Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Always the insults.

No I will admit defeat if it happens.

Defeat? Which riding are you running in?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Always the insults.

No I will admit defeat if it happens.

Alternate future, you could jump on the winning team and not have an embarrassment of stupidity hang over you for 4 more years. Unless you somehow think Smith will make a good leader, in which case all hope is lost.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Yoho

And then this.
On to the photo finish.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661873529485430786

Cool to see things break for the NDP this late. Good sign. Are you a supporter?

[Torture]

GREAT interview with Doug Griffith, whole thing is worth a listen:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661820648371675136

[octothorp]

It's such a thin line... the NDP max out at probably 18 seats in Calgary, and need at least 16 to have a shot. (16 means you need to sweep Edmonton, pick up Banff/Kananaskis, all four winnable Edmonton-outlying-communities, and both Lethbridge seats to get to 44. +6 in Calgary might be getting them close to 16 seats.

At least it makes Maggi's take look less ridiculous, even if ThinkHQ doesn't really have a track record.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Slava

To be fair, I don't know if it says pension or CPP. But to try to split hairs and say that technically they're taking the CPP to move it to the APP isn't really the same as "they're going to take your CPP" when that's not really what's happening.

This is the commercial

https://cantafforducp.ca/gamble-pension

[jammies]

I vehemently disagree with just about every point Yoho has ever made, but the constant personal attacks reflect poorly on those of you making them. I know directing your anger at an identifiable target makes you feel better - it's cathartic. It's also distracting and pointless.

If your argument has descended into continually calling someone names, you've lost the argument. Be the better person.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

My wife and I voted tonight. Parking lot was full, and a steady stream of voters in and out. It took us maybe 5 minutes total. Highly recommend taking advantage of the advance polls.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Always the insults.

No I will admit defeat if it happens.

Thankfully you're above petty insults

I’m just curious is English a second language for you or do you just repeat the same words over and over in every post for effect?

Do you constantly talk like this to your spouse and children?

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by Torture

GREAT interview with Doug Griffith, whole thing is worth a listen:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661820648371675136

Agree. Doug Griffiths said it better than I ever could, but sums up my concerns with the current conservative movement, particularly post-unification into the UCP. The fringe have taken over the big tent.

It actually got me wondering… if the UCP wins, could we see the moderate conservatives fracture away from the TBA-controlled party to hold the balance of power in the legislature? Then build themselves into a moderate and progressive conservative option. Maybe that already exists as the Alberta Party, but with some much needed relevance and leverage.

Then I reminded myself how the so-called moderates in the UCP have remained silent this long to preserve their own jobs, even as Smith and TBA have pushed them into hard-right territory.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by jammies

I vehemently disagree with just about every point Yoho has ever made, but the constant personal attacks reflect poorly on those of you making them. I know directing your anger at an identifiable target makes you feel better - it's cathartic. It's also distracting and pointless.

If your argument has descended into continually calling someone names, you've lost the argument. Be the better person.

I tried to argue that earlier, maybe in this thread. I just think it’s ridiculous and while I understand that people don’t agree with Yoho, their posts are more on topic and worthwhile than most of the name-calling and insults.

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by Slava

I tried to argue that earlier, maybe in this thread. I just think it’s ridiculous and while I understand that people don’t agree with Yoho, their posts are more on topic and worthwhile than most of the name-calling and insults.

I wondered, and wanted to PM yoho to try it out. I wanted to ask him if he had somebody else make post for him, what would the reaction be. People just all pile up on a person and are proud when they quit the board, but all that does is make this into an echo chamber.

[btimbit]

When yoho was just acting like a Twitter spam bot it was useless and annoying, but if they're going to actually be adding their own thoughts then I have no issue with them

[Looch City]

Oh yes Yoho’s posts - especially the border line racist stuff he’s said in the past - are all on topic and add to the discussion…

I do apologize for the personal attacks, I guess I’m just kinda jealous how they skirt the line between ban/not ban worthy so well haha. Curious to see when it catches up to them.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Could be a wild finish.

Would be interesting to see the fall out for NDP if they don’t win.

Would that be the end of Notley in politics?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661870139489533954

If Smith loses I would think that would be the end of her second time in politics. The backroom boys will force her out with an attempt to find a more moderate leader that doesn't spout conspiracy theories' and doesn't attract the extreme right wingers in the party. Albertans want a leader they can trust and Smith isn't that one.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Dion

If Smith loses I would think that would be the end of her second time in politics. The backroom boys will force her out with an attempt to find a more moderate leader that doesn't spout conspiracy theories' and doesn't attract the extreme right wingers in the party. Albertans want a leader they can trust and Smith isn't that one.

I’m not entirely sure of how it goes if the UCP loses. I could see a split again between the “progressive” conservatives and the freedom/wild rose component. I can’t imagine that a lot of UPC candidates are super happy having to defend her comments on doorsteps. It seems pretty obvious to me that if they had a reasonable leader, the UPC would be cruising to another majority. The knives will be out for her pretty quickly.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Slava

I’m not entirely sure of how it goes if the UCP loses. I could see a split again between the “progressive” conservatives and the freedom/wild rose component. I can’t imagine that a lot of UPC candidates are super happy having to defend her comments on doorsteps. It seems pretty obvious to me that if they had a reasonable leader, the UPC would be cruising to another majority. The knives will be out for her pretty quickly.

I think you're right and it's pretty wild how close Travis Toews was and how different this election would look if he was the leader. (And I'm no Travis Toews fan but he's boring and managed to stay pretty scandal free even under Kenney)

Gotta imagine that his team is kicking themselves right now. How come they couldn't dig up even one of the videos that the NDP have?

[Jimmy Stang]

I have no doubt that Smith will be replaced swiftly, even if she wins. I just can’t see the next leader being more moderate, however, as long as TBA are in the picture. And their influence is increasing, not decreasing.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by jammies

I vehemently disagree with just about every point Yoho has ever made, but the constant personal attacks reflect poorly on those of you making them. I know directing your anger at an identifiable target makes you feel better - it's cathartic. It's also distracting and pointless.

If your argument has descended into continually calling someone names, you've lost the argument. Be the better person.

So it's ok to be racist against filipinos?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Slava

I tried to argue that earlier, maybe in this thread. I just think it’s ridiculous and while I understand that people don’t agree with Yoho, their posts are more on topic and worthwhile than most of the name-calling and insults.

President of the Yoho fan club re-appears!

So we asked him multiple times about his filipino hate but he has NEVER once responded.

You are ok with that? It's a bad look defending something as deplorable as that.

and seriously he puts out Cory Morgan tweets on here. that is almost as disgusting.