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GirlySports · 11-13-2018, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderball

Whether those other venues deserved those upgrades or not... McMahon still needs to be replaced or revamped, a field house is still needed, there still has to be a city contribution to a new Hockey arena... I'm not sure that gets done for less than $350m in Calgary taxpayer contribution. Difference is there won't be capital from the Feds or a bump in tourism to help pay for them.

I dont know if it has to be all taxpayer contribution. You can get creative with ticket taxes and a share of parking. A deal is there.

There is really no bump in tourism for an Olympics. Any of you going to Pyongchang?

For Flames playoffs ganes in a new arena and entertainment district. Hell yeah.

DeluxeMoustache · 11-13-2018, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Thank goodness. There are so many better ways to express civic pride than spending tens of billions of ballooning costs on a ten-day party

Guy living in Ottawa throwing shade towards Calgary with respect to money wasting

Dan02 · 11-13-2018, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

You mean the bridge that is insanely popular with pedestrians and tourists and the subject of many photos representing Calgary or the world class library that we are lucky enough to have in our city?

That's the point, people would have voted the bridge down, yet now it is an iconic part of the city.

The Familia · 11-13-2018, 10:18 PM

I voted yes. In one way I’m happy that we can stick it to the IOC, but I am still mad that Calgary will go back to the rock we have been hiding under for the last half a decade. Our sporting facilities will continue to crumble and we will continue falling further behind. This was one chance to get Quebec and Ontario to pay for some of our stuff but that is gone now. Honestly this city has lost its mojo for sure. There is no grand vision and there are no more dreamers who want to elevate this city. Let’s do everything for as cheap and boring as possible. When we do get cool things like the Peace Bridge and the library people cry until the cows come home.

Mr.Coffee · 11-13-2018, 10:18 PM

This is a reflection of how Calgarians are feeling.

Pretty beat up, simply put. They’ve had the whole country turn their back on them and it’s been what, 5, 6 years of everybody telling Calgary that they can’t get projects done?

I think this was as much a message on the economy to all 3 levels of government as it was a vote to host the Olympics as silly as that sounds. People are legitimately in fear for their long term economic future and it’s been years, literally, of governments and people crapping all over Calgary.

Cecil Terwilliger · 11-13-2018, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan02

That's the point, people would have voted the bridge down, yet now it is an iconic part of the city.

It didn’t cost a billion dollars and support a corrupt organization screwing over our city.

H2SO4(aq) · 11-13-2018, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Don't worry guys, I'm sure the UCP has a plan to fix everything.

??? What does this have to do with it?

GGG · 11-13-2018, 10:19 PM

The IOC doesn’t have billions to contribute. They make about 4.5 billion on a four year cycle and spend 900 million on the winter games which represent about 20% of the athletes. The only question would be could you get more in cash and less in services and are those services provided really necessary. But from a high level the IOC doesn’t have an extra billion to cover the games complete OPEX.

burn_this_city · 11-13-2018, 10:19 PM

If this went to vote 5 years ago when the economy was good I think it goes forward.

Johnny Makarov · 11-13-2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

You mean the bridge that is insanely popular with pedestrians and tourists and the subject of many photos representing Calgary or the world class library that we are lucky enough to have in our city?

I think he was being sarcastic. My thanks are on the line!!

GirlySports · 11-13-2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Funny twisting of the numbers there.

I would be shocked at an appetite for blowing money on an arena after this.

People love the Flames its year round and makes money. As I said, we can get creative with ticket taxes or sell bonds etc...its not all tax money like this Olympic bid was.

Mr.Coffee · 11-13-2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

10s of billions? haha. I sure hope you aren't majoring in economics or accounting.

Over 10B woulda been in the realm of possibility no?

Red · 11-13-2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

The numbers were mentioned above. The city was willing to put in 250 mil for a 5000 seat arena and some upgrades for a 2 week party. That's what the Flames are asking for for a new arena for 30 years.

No, the Flames are on their own. It was always about the olympics. You have to look past the charades. These bids and proposals timing were not a coincidence. Now that the city voted no, the deal is dead.

Flames Draft Watcher · 11-13-2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

There is really no bump in tourism for an Olympics. Any of you going to Pyongchang?

Excuse me? Are you trying to argue nobody from outside the province would come to the Olympics? That's a bold faced lie.

Yoho · 11-13-2018, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

You mean the bridge that is insanely popular with pedestrians and tourists and the subject of many photos representing Calgary or the world class library that we are lucky enough to have in our city?

Yes that’s them. I’d vote to funnel that money to a new stadium or MacMahan in a second. Just imagine the same photo ops you could have to represent the city.

GGG · 11-13-2018, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Excuse me? Are you trying to argue nobody from outside the province would come to the Olympics? That's a bold faced lie.

I believe she is talking post games bump.

GirlySports · 11-13-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Excuse me? Are you trying to argue nobody from outside the province would come to the Olympics? That's a bold faced lie.

For that two week bump yes.
But not after that.

An entertainment district would be better.

nik- · 11-13-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

You mean the bridge that is insanely popular with pedestrians and tourists and the subject of many photos representing Calgary or the world class library that we are lucky enough to have in our city?

Peace Bridge! REEEEEEEEEEE!

Wormius · 11-13-2018, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

People love the Flames its year round and makes money. As I said, we can get creative with ticket taxes or sell bonds etc...its not all tax money like this Olympic bid was.

Again, if this is really the case the owners don’t need our money.

chemgear · 11-13-2018, 10:24 PM

Of this whole process, I was really disappointed by Nenshi continuing to make the laughable 10 to 1 return on investment claims to the end as part of his public sell job. It's pretty sad to see such a transparent falsehood being peddled by our mayor.