07-28-2021, 09:52 PM
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#1141
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Ok. I have come around to this. I am 38. The Flames have gone past round 1 only 7 times during my entire life.
This team sucks. It will continue to suck. May as well do something bold and try to win.
Go get Eichel.
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07-28-2021, 09:52 PM
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#1142
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Lifetime Suspension
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I imagine there would be conditions attached to all picks involve that hinge on his ability to play.
Buffalo will need to mitigate some of that risk somehow.
It will be a complex trade in many aspects.
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07-28-2021, 09:53 PM
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#1143
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson
I think the return will be something like Tkachuk, Dube, 2022 1st, Zary. It’s gonna hurt a lot if we get Eichel.
Let’s do a three-way trade with Buffalo and St. Louis. It just makes so much sense.
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The status quo hurts.
Let’s try something different.
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07-28-2021, 09:53 PM
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#1144
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by mile
Kinda reminds me of Warrener randomly bringing up Sutter on the radio in the days before the Flames hired him earlier this year
There's probably other examples of the 960 guys planting the seed before something happens
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To me this is great news! The less we subtract from the cutest squad the better we are! Losing Chucky does not help our chances. It’s all in time! Of course money needs to be part of this to make it work but seriously it’s time to go all in.
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07-28-2021, 09:54 PM
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#1145
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GOAT!
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List of Cup winning teams since 2010:
2010 Chicago Blackhawks
2011 Boston Bruins
2012 Los Angeles Kings
2013 Chicago Blackhawks
2014 Los Angeles Kings
2015 Chicago Blackhawks
2016 Pittsburgh Penguins
2017 Pittsburgh Penguins
2018 Washington Capitals
2019 St. Louis Blues
2020 Tampa Bay Lightning
2021 Tampa Bay Lightning
Every one of those teams had at least one "Eichel" - or, a "really elite player" - (Kane, Bergeron, Kopitar, Kane, Kopitar, Kane, Crosby, Crosby, Ovechkin, O'Riley, Kucherov, Kucherov).
My thinking on this is that, if the teams that are winning Cups all have an Eichel and we can't be bothered to ever draft high enough to pick an Eichel, and we can never pull off a trade to acquire an Eichel, and we can never sign an Eichel or "refuse to go over an internal individual player cap" to even be able to pay an Eichel...
Then, I mean, wtf are we even doing? Like, stop blowing smoke up my ass with this whole "our goal is to win a Cup" BS, and just tell me the truth: even with a salary cap, we're still just a small market team who's never really going to be able to compete with anyone - not because we can't, but because we won't.
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07-28-2021, 09:55 PM
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#1146
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Ok. I have come around to this. I am 38. The Flames have gone past round 1 only 7 times during my entire life.
This team sucks. It will continue to suck. May as well do something bold and try to win.
Go get Eichel.
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Heck, I'm 76. I've been a fan since day 1. I've been through all the drought years and I think we're in for another one. This team hasn't improved enough for any of us to get excited about.
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07-28-2021, 09:59 PM
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#1147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Ok. I have come around to this. I am 38. The Flames have gone past round 1 only 7 times during my entire life.
This team sucks. It will continue to suck. May as well do something bold and try to win.
Go get Eichel.
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Only 7? I’m 27 and I’ve only seen them out of the first round twice.
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07-28-2021, 10:00 PM
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#1148
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickle Juice
To me this is great news! The less we subtract from the cutest squad the better we are!...
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Because of how much Eichel would cut into the cuteness? It is a good plan for maintaining some balance.
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07-28-2021, 10:00 PM
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#1149
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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83 84 86 88 89 04 15
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07-28-2021, 10:02 PM
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#1150
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
83 84 86 88 89 04 15
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I thought those were the numbers from LOST for a moment.
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07-28-2021, 10:03 PM
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#1151
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GOAT!
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I'm 47, and I've only had three summers of feeling good about this team: 86, 89 and 04.
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07-28-2021, 10:05 PM
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#1152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Eichel is a hand grenade of an acquisition. They're really gonna have to do this right. Because if he has to stop playing due to complications, you just blew your wad and have nothing to show for it except 10m sitting on LTIR for 5 years.
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07-28-2021, 10:06 PM
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#1153
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
List of Cup winning teams since 2010:
2010 Chicago Blackhawks
2011 Boston Bruins
2012 Los Angeles Kings
2013 Chicago Blackhawks
2014 Los Angeles Kings
2015 Chicago Blackhawks
2016 Pittsburgh Penguins
2017 Pittsburgh Penguins
2018 Washington Capitals
2019 St. Louis Blues
2020 Tampa Bay Lightning
2021 Tampa Bay Lightning
Every one of those teams had at least one "Eichel" - or, a "really elite player" - (Kane, Bergeron, Kopitar, Kane, Kopitar, Kane, Crosby, Crosby, Ovechkin, O'Riley, Kucherov, Kucherov).
My thinking on this is that, if the teams that are winning Cups all have an Eichel and we can't be bothered to ever draft high enough to pick an Eichel, and we can never pull off a trade to acquire an Eichel, and we can never sign an Eichel or "refuse to go over an internal individual player cap" to even be able to pay an Eichel...
Then, I mean, wtf are we even doing? Like, stop blowing smoke up my ass with this whole "our goal is to win a Cup" BS, and just tell me the truth: even with a salary cap, we're still just a small market team who's never really going to be able to compete with anyone - not because we can't, but because we won't.
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well Jay Feaster tried to fumble his way to your 2nd last Eichel. hell to Jay Feasters credit he was in on your last Eichel too- just not enough to pass up Tyler Wotherspoon-
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07-28-2021, 10:09 PM
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#1154
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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I think I was having a fever dream but was there some kind of rumor about John Carlson and the Flames? for some reason it's stuck in my head but it might have been a Bot.
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*Disclaimer: I am a "glass half full" Flames fan. 
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07-28-2021, 10:12 PM
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#1155
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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Feaster also called Jankowski the best player in his draft...
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07-28-2021, 10:13 PM
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#1156
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
I'm 47, and I've only had three summers of feeling good about this team: 86, 89 and 04.
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If reaching the finals is you benchmark for feeling good, that’s a pretty grim outlook.
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07-28-2021, 10:16 PM
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#1157
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Franchise Player
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07-28-2021, 10:19 PM
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#1158
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First Line Centre
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The Flames can no longer fit Eichel while only giving up futures. They would need to somehow involve Monahan or Tkachuk at this point. Maybe Andersson or Mangiapane at the very least salary wise.
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07-28-2021, 10:22 PM
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#1159
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
If reaching the finals is you benchmark for feeling good, that’s a pretty grim outlook.
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If missing the playoffs or not getting out of the first round is your benchmark for feeling good, that's a pretty lazy outlook.
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07-28-2021, 10:22 PM
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#1160
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Thats my thoughts. Blow the futures wad, recoup assets by moving the core guy Eichel is taking the place of.
I dont think we exceed the 10 percent over the cap rule if they made the move tonight. So there's wiggle room.
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We definitely wouldn’t exceed the cap as of tonight. Still have 12 million in cap space currently.
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