothorp]

Americans can vote on questions for the town hall debate. CNN and ABC have said they will 'consider' the top 30 questions for inclusion.

https://presidentialopenquestions.com/?sort=-votes