Unfortunately the people of Palestine, who will suffer most, had no choice.
I bet the vast majority of citizens of Gaza and the West Bank are fed up with Hamas and no doubt are scared to death about what's going to happen next. The Israelis too.
Hamas, which of course has no regard for Jewish/Israeli lives, could care less about Palestinian lives as well. They are scum.
Seems like they are quite happy parading in the street
Are you that intellectually challenged that you can’t engage with what people actually say? Why do you resort again and again and again to take jeering shots at absurd strawmen of your own invention?
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Hamas, which of course has no regard for Jewish/Israeli lives, could care less about Palestinian lives as well. They are scum.
I’m confident that the residents of the apartment towers where the rockets were launched from were not warned beforehand. And Hamas knew full well many of the nearby residents would be killed in counter-strikes. Deliberately using civilians as a shield is contemptible.
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Coexisted just fine with Egypt? What is your timeframe for believing that? This attack occurred just 50 years after the Yom Kippur war which was Israel vs the Arab world led by Egypt. Israel lost the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in that war. Sure they have a peace accord now but that is a fairly new occurrence in history.
After the peace treaty was signed. The treaty was signed in 1980.
Come on. I know you have a connection to the country obviously but you can’t be this naive.
Edit: I know you are not this naive because you have talked about the problems earlier in the thread.
I lived in that country for 12 years.
There are problems, but the vast majority of people in Israel want peace. They're afraid that the peace would be betrayed, and they don't want to give up any more land, like they did in the previous 2 treaties.
The average Israeli citizen didn't want to go to Gaza and murder Palestinians in cold blood, that might have changed after last night events. Right now people want Hamas to pay more than anything else.
This was clearly not a spontaneous reaction to Israeli oppression. It was a carefully planned and coordinated attack instigated by Iran and Hezbollah, who are desperate that Israel not make peace with its Arab neighbours. The Palestinians - who when all is said and done will suffer the lion’s share of suffering in the conflict - are being played as patsies.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
There are problems, but the vast majority of people in Israel want peace. They're afraid that the peace would be betrayed, and they don't want to give up any more land, like they did in the previous 2 treaties.
The average Israeli citizen didn't want to go to Gaza and murder Palestinians in cold blood, that might have changed after last night events. Right now people want Hamas to pay more than anything else.
I am sure the average Israeli doesn’t but that doesn’t mean much when those in power routinely brutalize innocent Palestinians in the land that is rightfully theirs.
I doubt the average Palestinian is happy about the Hamas attacks but they will be the ones who feel the horrible effects.
I am sure the average Israeli doesn’t but that doesn’t mean much when those in power routinely brutalize innocent Palestinians in the land that is rightfully theirs.
I doubt the average Palestinian is happy about the Hamas attacks but they will be the ones who feel the horrible effects.
Considering Islamic Jihad is rampant in Gaza your last point is so incorrect. You clearly have a very distant view of what actually is occurring on the ground. They were parading a mutilated body and celebrating in the streets. Not Hamas, Palestinians. With their children. Like a holiday. Same people who were dancing in the streets during 9/11. They voted Hamas in and if they allowed for elections in the west Bank Hamas would win the election there too.
The situation over there is so terrible. The history of back and forth will never stop. Yesterday's actions by Hamas need to be condemned, but Israel isn't some consistently moral player here by any means as some try to paint them as. The UN has already found before that Israel forces torture detained Palestinian children (since we're talking about torturing kids), not to mention how they deny Palestinians to health care and clean water as someone else mentioned.
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Considering Islamic Jihad is rampant in Gaza your last point is so incorrect. You clearly have a very distant view of what actually is occurring on the ground. They were parading a mutilated body and celebrating in the streets. Not Hamas, Palestinians. With their children. Like a holiday. Same people who were dancing in the streets during 9/11. They voted Hamas in and if they allowed for elections in the west Bank Hamas would win the election there too.
Considering people blocked a border crossing and blocked downtown Ottawa I guess Canadians all want Trudeau locked up for crimes against humanity in your world.
Literally thousands of rockets have been targeted at your civilians, hundreds dead and thousands injured.
You know where they were launched from and where they will be launched from again.
You are responsible for the safety of those still there....what do you do to make sure that happens?
I did answer the question. Why are you skirting their responsibility to the people they’re occupying? Why is the Jenin incursion “cool” to you? War crimes aren’t “cool,” there are rules in war for a reason, and just because one side (terrorists) isn’t playing by those rules doesn’t mean that the other side (not terrorists) can decide to do the same. Are they any better at that point?
Innocent civilians on both sides are the majority of the victims, regardless of who is attacking. Why are you shrugging your shoulders when it’s one dead and not the other?
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I did answer the question. Why are you skirting their responsibility to the people they’re occupying? Why is the Jenin incursion “cool” to you? War crimes aren’t “cool,” there are rules in war for a reason, and just because one side (terrorists) isn’t playing by those rules doesn’t mean that the other side (not terrorists) can decide to do the same. Are they any better at that point?
Innocent civilians on both sides are the majority of the victims, regardless of who is attacking. Why are you shrugging your shoulders when it’s one dead and not the other?
Not even close, but i am not surprised in the least.
Ya Israel mutualizes citizens, parades them around in the streets, and abducts women, children elderly. Innocent Women are being raped in Gaza currently, does the IDF do this? One could only imagine what these animals would do with an actual state. Oh wait we can, look at syria. Scum of the earth society. The only country in the region with any sense of decency is Israel.
One side has morals, the others does not. Clear as day to see
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Ah ya, lets talk about the Palestinians. A society that permits rape, child soldiers, human shields, no women rights, and indoctrination to kill jews from the moment they are born have morals? Should we talk about the rampant sex slave trade in the arab world? Shall I go on. What an idiotic statement
Hamas and their supporters are no different than ISIS, true hateful savages.
Islam needs to fix the cruel side of their religion or they'll never be truly welcomed in the rest of the world.
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Dude the entire population is celebrating. I could show you thousands of snapchat videos with Palestinians parading in the streets with hamas flags. You are living in la la land. This is a society who is brainwashed from infancy to vehemently hate Jews. But they should negotiate and show restraint with these animals? Sure. Making such a ridiculous comparison shows me you’ve never stepped foot in the middle east or had a discussion with an Islamist. It is a rampant ideology in the middle east and I promise you the average Palestinian is not upset by these attacks.
LOL
I love how you make blanket wrong statements about someone you know nothing about.
Not even close, but i am not surprised in the least.
Apologies, honestly did not think that “don’t do war crimes” and “protect the people you’re occupying” were not good enough answers. Let me go research some military tactics and respond to your post on a hockey message board with my full strategy. Would hate to disappoint.
