Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its probably from a pure political reason point of view the best time for an election for the Liberals.

PP going through a leadership convention, not having control over the party.
Jagmeet not having a good run and looking a little lame duck, plus if he abandons the agreement, Justin lays the blame of an election at his feet, if it goes that way.

Inflation and recession are probably going to become more prevalent in the fall also energy bills will jump probably in a major way. They would want an election before that happens.

I expect an election in the fall, I expect a incredibly nasty and gross election in the fall.

Why not just wait 2 years when hopefully the economy is better? Even in a best case scenario - they are going to gain a few seats and still end up needing the NDP to do anything.

Most of the election talk of late is all from either Trudeau haters or right leaning media who are triggered by Trudeau. I just don't see the logic in it.

The last election - they called/planned for when they hoped Covid would be dying out and we'd all be vaccinated and living in a utopia.

[edslunch]

The Liberals would be foolish to call an election now. PP is riding the Justinflation, freedom, COVID wave and has as much momentum as he will ever have. Another early election just gives him more fuel. Let him marinate for a few years while economy and inflation hopefully stabilize and PP will be just another CPC roadkill.

Also, please replace Trudeau

[Bleeding Red]

Top 5 reasons why the Libs will call a fall election:

Justin's ego
They see an opportunity to crush the CPC & NDP in 1 fell swoop
Justin's Ego
Can only ride the anti-Trump / anti-populist wave so much longer
Justin's EGO

No getting rid of Trudeau until after he either wins or loses his 4th election.

He's not going to sit around and wait for it - I am sure a few others are already conspiring to move him out. He is not going to waste the opportunity to paint PP with whatever brush he wants. So long as the Libs keep catering to urban voters & SJWs he will keep winning at least minority governments.

If PP pivots in any way from his current populism, then you can bet a ton of CPC voters will shift to Bernier's party. If PP doesn't shift, then you can bet a ton of CPC voters will stay home.

I'll be voting for the Rhinoceros party this time. My kid is their local candidate. He can't do any worse than what we have now.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

I'll be voting for the Rhinoceros party this time. My kid is their local candidate. He can't do any worse than what we have now.

Your kid is their candidate in an election that hasn’t been announced?

[Bleeding Red]

Yup.

All he had to do was fill out the form first. They don't hold candidate elections.

I don't think it's that unusual. I wouldn't be surprised if the regular parties already had "candidates of choice" set up in a number of ridings. As a minority theoretically the government could lose confidence at any time triggering an election.

Gotta be ready.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Yup.

All he had to do was fill out the form first. They don't hold candidate elections.

I don't think it's that unusual. I wouldn't be surprised if the regular parties already had "candidates of choice" set up in a number of ridings. As a minority theoretically the government could lose confidence at any time triggering an election.

Gotta be ready.

What happens when someone else from that party decides before an election that they want to run in that riding?

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

What happens when someone else from that party decides before an election that they want to run in that riding?

If I understand it correctly (I could be wrong. Kid knows better) for the RP, it's first come first served. There is no riding association to deal with. They don't campaign or fundraise.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

If I understand it correctly (I could be wrong. Kid knows better) for the RP, it's first come first served. There is no riding association to deal with. They don't campaign or fundraise.

So someone completely unqualified can run so long as they get their name on the ballot first? No sure how that’s much of an improvement from the current situation, but best of luck to your son.

[Bleeding Red]

The party motto is: If you're going to vote in clowns anyway, might as well be us.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

So someone completely unqualified can run so long as they get their name on the ballot first? No sure how that’s much of an improvement from the current situation, but best of luck to your son.

I’m shocked to find out the Rhinocerous Party doesn’t take candidate selection particularly seriously.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

So someone completely unqualified can run so long as they get their name on the ballot first? No sure how that’s much of an improvement from the current situation, but best of luck to your son.

Well, while a staunch NDPer would know all about unqualified candidates, have you looked at their platform? It's a joke party, solely about the protest vote. Let's not pretend that the Rhinos should be concerned with nomination contests and an intricate party constitution here.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well, while a staunch NDPer would know all about unqualified candidates, have you looked at their platform?

Yup, not particularly impressed by how it’s put together but I could say the same about the liberal and conservative platforms. I vote on policies and as long as I’m someone who has to work for a living I’m going to lean towards policies that protect and help people who work for a living. Most of the other stuff that the parties bang their drums on is fluff that they won’t follow through on anyways nor can be expected to handle better than the other parties and only ensures the media keeps people engaged in click bait headlines rather than focusing on what issues and legislation are actually impacting their ability to better their lives.

