How not to start NHL training camp (Josh Ho-Sang)

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by jayswin

He likely would have had a roommate, but if he's anything like what past teammates/coaches/GM's have suggested I wouldn't be surprised if a rival training camp attendee looked at him laying there, laughed, and left for practice, haha.

Originally Posted by 420since1974

I read somewhere else today that his roommate tried to wake him but gave up.

The Isles aren't blaming the roommate.

Given what we know I'm willing to bet my post is closer to the truth. He just seems like the jerk teammate that everyone hates, and if you really want to wake someone up for such an important day, you shove them a bit and they wake up, and at the very least you resort to a shove as you're heading out the door and you know he's ****ed.

I'm sure he looked at him sleeping through his alarm and went "Haha, you just ****ed yourself buddy", and then gave a heartfelt "I tried everything to wake him coach", followed by management saying "Don't worry kid, this isn't your problem, this is on Josh".

[transplant99]

Snow would not elaborate on the punishment, but a team source told Newsday that Ho-Sang was forced to run the stairs at Nassau Coliseum for three hours on Friday before the general manager verbally dressed down Ho-Sang and sent him back to Niagara of the Ontario League.

"He's obviously very talented, but talent isn't the issue," Snow told Newsday. "It's about becoming a professional and acting like one. Hopefully he takes this lesson and learns from it. It's really up to him now -- we can't do anything else for him in this area."

"The situation that took place for me is unacceptable. I can say after the conversation that took place, he knows exactly where he stands," coach Jack Capuano said after the Isles' second day of training camp. "Garth was brutally honest with him and now it's up to him."

"It's your first day of NHL camp and you're not here at all . . . I don't see that," Tavares said. "I don't get how you don't have 3-4 alarms set, how you're not jumping at that first opportunity to show what you need to show. I know how highly the organization views him, too."

yeah... he has pissed off everyone in that organization.


http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ang-1.10863651

[JiriHrdina]

Any comment from Ho-Sang himself yet?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Any comment from Ho-Sang himself yet?

Something along these lines I assume

[Dion]

If the Spitfires were forced to trade him it makes me wonder if this kid is beyond repair and any attempts to get him to change his ways will be futile. You'd think the message would have sunk in by now but it appears it hasn't.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

He'll have 100 million in the bank by the time he's 35, no doubt.

A hundred million rubles that is....

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by the2bears

I meant "very few" as a relative term. But what's your point? I don't think sleeping in is an acceptable excuse in his case. Allow him to learn from this and hope he does (if you're him, and the Isles).

Before all this other news came out on him I was just thinking it was an honest mistake. I don't think it's an acceptable exuse unless you have an illness etc. I remember what it was like before cell phones were everywhere and times I slept through my alarm. I was just trying to emphasize with a 19 yr old kid thats all.

I remember one time when I was pulled off a train by the transit cops in Calgary because I couldnt find a my ticket within 4 seconds after asking for it. I found it immediately after I had been escorted off the train. It would have been my first day at a new job and it cost me that opportunity. We didnt have all the details at the t8me so I gave the kid a break because #### happens .

I also was trying to say that in yor whole life you have never made a huge mistake that cost you ? No bodys perfect but with the new info at hand my opinion has changed.

I was trying to emphasize because we dont know why he missed his alarms. If it was for something like he took the red eye/ late night ride in thought he could just take a nap etc. I just wasn't trying to be one of those guys to jump at the opportunity to teash a kid right away. The world is filled with enough people who will tear you down at a drop of a pin.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by 420since1974

I read somewhere else today that his roommate tried to wake him but gave up.

The Isles aren't blaming the roommate.

Didnt try hard enough apparently lol then again why would you your competing for a job against him.

Seriously tho It's not the roomates job but I would have thrown an ice bucket of water on him for his sake. My dad started doing that to me once I got into high school . Trust me that does wake you up. I got a 5 minute warning once my alarm clock went off. I made aure I was up every day right after the first alarm went off after yhe first time. Snooze button was not an option. That was before cellphones tho.

[Camronius]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I was just trying to emphasize with a 19 yr old kid thats all.

