2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Seems to me, the last time this organization truly sold high on a player was Nieuwendyk.

Given how that turned out, you can understand why they’ve NEVER tried it again.

Hamilton/Ferland?

Now, I can't remember a trade deadline sale. I mean, he probably could be said to have sold high on Hudler, Russell, Granlund, Glencross. But those aren't big time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Are pick swaps allowed in the NHL?

Would be something to look into as well holding a pick swap and betting on a team having a crap year.

Toffoli to the Avs for a 1st round pick in 2023 and a 1st round pick swap in 2024.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by CFO

That trade was lucky on flames part as iginla wasn't the prospect the flames originally wanted.

They didn’t originally want Regehr for Theo either from what I recall.

In any event, selling the existing asset in both cases laid the foundation for all the success the team had during that 15-year span. It was all Iggy, Kipper, and Regehr.

Lindholm at 50% and Hanifin at 50% could get you a couple of pieces that are here for 15 years and make you tens of millions of dollars.

Lindholm and Hanifin are going to cost way more than they earn.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Are pick swaps allowed in the NHL?

Would be something to look into as well holding a pick swap and betting on a team having a crap year.

Toffoli to the Avs for a 1st round pick in 2023 and a 1st round pick swap in 2024.

To COL: Toffoli + 2024 1st
To CGY: 2023 1st + 2024 1st

Why wouldn't that be allowed?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

To COL: Toffoli + 2024 1st
To CGY: 2023 1st + 2024 1st

Why wouldn't that be allowed?

Option to swap picks.

If the Avs finish below us we get their pick.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

To COL: Toffoli + 2024 1st
To CGY: 2023 1st + 2024 1st

Why wouldn't that be allowed?

I am pretty sure it has even happened before where a trade includes the option to switch 1st rounders after the lottery. The team would exercise the option at the draft after seeing who was available. It would be written into the "future considerations" portion of the deal.

[memphusk]

Maybe Calgary needs some ringers to come in and sell like on the movie "The Goods".

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

To COL: Toffoli + 2024 1st
To CGY: 2023 1st + 2024 1st

Why wouldn't that be allowed?

Why would you want to do it? COL picks the next two years will likely be 25-31, ours, not so much

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Ya that was not the argument at all, #### you would be a fun guy to have as a learned friend in court. You said the signings were “well reviewed” not that he was a laughing stock. And at best the articles they you found said it could work out for the first couple years.

I don't believe he is learned, as that is reserved for King's Counsel appointments...

[Saqe]

The market is extremely hot right now, GMs going into panic mode while watching the arms race going around the league. You won't have that same hype during the summer when GMs won't know how their team will look next year and aren't in a playoff spot etc.

Would be a good moment to cash in on some of the assets for sure.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Saqe

The market is extremely hot right now, GMs going into panic mode while watching the arms race going around the league. You won't have that same hype during the summer when GMs won't know how their team will look next year and aren't in a playoff spot etc.

Would be a good moment to cash in on some of the assets for sure.

I agree. The Leafs are all in right now. Their draft situation move forward is very bad, but they seem to be setting themselves up for the next year or 2 and don't care about the future mess.

The Flames could set themselves up for the future without doing anything too dramatic.

Can a team retain 50% salary on a league min contract?

Lewis 50% retain as an example, puts him at $400k cap hit? Might get a pick for him.

Love to see Toffoli get moved while he is having a great year.

I've been a fan of moving Hanifin for a while, not much in the system to replace him vs Toffoli though so would be ok at moving him in off season if he does not re-sign.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

I don't believe he is learned, as that is reserved for King's Counsel appointments...

Incorrect. It's just something people say, there's no real protocol. Some people say it's only for KCs but a lot of places (even some in Canada) don't even have KCs and they say it. Sometimes sarcastically.

It's mostly used along with just "my friend" when we can't remember or maybe pronounce someone's name.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Saqe

The market is extremely hot right now, GMs going into panic mode while watching the arms race going around the league. You won't have that same hype during the summer when GMs won't know how their team will look next year and aren't in a playoff spot etc.

Would be a good moment to cash in on some of the assets for sure.

With the arms race in the east, I would think Carolina might be feeling a little bit of pressure to add.

[browntrout]

If they lose in Boston...they should sell Lucic for whatever they can get. They need to clear cap space for next year...so if teams inquiry about a defenceman or forward...they should capitalize and grab picks....if not the organization is brain dead

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1630225096634933248

https://twitter.com/user/status/1630225098123915273

Good

Treliving could easily brew a bidding war for these guys. He just needs to make the decision and put it out there

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Good

Treliving could easily brew a bidding war for these guys. He just needs to make the decision and put it out there

If he actually starts shopping these guys and if you look at the returns in some of the deals out there, he could do very well.

Tanev would be very interesting player IMO. He would be a significant add and a player that simply fits in with little chemistry issues. Hate to see him go but teams should be lining up for him.

Backlund too. He's a playoff guy and someone who would move in on any team and just fit in no issues.

Problem is do we retain salary with the age of our core?

[GioforPM]

Most TDL deals require retention, which is really only attractive for expiring contracts, and the Flames have 3, with only one (Lewis) being any kind of useful guy for a PO team.

The 2024 expirees are valuable players. I suspect they haven't even opened up extension talkes with them with a year and half still to go. and why would those players bargain now?

Tanev, Hanifin, Backlund all have MNTCs. Lindholm is fully moveable. Zadorov as well.
All of those guys you'd end up paying $2M or so to watch them play for someone else.

[Torture]

Would hate to see some of those guys go but if you can get a massive haul for any of them you pull the trigger. Go for an on-the-fly re-tool if we're trying to compete next year.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

If he actually starts shopping these guys and if you look at the returns in some of the deals out there, he could do very well.

Tanev would be very interesting player IMO. He would be a significant add and a player that simply fits in with little chemistry issues. Hate to see him go but teams should be lining up for him.

Backlund too. He's a playoff guy and someone who would move in on any team and just fit in no issues.

Problem is do we retain salary with the age of our core?

If they are tanking I suppose you can afford one full year of retention after this one. It'd suck though.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Incorrect. It's just something people say, there's no real protocol. Some people say it's only for KCs but a lot of places (even some in Canada) don't even have KCs and they say it. Sometimes sarcastically.

It's mostly used along with just "my friend" when we can't remember or maybe pronounce someone's name.

Incorrect.
It is supposed to be reserved for KCs.
People using it otherwise use it incorrectly according to proper custom.
It was originally used to distinguish Barristers from Solicitors, but as here lawyers are all technically both, it is supposed to be reserved for KCs.