Mdma

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Righteous1

It's usually the people who take too much and don't drink enough water. I abused the hell out of last summer and on my euro trip to the point I got sick of it and want nothing to do with it. Worst hangovers, serotonin levels were depleted for a bit. 5htp, fish oils and hard training in the gym finally had me feeling better.

Well the other problem is people tend to drink a bunch of booze when they take either ecstasy or MDMA, which just worsens the dehydration. It's also usually mixing with booze that causes the heart and respiratory problems.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

He's young, and was clearly terrified at the possibility of his parents finding out. He went to a forum he's been a part of for a while with people he trusted to seek out some advice, and people told him to call 911, what the #### is your problem? Should he sit hovelled in his shower like so many of our friends did when we were young?

I'm going to have to assume you either never tried drugs as a youth or had parents who were at least reasonably understanding given my own experiences with friends when we were young. I once had to knock on doors at 3am to procure the use of a phone to call a paramedic when a friend of mine dropped a few too many 2cb pills, he was so petrified at the thought of his father finding out he did drugs that he snapped his phone in half when I asked to use it.

Yeah, I did try drugs when I was young. it didn't take me long to see how outright stupid they were.

Again I go back to fear or not, dead is dead.

My parents would clearly not have understood, my dad was about as much of an authoritarian, kick my a$$ into orbit when I did something stupid, rule by fear and make no compromises as they get.

I get the frame of mind thing, but I also get that this kid was lucid enough to go to an internet bulletin board looking for advice when he was having a cardiac episode.

Even the advice was bad. One of the things that happens especially it seems with this is that when you get dehydrated and drink a bunch of water you strip electrolytes and that can cause the heart problems that you hear about.

Sorry if I came across as a bit brutal, we all know I really love this community, but paging it for emergency medical advice, and giving it is actually a really bad thing.

saying just drink water and it will be ok could be singularly bad advice and give the OP a false sense of security where he sits back and drinks some water and his family comes home to find a corpse.

We don't know specifically what he's taken. or what the ingredients were that the manufacturer put in there.

a bunch of people died in this province from taking MDMA that used PMMA in its manufacture which is a toxic drug.

I'm not the villain here, maybe my conduct wasn't like one of a hero either and I apologize for that.

But the reality is that you are first of all taking you're life in your hands when you use manufactured drugs or drugs or any sort that are probably mass produced by some a$$$$$$ that is looking at his bottom line profit.

Look at Krokodil for example, a cheap morphine based drug that is manufactured by dealers in the cheapest way possible to increase profits and leads to people losing their limbs and skin.

[cracher]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

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But the reality is that you are first of all taking you're life in your hands when you use manufactured drugs or drugs or any sort that are probably mass produced by some a$$$$$$ that is looking at his bottom line profit.
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This.

Im long retired from the party scene (15+ years), but there is no practical way to get pure MDMA. There are always going to be active stereoisomers in the synthesis. You pretty much have to be deep into academic chemistry before you can even come close... The guy with the glowing tongue-ring at the north end of fractal forest may have a great reputation, but unless he shows me some chem PhD credentials, I wouldn't trust it... And this is before the cut too. There are idiots out there cutting with stupid crap to give a bit of physical addiction (synthetic opioids like fentanyl). For me, the risk:benefit ratio just made it not practical. You really are taking major risks with this class of party drugs.

[icecube]

Devils advocate post. The likelihood of getting a killer batch is pretty slim. Most people dying are the ones who mixed with booze and didn't hydrate. Even then, most people who are doing mdma are willing to take that small risk. Most are gonna have a great time. And you are gonna kill way more brain cells drinking booze.

[Tron_fdc]

Never understood ecstasy and MDMA type drugs. I was always way more interested in getting boozed and yelling than I was in getting all touchy feely, walking around shirtless and waving a glow stick. The only thing that ever appealed to me about that stuff was it made girls peel their clothes off quicker (or so the legend told me).

My bad decisions always started and (usually) ended in a 40 of rye.

I'm sure this kid is fine, and learned that opiates suck. Get into fine wine and poetry, girls are way more impressed by that than some goofball with black pupils and a pacifier in his mouth.

[icecube]

Mdma is a psychedelic, not an opiate.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

MDMA class drugs are amphetamines not opiates ^^

[Zach]

Originally Posted by Jbo

Im no doctor, but sounds like a bit of a panic attack (chest pains, breathing, anxiety). If it was an actual OD you would not be typing on a message board.