If the parties you support were more concerned about workers rights there probably wouldn’t even be an NDP party, unfortunately they’re more concerned about keeping their donors who don’t share those views happy. If you want to support that kind of garbage that’s up to you.

It's a joke party, solely about the protest vote. Let's not pretend that the Rhinos should be concerned with nomination contests and an intricate party constitution here.

I was more fascinated with how people brag about voting for a party because they advertise their incompetence, as if it’s something to make them look like they are going to somehow fix systemic issues.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by edslunch

The Liberals would be foolish to call an election now. PP is riding the Justinflation, freedom, COVID wave and has as much momentum as he will ever have. Another early election just gives him more fuel. Let him marinate for a few years while economy and inflation hopefully stabilize and PP will be just another CPC roadkill.

Also, please replace Trudeau

Sure, PP has momentum, but he's going the wrong way. Bitcoin, freedumb, and covidiots will only take you so far while turning off mainstream voters.

[Slava]

^ again, it's a protest vote. I voted for the Rhinos last time and for a night, had the sign on my lawn (hot commodity and it was stolen!). I didn't vote for them because I think we need more green coloured vehicles on the road. I looked at the other parties and couldn't get behind any of them for one reason or another. It hits a point where you either hold your nose, don't vote, or vote in protest. I will always vote.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

^ again, it's a protest vote. I voted for the Rhinos last time and for a night, had the sign on my lawn (hot commodity and it was stolen!). I didn't vote for them because I think we need more green coloured vehicles on the road. I looked at the other parties and couldn't get behind any of them for one reason or another. It hits a point where you either hold your nose, don't vote, or vote in protest. I will always vote.

That’s your right. Personally I just don’t see the point in voting for a party that runs on having absolutely nothing to offer. I just try to focus on where I want to see improvements and vote accordingly if I think the promises will actually be followed through on while remaining cognizant of the fact that every party is going to promise the moon but will likely only actually deliver a handful of stars.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by SebC

Sure, PP has momentum, but he's going the wrong way. Bitcoin, freedumb, and covidiots will only take you so far while turning off mainstream voters.

I think it is pretty obvious that "Bitcoin, freedumb, and covidiots" are just weak attempts by the left to desperately find something to get upset about. PP is pretty much promising to fix everything that is wrong with the way Trudeau has been running the country. I don't think anyone with any common sense would object to any of PPs ideas.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

That’s your right. Personally I just don’t see the point in voting for a party that runs on having absolutely nothing to offer. I just try to focus on where I want to see improvements and vote accordingly if I think the promises will actually be followed through on while remaining cognizant of the fact that every party is going to promise the moon but will likely only actually deliver a handful of stars.

Well, no party has anything to offer but a gentle pat on the head whilst they shove something up your behind either gently or aggressively. Right now the only choices are dry and hard or gentle and probably a lot larger than you were prepared to accept.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Why not just wait 2 years when hopefully the economy is better? Even in a best case scenario - they are going to gain a few seats and still end up needing the NDP to do anything.

The Liberals probably won't want to wait too long as in about two years the House of Commons grows from 338 to 343 seats. Alberta gets three of the new seats so it becomes a bit harder to win a Liberal majority.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Well, no party has anything to offer but a gentle pat on the head whilst they shove something up your behind either gently or aggressively. Right now the only choices are dry and hard or gentle and probably a lot larger than you were prepared to accept.

What they legislate matters though, and every party is going to make at least some changes on that front one way or another so I think it’s important for voters to make sure that is their main focus at any level of government.

Otherwise you end up with people like stickman in the post before yours telling people vague things like “PP is promising to fix everything that is wrong with what Trudeau is doing…” when that could mean a hundred different things to each voter, and then following it up by trying to insult someone by insinuating they don’t have common sense if they don’t agree with that completely undefined position.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by StickMan

I don't think anyone with any common sense would object to any of PPs ideas.

Well that settles it folks, if you don’t agree with someone who assumes a politician has the answers to all your problems you are probably lacking in the common sense department. Take stickman’s word for it because no one ever posted something ridiculous on the internet so there’s no reason to believe he’s out to lunch.