2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

But couldn't our scouts scout those players in another's system and make their assesment?

that's where it kinda gets iffy and pro scouts get involved etc. there's a lot more layers to it. kinda like renovating a house or building fresh from the ground up. you'd like to think you can renovate a house to be as good as the one built from scratch but often times, it's just not the same.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

But couldn't our scouts scout those players in another's system and make their assesment?

Yeah has to be a list of x number of players from drafts say 2020-2023 that the scouts wished they'd gotten their hands on.

[NewFan]

I always thought our pro scouts are not good. Especially to find young player that who is looking for opportunity in other teams.
But lately it sounds Treliving made Main decisions about trade returns and free agents. So I hope Conroy listen more his pro scouts when he is dealing.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I always thought our pro scouts are not good. Especially to find young player that who is looking for opportunity in other teams.
But lately it sounds Treliving made Main decisions about trade returns and free agents. So I hope Conroy listen more his pro scouts when he is dealing.

Look no further than the players he went and got when he joined Toronto.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah the more I hear about Treliving the more I think he really trusted Conroy, Pascall, Button and the amateur scouts to help with the decisions on drafting and doing the amateur leg work.

But when it came to the actual roster and the Flames team those decisions were more made by him. Also appears like we had a really small pro scouting group which they really added to once Conroy became GM.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah has to be a list of x number of players from drafts say 2020-2023 that the scouts wished they'd gotten their hands on.

I would agree with this, if our amateur scouts were like “ya we really wanted Buick in 2021 but he was gone by the time we picked at 45” or “we really like Wallinder but he was long gone by our pick at 50” that would be totally fine. If it is a situation where it is just a former high pick from an organization that has a terrible track record of finding players with their high picks that would be more dubious.

[jg13]

Not going to get anything significant back if they're not dangling their 1st. Nobody wants their prospects. Wonder if they'd try to move Bouchard.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1727746742572188002

[trackercowe]

Leafs officially move Klingberg to LTIR. Luckily enough for them that solves all their cap problems! It's almost as if this is exactly what they wanted...

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by jg13

Not going to get anything significant back if they're not dangling their 1st. Nobody wants their prospects. Wonder if they'd try to move Bouchard.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1727746742572188002

lets hope they burn their cupboard bare trying to get players to play with McDrai and those two are gone within 2 years.

[SuperMatt18]

Looking at the Oilers...

They have their 1st in 2024, 2025, and 2026.

2nd in 2024 and 2025.

Honestly I'd be asking for their unprotected 2026 1st. If Leon and McDavid leave then that pick will be valuable.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by jg13

Not going to get anything significant back if they're not dangling their 1st. Nobody wants their prospects. Wonder if they'd try to move Bouchard.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1727746742572188002

I think most teams view Bouchard the same way they did Tyson Barrie as a free agent in 2021 after leading the league in points by a Dman.

Inflated one dimensional stats.

Edmonton consistently overvalues all their prospects, nothing will happen until it’s completely evident their assets are worth nothing.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by jg13

Not going to get anything significant back if they're not dangling their 1st. Nobody wants their prospects. Wonder if they'd try to move Bouchard.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1727746742572188002

Ya, basically saying we won't give you anything of actual value but bail us out. Good luck.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Don't know if they can swing the type of trade that changes their fortunes without making their 1st available

The current prospects are 1b/1c types at best.

[Burning Beard]

Hahaha it's like the world's sh###iest garage sale!

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Don't know if they can swing the type of trade that changes their fortunes without making their 1st available

The current prospects are 1b/1c types at best.

I agree. Their best bet is to trade their first and have it top 5 protected. Teams might pay up hoping that it's still a top 10 pick.

They have nothing to offer in players especially with Holloway out long term again. 2nds can dd you nice pieces but not if you have to dump salary back.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Nm redundant

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Hahaha it's like the world's sh###iest garage sale!

[Icon]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Wonder how many Giordanos are in there these days?

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If you look long enough you can spot Bouchard and Nurse in there Where's Waldo style.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I was playing "spot things with any monetary value" and I must say it was challenging lol

Just like GMs looking at the Oilers organization outside of McDrai