I remember one time when I was pulled off a train by the transit cops in Calgary because I couldnt find a my ticket within 4 seconds after asking for it. I found it immediately after I had been escorted off the train. It would have been my first day at a new job and it cost me that opportunity. We didnt have all the details at the t8me so I gave the kid a break because #### happens .

I was trying to emphasize because we dont know why he missed his alarms. If it was for something like he took the red eye/ late night ride in thought he could just take a nap etc. I just wasn't trying to be one of those guys to jump at the opportunity to teash a kid right away. The world is filled with enough people who will tear you down at a drop of a pin.

This type of thinking is such a joke though. If a 30 minute delay in your morning makes you 20 minutes late for one of the most important days in your life, you've done something wrong. Any intelligent person understands that sh@&# happens. Any intelligent person also makes sure they plan accordingly so that if it does happens they still are on time.

[Chingas]

^This is over the top in my opinion.
I can't wait to sign up for one of your perfect time management seminars for non-intelligent people.

[Schultzie]

I'd probably sleep in too.

[Camronius]

Originally Posted by Chingas

^This is over the top in my opinion.
I can't wait to sign up for one of your perfect time management seminars for non-intelligent people.

Ha. I'm late all the time. Guess whose fault that is? I've never been late for an interview, first day, or anything that I valued really important. Anyone who sides with it being acceptable to be late on the first day of training camp, needs to evaluate who is really at fault here. You can blame circumstance, but it's your fault for not planning ahead.

If there is something serious where you were delayed hours, sure I'm aware there are edge cases. As stated if your 20 minutes late because you were delayed 1/2 hour, I'm sorry but that isn't special time management that requires any sort of course to learn, that's just common sense.

[transplant99]

Yeah #&it happens....and the reason it happened this time is because of Josh Ho-Sang. He, and only he, is responsible for his waking up on time, making planes on time, being at dinner on time...etc. To suggest otherwise is patently wrong unless circumstances occurred out of his control. That is not the case here in any way, shape, or form.

The kid doesn't get it...at all. He has had this reputation since before he was drafted as a bantam.

The quotes of his coach, his GM and Tavares tells you all you need to know in this case. He is a "me me me" guy who does not have any respect for the concept of team, process, nor anyone/anything else outside his immediate circle.

The worst part is that he seemingly just doesn't care about it either.

It's the old cliché...million dollar tools locked inside a 2 dollar tool box.

[dustygoon]

I honestly hope he sorts his stuff out just enough to make it to the NHL. I bet there are some teams that think a few years later, he will have matured enough to tolerate his BS in exchange for his talent. And then we can sit back and rubber neck at the silliness. Talking to a stack of cash in Vegas like its a phone will seem so boring.

[pgsieve]

I didn't like him before not liking him was cool. I said it before and I'll say it again. I hope this has implications in a world junior invite. There are certain people I really don't think deserve to wear our country's jersey and represent us internationally with that kind of attitude

[saillias]

I wonder if he has narcolepsy

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by saillias

I wonder if he has narcolepsy

Just narcissism, I think.

[sureLoss]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ers/1.10864784

ST. CATHARINES, Ontario -- Not setting an alarm clock is what came between Joshua Ho-Sang and a chance of making the Islanders' roster, the 19-year-old prospect said after his Ontario League team's 2-1 preseason loss Saturday night.

Ho-Sang, a day after Islanders general manager Garth Snow sent him back down to the OHL for oversleeping the Isles' first day of training camp, was all apologies after returning to the Niagara IceDogs.

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"Obviously a lot more people found out about my mistake than other people's daily ones, but I definitely take ownership," Ho-Sang said with a bag of ice over his slashed knee and drained look on his face. "I don't think there's anyone to blame . . . it's embarrassing."

Ho-Sang said he believed it was fitting for the Isles to cut him from camp after being late and that it was like a punishment for doing badly at any job. The message would be sent more clear to him by cutting him, he said. He hadn't set an alarm the entire week prior to oversleeping for the team shuttle and that he had relied on a front desk call or roommate to wake him up.

"Neither of that happened [Friday]," Ho-Sang said. "At the end of the day, it would have been avoided if I set an alarm . . . I should probably start doing that."

[the2bears]

Yeah, "probably".

[Mango]

"I don't think there's anyone to blame . . . it's embarrassing."

Yes, a part of that is true. The other part though...