Hope OP is okay and remember nobody on the internet can diagnose you. Be smart and go to emerge, your parents wont be upset.

The doctor said my anxiety was making it a lot worse than it was.

I am doing better now. I can still feel my heart race up a bit but that's because I can't stop thinking about that night. The numbness and tingly feeling in my body has thankfully gone away.

A friend of mine put way too much MDMA I assume in my beer. I wasn't there to witness it but we also did some in the limo downtown. I won't be going anywhere near that stuff again.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by icecube

Devils advocate post. The likelihood of getting a killer batch is pretty slim. Most people dying are the ones who mixed with booze and didn't hydrate. Even then, most people who are doing mdma are willing to take that small risk. Most are gonna have a great time. And you are gonna kill way more brain cells drinking booze.

Supposedly this batch was great. I'm not a drugs expert by any means but this drug is suppose to make you feel like "Bradley Cooper". I was feeling fantastic and super confident. And I felt fine hours after I left until it all hit me. Was not a great experience. I finally got some sleep after being awake for 48+ hours.

[Wood]

Soooo, would you recommend mdma?

Glad to hear your okay

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Zach

Supposedly this batch was great. I'm not a drugs expert by any means but this drug is suppose to make you feel like "Bradley Cooper". I was feeling fantastic and super confident. And I felt fine hours after I left until it all hit me. Was not a great experience. I finally got some sleep after being awake for 48+ hours.

It sounds like you were expecting Bradley Cooper from The Hangover, but got Bradley Cooper from the Silver Linings Playbook.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by icecube

Mdma is a psychedelic, not an opiate.

Huh. I always thought MDMA was one of the ingredients in ecstasy? Isn't code named molly as well? I always thought it was an opiate.

All the same to me though. MDMA, ecstasy, LSD, mushrooms, they're all a one way ticket to confusion land. Not my idea of a fun night at all.

[Clarkey]

Originally Posted by Zach

this drug is suppose to make you feel like "Bradley Cooper"

Why would you want to feel skinny and effeminate in the first place?

Glad everything is good.

[ExiledFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

Huh. I always thought MDMA was one of the ingredients in ecstasy? Isn't code named molly as well? I always thought it was an opiate.

Opiates are derivatives of opium- heroin, oxycontin, fentanyl, methadone. This is a class of depressants. A heroin overdose will lead to respiratory arrest

Amphetamines are stimulants. In this class are MDMA, adderall, and crystal meth. Abuse of these drugs lead to hypertension, cardiac dysrythmias ( sounds like what Zach was having).

Opiates slow everything down, amphetamines speed everything up.

[polak]

There's no confusion or hallucinations from MDMA. It just makes you feel euphoric. What it can do is make it impossible for you to focus on a given task because you're overwhelmed with how "good" you feel but in terms of actually affecting your motor skills, I don't know if it actually does unless you overdose.

I wonder if you took someone on M and had them do a roadside sobriety test, how they would do... That is if you could stop them from dancing for long enough.

[something]

Originally Posted by polak

There's no confusion or hallucinations from MDMA...

I am quite sure there is...

[polak]

Originally Posted by something

I am quite sure there is...

I'm quite sure there isn't...

Unless we're talking about a different definition of confused. I mean you feel complete euphoria and of course being very happy and open can make you say things you normally wouldn't but it's not like being drunk or stoned where you can't think straight.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Zach

The doctor said my anxiety was making it a lot worse than it was.

I am doing better now. I can still feel my heart race up a bit but that's because I can't stop thinking about that night. The numbness and tingly feeling in my body has thankfully gone away.

A friend of mine put way too much MDMA I assume in my beer. I wasn't there to witness it but we also did some in the limo downtown. I won't be going anywhere near that stuff again.

I am glad you're alright.

[AcGold]

Dude, chime in faster if dozens of people think you might be dead. Glad you are OK but they were talking about tracing your IP to find your location.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Zach

The doctor said my anxiety was making it a lot worse than it was.

I am doing better now. I can still feel my heart race up a bit but that's because I can't stop thinking about that night. The numbness and tingly feeling in my body has thankfully gone away.

A friend of mine put way too much MDMA I assume in my beer. I wasn't there to witness it but we also did some in the limo downtown. I won't be going anywhere near that stuff again.

Glad to hear you're okay. As someone who has greatly indulged in all kinds of that stuff and I consider myself an educated user, it took a couple bad experiences for me to call it quits. Some people just aren't meant to do it. No shame in that. Also, slap your friend who put in in your drink without you witnessing it.

Live and learn