Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

President of the Yoho fan club re-appears!

So we asked him multiple times about his filipino hate but he has NEVER once responded.

You are ok with that? It's a bad look defending something as deplorable as that.

It’s not that I’m president of the fan club, I’m just an adult. I can have political conversations with people and disagree without hating them.

And I might have missed that racist stuff? Sometimes this thread adds a number of pages and I just skip a bunch. I’m not defending anything racist, to be clear. It reading post after post insulting the guy and saying how dumb he is just gets old, and it’s pointless. Then, in the next breath, someone will say “it would be great if someone would come in and defend the UCP…”. Why would anyone bother?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Slava

It’s not that I’m president of the fan club, I’m just an adult. I can have political conversations with people and disagree without hating them.

And I might have missed that racist stuff? Sometimes this thread adds a number of pages and I just skip a bunch. I’m not defending anything racist, to be clear. It reading post after post insulting the guy and saying how dumb he is just gets old, and it’s pointless. Then, in the next breath, someone will say “it would be great if someone would come in and defend the UCP…”. Why would anyone bother?

See that's the MAIN problem with your defence! You missed that post and the follow up 10-15 posts asking him to explain himself. and he said jack kyit and just went on retweeting rightwing blog posts.

I don't think he has ever posted anything in the Fire and Ice Forum. He prob found this forum after we ran his wife off it. It's all Fotze's fault.. lol

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

President of the Yoho fan club re-appears!

So we asked him multiple times about his filipino hate but he has NEVER once responded.

You are ok with that? It's a bad look defending something as deplorable as that.

and seriously he puts out Cory Morgan tweets on here. that is almost as disgusting.

Your evidence of my “hate” was that I pointed out that during Treadeau attack on the oil and gas sector Notley was focusing on making schools teach in Filipino which I said “meanwhile NDP”

You know full well you have no proof of anything rascist I’ve said but continue to cling to it every time you are losing an argument.


And you hope to poison every other poster who takes you serious.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

See that's the MAIN problem with your defence! You missed that post and the follow up 10-15 posts asking him to explain himself. and he said jack kyit and just went on retweeting rightwing blog posts.

I don't think he has ever posted anything in the Fire and Ice Forum. He prob found this forum after we ran his wife off it. It's all Fotze's fault.. lol

I don’t know. You’re one of the most caustic posters here, so it’s hard to know if you’re actually upset with Yoho, or just stirring things up.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Your evidence of my “hate” was that I pointed out that during Treadeau attack on the oil and gas sector Notley was focusing on making schools teach in Filipino which I said “meanwhile NDP”

You know full well you have no proof of anything rascist I’ve said but continue to cling to it every time you are losing an argument.


And you hope to poison every other poster who takes you serious.

so why the eff did it take you 5 months to type this out instead of 5 minutes? You brought it on yourself. But whatever you do you.

and trust me I will never lose an argument to you in here. Maybe in the Tkachuk thread but you don't even watch hockey.

Go back to your hole Cory. and change your god damn name. First Lady1 should be available.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Slava

I’m not entirely sure of how it goes if the UCP loses. I could see a split again between the “progressive” conservatives and the freedom/wild rose component. I can’t imagine that a lot of UPC candidates are super happy having to defend her comments on doorsteps. It seems pretty obvious to me that if they had a reasonable leader, the UPC would be cruising to another majority. The knives will be out for her pretty quickly.

This whole election has been a train wreck where Smith has turned it into an election about trust and will Albertans accept her extreme views. I can't see the party giving her a second chance when they know the outcome will be much the same. Like, if you want us to continue to support the party through funding, she needs to go.

[KelVarnsen]

I find it amazing that Slava complains about “name calling” more than he complains about UCP and all the #### they do.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Slava

I don’t know. You’re one of the most caustic posters here, so it’s hard to know if you’re actually upset with Yoho, or just stirring things up.

Here go read it here. Took forever to find but it's on page 100. 10-15 people called him out to explain himself and actually he still hasn't.

I guess it takes me as a minority to call him out to finally rattle him... lol

English is my 2nd language... hahah

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=5974

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Slava

It’s not that I’m president of the fan club, I’m just an adult. I can have political conversations with people and disagree without hating them.

And I might have missed that racist stuff? Sometimes this thread adds a number of pages and I just skip a bunch. I’m not defending anything racist, to be clear. It reading post after post insulting the guy and saying how dumb he is just gets old, and it’s pointless. Then, in the next breath, someone will say “it would be great if someone would come in and defend the UCP…”. Why would anyone bother?

Yoho isn't the barometer of defending the UCP. They aren't even the measure of presenting a rational defence of conservatism. They are a blight on the board, and while I agree with jammies that the high-fiving dunking on insults of Yoho is juvenile and irritating, this is precisely the person deserving of shouting down.

Offering disinformation, misinformation, charlatans, grifters, and general racism, homophobia, transphobia, and fascist cheerleaders while displaying an absence of originality, thoughtful argumentation, and critical thinking is something that should be objectively rejected.

Contrarily, without blowing smoke up any unnamed anuses, your perspective is what contrarians should aspire. Don't defend this rotting potato when you're able to intelligently manage a balanced perspective.

This person is a caricature. The best thing anyone can do despite their political affiliations is ignore them.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Your evidence of my “hate” was that I pointed out that during Treadeau attack on the oil and gas sector Notley was focusing on making schools teach in Filipino which I said “meanwhile NDP”

You know full well you have no proof of anything rascist I’ve said but continue to cling to it every time you are losing an argument.


