Should Feaster get fired over the O'Reilly offersheet fiasco

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by cannon7

That's a pretty big mistake, but doesn't the Flames have a legal department to warn the GM of this? O'Reilly has been a hold-out for quite a while, surely someone would've looked into this, no?

That's what I said in the other thread, it's not necessarily Feasters fault, but whoever's job it was to look into stuff like this needs to be fired ASAP. If Feaster didn't have someone looking into clauses like this, he needs to go because it's now his fault.

[Voodooman]

The only person who looks stupider than Feaster in this mess is Greg Sherman, the Avs GM. If the facts as presented are true, why wouldn't he have let the 7 days go, take the draft picks, and then put in the waiver claim, allowing him to end up with the player, the Flames 1st and 3rd round picks, and Calgary paying the $2.5 mil signing bonus. I guess the danger would be that one of the 5 teams below the Avs in the standings puts in a waiver claim and steals O'Reilly.

I'll be surprised if the team says much about this. Feaster won't be fired, and it'll be glossed over as a misunderstanding about the new CBA and crappy information from the KHL. I'm not saying it's right, but it's what will likely happen.

[howard_the_duck]

Wow.

Where are the Flames currently at on the waiver wire - could it be that Feaster thought we were up first given that Washington claimed Volpatti?

If not then I have no explanation.

Yes, you fire Feaster based off of this. While it's a stupid technicality, it's on the GM to have all his ducks in a row when making a move of this nature.

[Senator Clay Davis]

At the very least, this brush with disaster should be a wake-up call to maybe ignite some real change for the organization. Had this gone through, the changes would have meant so much less because the damage would have been done.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by blankall

They won't acknowldge it, because it's not true. From the CBA information document:

http://cdn.agilitycms.com/nhlpacom/P...ms-1-10-13.pdf



This is just sports writers trying to drum up hits. Feaster is clearly a better lawyer than Bob McKenzie.

does this cover an offer sheet though?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Bill Daly, deputy commssioner of the NHL told TSN, today, that O'Reilly would have to clear waivers to play for Calgary. As far as the NHL is concerned he would have had to clear waivers.

Source? The article on TSN has absolutely no mention of Daly.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by blankall

They won't acknowldge it, because it's not true. From the CBA information document:

http://cdn.agilitycms.com/nhlpacom/P...ms-1-10-13.pdf



This is just sports writers trying to drum up hits. Feaster is clearly a better lawyer than Bob McKenzie.

Right now, the whole hockey world thinks the Flames make a mistake. They can't ignore it. Either they need to come out and acknowledge a mistake, or they need to come out and say the media is wrong.

I want something. I've always been a Feaster supporter, but my confidence has never been lower in the franchise. You can't ignore this.

[Huntingwhale]

Fire Conroy.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

The only comparable I can come up with is when Chicago messed up on their key RFAs, forcing them to have to trade some guys they didn't want to. That blunder may have cost them a cup or two.

And if memory serves it pretty much did cost Tallon his job no?

Yup...Tallon was gone not that long after that major league screw up...and so should Feaster be for this. Doesnt matter it never came to fruition, he almost set this club back several years with this reckless attempt...not to mention offer sheets are a terrible idea to begin with because they rarely work.

Right now all he has done is PO'd Sherman and likely some other GM's, shown that he or those under his watch do not have a firm grasp of the things they need to have a grip on, and made himself look like a buffoon to the entire league.

Has to go....today if not sooner.

Its unbelievable.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Voodooman

The only person who looks stupider than Feaster in this mess is Greg Sherman, the Avs GM. If the facts as presented are true, why wouldn't he have let the 7 days go, take the draft picks, and then put in the waiver claim, allowing him to end up with the player, the Flames 1st and 3rd round picks, and Calgary paying the $2.5 mil signing bonus. I guess the danger would be that one of the 5 teams below the Avs in the standings puts in a waiver claim and steals O'Reilly.

I'll be surprised if the team says much about this. Feaster won't be fired, and it'll be glossed over as a misunderstanding about the new CBA and crappy information from the KHL. I'm not saying it's right, but it's what will likely happen.

Because he'd have been a Blue Jacket.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Right now, the whole hockey world thinks the Flames make a mistake. They can't ignore it. Either they need to come out and acknowledge a mistake, or they need to come out and say the media is wrong.

I want something. I've always been supporting Feaster, but my confidence has never been lower in the franchise. You can't ignore this.

The media, and the NHL.

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by valo403

Source? The article on TSN has absolutely no mention of Daly.

And as NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN on Friday, O'Reilly would have had to clear waivers to join the Flames if he actually played in the KHL after the start of the NHL season on Jan. 19.

From: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417108

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

That's what I said in the other thread, it's not necessarily Feasters fault, but whoever's job it was to look into stuff like this needs to be fired ASAP. If Feaster didn't have someone looking into clauses like this, he needs to go because it's now his fault.

Not the way it should work. Feaster is the GM and the buck stops there. You can't hold lower level employees accountable for something that should have been verified from the GM chair.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by valo403

Source? The article on TSN has absolutely no mention of Daly.

read it again.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Originally Posted by valo403

Source? The article on TSN has absolutely no mention of Daly.

It's right in the article, 2nd paragraph

And as NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN on Friday, O'Reilly would have had to clear waivers to join the Flames if he actually played in the KHL after the start of the NHL season on Jan. 19.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417108

EDIT: Beaten

[dino7c]

I am interested if he actually played in the KHL

[J epworth]

I can't wait for the afternoon show to start on the FAN, wait until they open up the phone lines, it will be even better than overtime.

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by valo403

Source? The article on TSN has absolutely no mention of Daly.

Did you read it?

According to the Kontinental Hockey League's website, O'Reilly - who was unsigned until Thursday night - played for Metallurg Magnitogorsk on Jan. 21 and Jan. 23 (written in the game sheets as 'Rayan O Rayli'). And as NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN on Friday, O'Reilly would have had to clear waivers to join the Flames if he actually played in the KHL after the start of the NHL season on Jan. 19.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

From: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417108

Apparently I should have word searched the article

[polak]

Originally Posted by fotze

This is actually a good thing. A handy excuse to clean house.

I wish we could clean the house with ownership too...

Surely there has to be some reckless, young billionare among the CP ranks? Champion?