[Trade] Flames acquire Roman Horak and 2x 2011 2nd rd picks for Tim Erixon and 5th rd pick - Page 6 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

looooob · 06-01-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

Did Tim not like Brent?

who knows, but there must be less than 5 prospects in the history of the NHL who haven't signed based on the team's current coach. unless you are drafted by Nashville or Buffalo your team will have a new coach probably 3 times before you are a UFA.

hard to know what his issue was but Feaster (or whomever) better have a good soul search as to what it was and try within the realm of what is possible to deal with the situation. no matter how bad you think things were or weren't under Sutter, the guy was fired- if prospects aren't picking your team based on the past GM that's silly. if they are basing it on the current regime the current regime better figure out why. as bad as the Flames have been there are other terrible franchises who sign their blue chippers

SuperMatt18 · 06-01-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

If they guy would not sign who's fault is that?

Actually there is still a little bit of blame to lay at the feet of Feaster. The WC have been over for a couple weeks now and Erixon should have been priority #1.

At least if they would have been more forceful in contract negotiations earlier they would have known that Erixon was not gonna sign here and would have had some time to shop him around.

Of course this could have been a blindside by Erixon's agent to make sure only the Rangers would have been in the picture but still Feaster could have been more prepared for this.

Sunblad · 06-01-2011, 02:31 PM

With this kind of decision making we will be a lottery team for the near future.

M*A*S*H 4077 · 06-01-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by calumniate

We just got Lindrossed! Maybe Erixon was worried about our current d-glut. Good news for Brodie I guess.

Horak is the next Forsberg?

Caged Great · 06-01-2011, 02:31 PM

Erixon can burn in hell.

Anyway, we will be more than fine without the D-bag.

Next, we'll be having to re-sign Babchuk to fill the void. Not a bad compromise.

The Yen Man · 06-01-2011, 02:31 PM

I'm hoping Feaster can maybe package one of the 2nd rounders with the 13th pick to move up a few spots in the draft. Perhaps in the 6-8 range?

8sPOT · 06-01-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

I want to know why he wouldn't sign.

If the reasoning is because he doesn't like the coach or the GM or whatever, they need to step up their game, because their public image is being tarnished.

A truly terrible day for the history of this team.

C'mon, I bet this will be forgotten by the end of the draft or start of the season. I think this is sign of new era in that Feaster made chicken salad out of chicken s*&t.

Again, we got 2 2nd round picks and a decent prospect. Let the bitterness sit for a few days and this won't be so bad.

Icon · 06-01-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

This is pretty bad though. Even though things were bad, we could at least say we had two nice young D in the system coming up with Reggie and Gio as well (and whatever happens to Bouwmeester).

Now, with that hole, we have some serious issues.

I'd argue Ramage is a good upcoming prospect... but he's at least a year off from a shot at it.

Heavy Jack · 06-01-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunblad

I feel like we are on the Titanic, they have just spotted an iceberg ahead.

Dude Tim Erixon wasn't the be all end all player/prospect for this team. He still has to prove himself at the NHL level and he looked good but not great during the WHC. I won't miss him because he didn't really demonstrate much for me to miss.

FlamesPuck12 · 06-01-2011, 02:32 PM

I haven't been keeping up with Tim Erixon news. Can some one fill me in on why he doesn't want to sign in Calgary?

Oilbert · 06-01-2011, 02:32 PM

Some of you are so pessimistic, relax Horak is a great prospect and has chemistry with the team's best forward prospect.

Watch Howse and Horak tear up the AHL.

Roof-Daddy · 06-01-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunblad

With this kind of decision making we will be a lottery team for the near future.

Yep, if all our first rounders make the decision not to sign a contract with us we will be in trouble......that's what you meant right?

sureLoss · 06-01-2011, 02:32 PM

Flames now have the following picks in the upcoming draft.
#13 First Round
#45 (NYR) Second Round
#57 (WAS) Second Round
#104 Fourth Round
#164 Sixth Round

The original 2nd round pick was traded to Chicago in the Bourque deal.
Flames 3rd round pick was traded to Edmonton in the Staios deal.
Flames 5th round pick was traded to NYR in the Erixon deal.
Flames 7th round pick was traded to Winnipeg in the Modin deal.

Icon · 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesPuck12

I haven't been keeping up with Tim Erixon news. Can some one fill me in on why he doesn't want to sign in Calgary?

I think it was likely less that he didn't want to play in Calgary, than he DID want to play in NYC.

Yakbutter · 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I'm hoping Feaster can maybe package one of the 2nd rounders with the 13th pick to move up a few spots in the draft. Perhaps in the 6-8 range?

I wouldn't be opposed to him using both the second to get up into the 4-8 range. If he can do that I will be happy.

SuperMatt18 · 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Caged Great

Erixon can burn in hell.

Anyway, we will be more than fine without the D-bag.

Next, we'll be having to re-sign Babchuk to fill the void. Not a bad compromise.

I think we can say goodbye to Babchuk as a result of this, they have the same agent.

Unless maybe there was a wink and a handshake agreement that we could keep Babchuk if we gave into the wishes of Erixon and traded him to the NYR.

Itse · 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM

Sheesh, Sutter really spent those draft picks like candy. No wonder our prospect pool isn't that hot.

Sucks to lose Erixon, but it's a free world, and you can't force someone to play where he doesn't want to. The return is decent, if nothing fantastic. (Unless Horak is some kind of a hidden gem, which is always unlikely, or we happen to draft someone great, which is always a possibility.)

Sunblad · 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM

I would rather have Erixon signed than Glencross or Tanguay. Those players will not be in Cgy when we are a contender again.

Ashasx · 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM

Tim Erixon looked like he was going to be a VERY good #3/4 guy on the team. Can play in all situations, a well rounded player.

Simply, we needed him on the team next year due to cap space. I guess this all but confirms that Staios will be back next year.

JiriHrdina · 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Actually there is still a little bit of blame to lay at the feet of Feaster. The WC have been over for a couple weeks now and Erixon should have been priority #1.

At least if they would have been more forceful in contract negotiations earlier they would have known that Erixon was not gonna sign here and would have had some time to shop him around.

Of course this could have been a blindside by Erixon's agent to make sure only the Rangers would have been in the picture but still Feaster could have been more prepared for this.

Agreed these are all unanswered questions but I also believe that Erixon has been a priority and only recently did the Flames realize it wasn't happening.

The fact that he went to NY suggests there was one team he wanted and one team only.

Bobby Mac sums it up:
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie

Bottom line: If top undrafted Euro prospect (Erixon), who doesn't HAVE to go to NHL, wants to squeeze team (CGY), call his own shot, he can.