And you hope to poison every other poster who takes you serious.

Sorry, but all that you actually wrote was a contextless, disparaging “meanwhile NDP” jab accompanying a tweet about Filipino language being offered in Alberta schools, in the Alberta Politics thread, with none of the above follow-up about what you were insinuating. It’s pretty easy to draw the conclusion that you have some racist inclinations from that.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Slava

Then, in the next breath, someone will say “it would be great if someone would come in and defend the UCP…”. Why would anyone bother?

Who would say "it would be great if someone would come in and defend the UCP"? Who's clamouring for anyone to defend the worst provincial government we've ever had? Is there literally anything these people have done in the last four years that hasn't been contemptuous of their fellow man? Anything that has been ameliorated in any measurable way?

"Why would anyone bother?" Why should anyone? No one should: they're awful in every way.

[Jacks]

Funny, Slava used to be the resident lefty here but this forum has tipped so far that he is now the enemy. Forum rules are pretty much a thing of the past and has ruined any meaningful conversation.

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[Paulie Walnuts]

So does it look like the NDP has a real shot here? I know my my vote and my family voting here won't swing the vote here but I'm hopeful that it counts somewhat at ousting Smith.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Yoho isn't the barometer of defending the UCP. They aren't even the measure of presenting a rational defence of conservatism. They are a blight on the board, and while I agree with jammies that the high-fiving dunking on insults of Yoho is juvenile and irritating, this is precisely the person deserving of shouting down.

Offering disinformation, misinformation, charlatans, grifters, and general racism, homophobia, transphobia, and fascist cheerleaders while displaying an absence of originality, thoughtful argumentation, and critical thinking is something that should be objectively rejected.

Contrarily, without blowing smoke up any unnamed anuses, your perspective is what contrarians should aspire. Don't defend this rotting potato when you're able to intelligently manage a balanced perspective.

This person is a caricature. The best thing anyone can do despite their political affiliations is ignore them.

The typical liberal no proof just smear job with buzz words.

Sorry I made fun of the #%*+ hole you live it I can tell it got to you.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Yoho

The typical liberal no proof just smear job with buzz words.

Sorry I made fun of the #%*+ hole you live it I can tell it got to you.

You want the receipts?

Tread lightly.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So does it look like the NDP has a real shot here? I know my my vote and my family voting here won't swing the vote here but I'm hopeful that it counts somewhat at ousting Smith.

I did a drive around High River today and was surprised to see a lot of Orange NDP signs popping up on residents lawns. Kevin Van Tighem might give UCP Chelsae Petrovic a good scare.

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by Dion

I did a drive around High River today and was surprised to see a lot of Orange NDP signs popping up on residents lawns. Kevin Van Tighem might give UCP Chelsae Petrovic a good scare.

I can’t believe that Chelsea is the front runner with her TBA “women belong in the kitchen” ties. On Wednesday she was on a panel and said the UCP was a pro-life party and she didn’t think women should have the right to choose.

What the flying #### — I thought this issue (and LGBTQ rights) were already “solved” by majority consensus — why does it seem like we’re going backwards? Come on Alberta, this isn’t who we are.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Funny, Slava used to be the resident lefty here but this forum has tipped so far that he is now the enemy. Forum rules are pretty much a thing of the past and has ruined any meaningful conversation.

Haha, it’s so hilarious to me. I have friends who are just legitimate conservatives (not far right, but just long-time conservatives if you see my distinction) and they goad me for being a leftist and too liberal. Somehow on CP though, I’m not left enough. It’s actually awesome! I don’t think I’ve moved that far right, and if anything I’m much more liberal socially than I was a decade ago. I’m glad I’m not insane though, and that someone else noticed this!

[Slava]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

I find it amazing that Slava complains about “name calling” more than he complains about UCP and all the #### they do.

I feel like I’ve posted shots against the UCP and Danielle Smith, but honestly they probably just blend in with all the others? But, even saying that, the name calling and petulance is something we could do without.

Originally Posted by timun

Who would say "it would be great if someone would come in and defend the UCP"? Who's clamouring for anyone to defend the worst provincial government we've ever had? Is there literally anything these people have done in the last four years that hasn't been contemptuous of their fellow man? Anything that has been ameliorated in any measurable way?

"Why would anyone bother?" Why should anyone? No one should: they're awful in every way.

I can’t recall who was saying that, but it’s definitely been brought up here. There are people who like to discuss these things and I think they were hoping for a rational defence of why someone would vote UCP.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Here go read it here. Took forever to find but it's on page 100. 10-15 people called him out to explain himself and actually he still hasn't.

I guess it takes me as a minority to call him out to finally rattle him... lol

English is my 2nd language... hahah

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=5974

Well, you took the time to dig it up and I went back and read a few pages around that. Look, I’m not defending anyone if they’re racists, end of. I’m unequivocally not, and that’s that.

The page leading up to that post was a discussion about Fleury and how off the rails he is/was. Then Yoho posts “meanwhile the NDP” with the article about the Filipino language schools. I don’t know if that implies racism, because while I don’t see how it’s offensive in any way, I’m not a minority. Maybe it comes across as discounting that idea/policy as unimportant, and I can see that angle for sure.

I don’t know anything about Yoho, and their beliefs. I just wish people would stop with the personal insults and such. It’s not my thread though, and no one wants me policing this (including me). Just my opinion that we could have a better discussion and a little more decorum.