05-23-2013, 04:03 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
If we get rid of Stajan, yes. If not, no.
Backlund has earned top 6 minutes next season.
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But remember, we will need someone to play Backlund's minutes when he is injured.
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05-23-2013, 04:06 PM
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#102
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Lifetime Suspension
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Post Apex
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05-23-2013, 04:11 PM
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#103
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by zunie75
Why should we pay 3 mill for a guy who is underwhelming at best at this point in his career.
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In what world is a pair of 91-point seasons and a career scoring average over .90 "underwhelming"? There are reasons to say "I don't want Brad Richards" that don't require making crap up.
Edit: Just realized I misread your post. I thought you said he had been "underwhelming at best in his career". However, .75ppg this year, and .8ppg last year isn't something to sneeze at. Not worth the contract the Rangers gave him (or the Flames offered), however.
That being said, and his dismal playoff performance notwithstanding, $3 million per year on a short term contract for a centre who outscored every Flames player this year? That's a bargain, and one Feaster should chase down. Signing decent point producers to good deals does not hamper the ability to build up the core of youth. Especially when we have no centres to speak of at this time.
However, I don't think Richards would go that cheap, nor do I think he'd want to go to a rebuilding team. He will try to get on with a contender.
Last edited by Resolute 14; 05-23-2013 at 04:58 PM.
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05-23-2013, 04:14 PM
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#104
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Powerplay Quarterback
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NO. Put a defensively responsible guy in that position. Teach the youngsters to play a solid two way game as a base for further development.
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05-23-2013, 04:17 PM
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#105
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Self-Retirement
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
This is true (sort of), but what's your point? You simply have highlighted why the Flames are not a good team at the moment, a lack of pre-apex players able to play in the top 6.
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My point is that the Flames should not be going after UFA post-apex players to fill top minutes and to be the go to guys. Let the up and coming pre-apex players fill those minutes and give them something to prove.
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05-23-2013, 04:37 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by normtwofinger
My point is that the Flames should not be going after UFA post-apex players to fill top minutes and to be the go to guys. Let the up and coming pre-apex players fill those minutes and give them something to prove.
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Who are these players you speak of? Especially at the centre position? I'm right there with you, if we had some reasonable pre-apex players to fill the minutes in question.
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05-23-2013, 04:38 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
But remember, we will need someone to play Backlund's minutes when he is injured.
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No, we'll just suck more when Backlund is injured.
It's time to give Backlund some room to grow, you risk the injuries.
Last edited by ComixZone; 05-23-2013 at 04:41 PM.
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05-23-2013, 04:46 PM
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#108
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First Line Centre
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Where is this 3 mill a year coming from? Just made up? He will get much more on the open market. Is he worth more? Maybe not, but he will get it, unless he takes a cut to goto a contender. That said, 3 mill for 3 years is a no brainer.
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05-23-2013, 04:53 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
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I think a few things are important:
#1) We have to sign some free agents to put together an NHL roster
#2) We should probably go into the season with more than 1 centre this time.
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05-23-2013, 04:59 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
I think a few things are important:
#1) We have to sign some free agents to put together an NHL roster
#2) We should probably go into the season with more than 1 centre this time.
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Not really, we just need to re-sign some RFAs.
FORWARDS
Curtis Glencross / Matt Stajan / Lee Stempniak
Mike Cammalleri / Mikael Backlund / Jiri Hudler
Sven Baertschi / Alex Tanguay / Roman Horak
Lance Bouma / Max Reinhart / Tim Jackman
Blair Jones
DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie / Dennis Wideman
Mark Giordano / Mark Cundari
Chris Butler / Cory Sarich
Derek Smith /
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Miikka Kiprusoff / Karri Ramo
Joey MacDonald
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05-23-2013, 05:03 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Not really, we just need to re-sign some RFAs.
FORWARDS
Curtis Glencross / Matt Stajan / Lee Stempniak
Mike Cammalleri / Mikael Backlund / Jiri Hudler
Sven Baertschi / Alex Tanguay / Roman Horak
Lance Bouma / Max Reinhart / Tim Jackman
Blair Jones
DEFENSEMEN
T.J. Brodie / Dennis Wideman
Mark Giordano / Mark Cundari
Chris Butler / Cory Sarich
Derek Smith /
GOALTENDERS
Miikka Kiprusoff / Karri Ramo
Joey MacDonald
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Is that line-up over the cap floor? What if Kipper retires?
It would be nice to be comfortably over the cap floor so we have more flexibility to move players for picks/prospects.
Last edited by Geeoff; 05-23-2013 at 05:06 PM.
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05-23-2013, 05:06 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
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I think it kind of depends how the draft goes. If we some how get Barkov then we go into camp with Backlund, Stajan, and Barkov as our top three centers. Barkov could slide in as the 2nd or 3rd line center and as he progresses move him up.
If we land Monahan or Lindholm do either of them even make the team out of camp? I think both would be better off playing one more year developing. So if we get Monahan or Lindholm I think we should definitely give Richards a look on a short deal so we have some legit centers and an asset that could be moved at the deadline.
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05-23-2013, 05:07 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
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Of course you sign him - the Flames have the worst C depth in the NHL.
And after getting 1st line minutes, he is an excellent trade deadline candidate - either this year or next.
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05-23-2013, 05:14 PM
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#114
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney, Nova Scotia Canada
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How do you not sign an NHL centre when we use tangs and cammy......
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05-23-2013, 05:34 PM
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#115
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Is that line-up over the cap floor? What if Kipper retires?
It would be nice to be comfortably over the cap floor so we have more flexibility to move players for picks/prospects.
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Looks like it would be right at the cap floor depending on what some RFA's sign for if Kipper retires. With Kipper that looks to be around 48/9 million dollars.
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05-23-2013, 05:42 PM
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#116
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Lifetime Suspension
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We're one first line centre away from being a SC contender..... oh wait.
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05-23-2013, 06:11 PM
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#117
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sweden
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I'd sign and try to flip him at deadline next year or the year after that.
Thst said, I don't think he can be had for 3M. Maybe try to give him 4.5 for two years (as was suggested earlier).
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05-23-2013, 06:23 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
How is Glen Sather still employed? The guy who signed the Redden, Gomez, Richards...... etc contracts???
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Well, we know the Flames tried to sign Redden and Richards. For all we know they tried to sign Gomez as well.
what does that say about the Flames? Damn lucky is what I say.
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05-23-2013, 06:47 PM
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#119
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#1 Goaltender
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Might as well invite Lecavalier and St. Louis since this seems to be the happening spot for 04 Lightning members. Heck we already have their GM.
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If ever there was an oilering
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Connor Zary will win the Hart Trophy in 2027.
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05-23-2013, 07:28 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I can't believe the overwhelming hate for Richards around here? Colour me shocked actually. I think this board is under estimating how well the guy reads the game even at his age. With Tortorella as the coach in NY, I really wonder if there is a conflict behind the scenes which we're seeing now come to the surface. Richards hasn't played badly enough to warrant sitting out in such an important game. Even at $4M/ season I'd take the guy for 3 years in a heartbeat. His vision and how he reads the game could definitely help a young stud.
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