2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Flames are playing well, I doubt Conroy is in a hurry for a deal unless it’s overpaid.

He may even have trouble dealing at the TDL unless they are out of it

Dislike the term ‘overpay’.

If a trade is on the table that makes sense for the Flames, you do it. Overplaying your hand is an unnecessary risk. If a team offers you a package that is what you’re looking for, you take it. Galaxy brianing this is not the way to go.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Flames are playing well, I doubt Conroy is in a hurry for a deal unless it’s overpaid.

He may even have trouble dealing at the TDL unless they are out of it

Nah. If the Flames are in a playoff spot then I’m more worried they sign Lindholm to a gross contract. No way they UFAs walk for nothing after the Gaudreau fiasco

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Flames are playing well, I doubt Conroy is in a hurry for a deal unless it’s overpaid.

He may even have trouble dealing at the TDL unless they are out of it

Winning or not, a forward still needs to go. Maybe even two forwards. Need room for Pelletier and eventually Coronato.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Nah. If the Flames are in a playoff spot then I’m more worried they sign Lindholm to a gross contract. No way they UFAs walk for nothing after the Gaudreau fiasco

I think the issue the Flames are facing is Lindholm doesn’t want to stay. Ditto for Hanifin, Tanev, and Zadorov.

Plus, I’m sure they would prefer to move a goalie to make room for Wolf.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think the issue the Flames are facing is Lindholm doesn’t want to stay. Ditto for Hanifin, Tanev, and Zadorov.

Plus, I’m sure they would prefer to move a goalie to make room for Wolf.

If they are rolling then maybe they change their minds.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Flames are playing well, I doubt Conroy is in a hurry for a deal unless it’s overpaid.

He may even have trouble dealing at the TDL unless they are out of it

This approach has always bothered me. It’s not an either/or proposition. Why can’t you trade your ufas and still make the playoffs? We did that in 2015. Traded Glencross to Washington for picks and still made the playoffs. And came out ahead. Used the second rounder in that deal to get dougie Hamilton. We don’t make that deal for glencross and we might not have the assets to get Hamilton.

In non playoff years, we’ve traded vets and end up going on a run after the deadline when we should in theory do worse, much to the chagrin to that segment of the fanbase that wants a better draft pick. 2016 after we deal hudler and Russell, we go on a 9-8-3 run despite dealing these regulars. And we came out with good draft capital.

So deal the ufas regardless where you are in the standings. Keeping this crew together is fools gold. No one can predict how the team will perform if they move the ufas at the deadline. Similar to 2016, they may go on a run.

[Badgers Nose]

Noah gets signed, the rest get walked. Who says no?

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Noah gets signed, the rest get walked. Who says no?

Flames, and the player.

Noah at $7.5m is not the contract Flames should proceed with.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Noah gets signed, the rest get walked. Who says no?

Hopefully the Flames, but it seems like unless it is for much more than he thinks he can get elsewhere (which again should have the Flames saying no) Hanifin doesn’t have interest in staying.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by flambers

Flames, and the player.

Noah at $7.5m is not the contract Flames should proceed with.

Where are you going to find a top three D for less than that in 2023? He’s better than Weeger ($6.25m) and five years younger.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If they are rolling then maybe they change their minds.

Unlikely.

I doubt, very much, Lindholm changes his mind because the Flames are on a recent uptick. This is a decision he’s making for the next 7-8 years of his career. If he didn’t have doubts about the Flames, I strongly suspect he would have resigned by now. He’s been at arms length distance since the end of last season and probably more. The only indication there has been that he would extend is if the Flames met his contract demands, which has been speculated to be +$9M per year. Which the Flames are smart not to have relented on.

Zadorov is all but certainly gone. We’ve heard Tanev and the Flames are far apart on an extension, and Hanifin walked away from $60M guaranteed. I think both sides on all fronts think it best to move on.

Great that the team hasn’t imploded but the writing is on the wall. The players want to move on and I suspect so does the organization.

[Badgers Nose]

They are not losing them for nothing. They are getting the remaining games of the season, any playoffs and then the cap space.

None of those guys get traded for nice stuff without retention or bad contracts coming back. So not having that is valuable in and of itself.

[ForeverFlameFan]

We weren’t winning games with more veterans in the lineup, we’ve won games with more youth injection who are hungry to play. I doubt we skip a beat without Lindholm/Tanev/Zadorov/Hanifin but if we do at least we get assets in return. You can’t go wrong with selling.

Where you can go wrong is be stubborn like the Flames in the past and letting these guys walk for nothing.

[Hackey]

Making trades is probably difficult right now and will probably get easier as there is less money owed on the contracts but I also hope Conroy doesn't wait until the very end for all of these guys. He has a good 4-6 potential trades.

[Spurs]

Having guys stick around to push for the WC spot and a first round exit isn't a positive. "Getting" that for them instead of actual assets is terrible management.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Where are you going to find a top three D for less than that in 2023? He’s better than Weeger ($6.25m) and five years younger.

Maybe, if Flames are going to pay that type of salary. It has to be with a dman that has offensive upside

Noah is a top 3 for sure, he is not a powerplay guy or a offensive type

Makes no sense for the Flames

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

We weren’t winning games with more veterans in the lineup, we’ve won games with more youth injection who are hungry to play. I doubt we skip a beat without Lindholm/Tanev/Zadorov/Hanifin but if we do at least we get assets in return. You can’t go wrong with selling.

Where you can go wrong is be stubborn like the Flames in the past and letting these guys walk for nothing.

The goal is to win hockey games? Are they stubborn about that? I hope so.

Cap space is an asset.

Maybe we buy Drais or something with all the money we have. LOL

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

The goal is to win hockey games? Are they stubborn about that? I hope so.

Cap space is an asset.

Maybe we buy Drais or something with all the money we have. LOL

Its more like the Toffoli trade.

draft pick, player

Better the player the Flames move, the better the player and the pick

Cap space is absolutely an asset.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by flambers

Its more like the Toffoli trade.

draft pick, player

Better the player the Flames move, the better the player and the pick

Cap space is absolutely an asset.

This is exactly the type of trade they shouldn't be making. Shanangovich likely plays a couple years here, makes minimal impact, then leaves. These type of trades bring back mediocre players and mediocre picks. This is not a strategy to become elite.

Focus on stockpiling assets for the future. You can acquire filler guys like Sharangovich easily without trading your best assets.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

They are not losing them for nothing. They are getting the remaining games of the season, any playoffs and then the cap space.

None of those guys get traded for nice stuff without retention or bad contracts coming back. So not having that is valuable in and of itself.

Retention is only for the rest of the year and I’d hope the bad contracts are similar.