[GT] Canada Election 2025

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by edslunch

How attractive is the oil sands product in the world market? Honest question.

Refined. Very. Refineries are in New Brunswick.

Unrefined. Probably still very.

Canada is seen as a very stable source of power.

One thing that I would add to the discussion, is that Europe is taking the threat of Russia very seriously. Having oil, and LNG coming from Canada would be a great help to any defense effort. It would massively shift the power dynamic (concerning resources) away from questionable sources, and toward us. Friendly Canada!

Russia is also a threat to the North, for us.
US is a threat to the South.

Tying ourselves in a real way, to Europe, would be an extremely intelligent move. It would actually be stupid to not do this as soon as possible.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Refined. Very. Refineries are in New Brunswick.

Unrefined. Probably still very.

Canada is seen as a very stable source of power.

One thing that I would add to the discussion, is that Europe is taking the threat of Russia very seriously. Having oil, and LNG coming from Canada would be a great help to any defense effort. It would massively shift the power dynamic (concerning resources) away from questionable sources, and toward us. Friendly Canada!

Russia is also a threat to the North, for us.
US is a threat to the South.

Tying ourselves in a real way, to Europe, would be an extremely intelligent move. It would actually be stupid to not do this as soon as possible.

Should have been done the day Russia invaded.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

The sad part is that I don’t think he can even call and ask that pizza place for his job back.

Thank goodness someone who cares about unemployment and homelessness won. Poilievre will get the support he needs.

Do you think Carney will change the EI rules so that Pierre can get some monthly support since he is out of a job considering that they don't pay any premiums?

[Wormius]

MPs get a $15k career transition allowance. That’s practically a year of EI for most normal folks.

[Mathgod]

The NDP actually finish with more total votes than the Bloc, yet less than 1/3 of the seats the Bloc has.

I'm in favour of moving to some sort of proportional representation.

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The NDP actually finish with more total votes than the Bloc, yet less than 1/3 of the seats the Bloc has.

I'm in favour of moving to some sort of proportional representation.

Well, I mean, the Bloc only runs in Quebec..

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Refined. Very. Refineries are in New Brunswick.

Unrefined. Probably still very.

Canada is seen as a very stable source of power.

One thing that I would add to the discussion, is that Europe is taking the threat of Russia very seriously. Having oil, and LNG coming from Canada would be a great help to any defense effort. It would massively shift the power dynamic (concerning resources) away from questionable sources, and toward us. Friendly Canada!

Russia is also a threat to the North, for us.
US is a threat to the South.

Tying ourselves in a real way, to Europe, would be an extremely intelligent move. It would actually be stupid to not do this as soon as possible.

If anyone is interested I just found this source: https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-an...on-system.html

Informative, and I assume free of political bias, but who knows? Lots of entry level info there.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The NDP actually finish with more total votes than the Bloc, yet less than 1/3 of the seats the Bloc has.

I'm in favour of moving to some sort of proportional representation.

.... if they only ran in Noneofit, they would be batting 100%!

[Mathgod]

I don't really get what kind of point you two are trying to make. Are you saying it's fine that a party that gets 6.3% of the national vote only ends up with 2% of the seats?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Sorry I think you are wrong.

The sole 4 years of NDP Gov't was snub at the Redford Conservative Party at that time. Between 1971 and now Alberta has always voted blue.

I don't think Albertans are smart or strategic when it comes to Federal voting.

Wasn't there also a split of the parties on the right?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Wasn't there also a split of the parties on the right?

A split doesn't doesn't entirely explain it because the ABNDP managed to get a whole lot of net-new voters, you have to look at numbers for both 2012 and 2015 to get a sense of what actually happened.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I always thought Brian Mulroney's daughter seemed decent and was on that track at one point, but then she just kind of disappeared. I wonder what happened.

I don't know anything about Ben Mulroney except when he was on ET Canada or whatever that show was. Is it safe to assume he is a progressive conservative?

Funnily enough, Ben Mulroney and Justin Trudeau are apparently really good friends. Which makes sense because they are only 4 years apart and would have been in a lot of the same circles growing up in Ottawa. There are a few pictures of them online hanging out as young adults and they looked close. He was also a noted guest at Justin Trudeau's wedding.

His daughter is an MPP in Ontario.

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Does a pipeline need to go through Quebec? A line direct to Ontario consumers should be enough no?

There is a pipeline to Ontario already but it goes through the US since that is an easier route to get to the population centers and avoid Canada shield. Edmonton to Wisconsin; Wisconsin to Sarnia, Ontario. There is also a pipeline that goes from Sarnia to Montreal.

I'm not an oil guy - but I assume they'd want more volume to go through than possible rather than just figuring out how to extend from Montreal to New Brunswick assuming oil tankers can't get all the way to Montreal from the Ocean. And obviously would prefer to bypass the US for security - although a lot more expensive to go that route. There are refineries in both Sarnia and Montreal

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The NDP actually finish with more total votes than the Bloc, yet less than 1/3 of the seats the Bloc has.

I'm in favour of moving to some sort of proportional representation.

I just want electoral reform to keep the fascists out of power indefinitely. No more vote splitting to let the cons sneak in.

[Monahammer]

The liberals will never do electoral reform because it likely means that they'll always have to consider NDP policy priorities, and will lose the ability in the future to scare voters into their tent with the Conservative boogieman. Instead they'll dangle it occasionally as a salve when they bring out the boogiman tactic.

The cons will never do electoral reform because it essentially guarantees that they'd never win an election again.

[Monahammer]

I am glad that they won this election personally, but ultimately the liberal party has always shown that they are a party that is extremely pompous and self interested. They will most definitely put the future of their party above the needs or interests of canadians, as they have time and time again. Even though they know it would essentially lock the conservatives in a closet, they won't do it because it removes their easiest path to holding power.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

something like this?

https://public.tableau.com/app/profi...esults/Explore

Tableau Public is a good resource for almost anything. This is only 2004-2015. Email the guy and ask him to add more years!

That's exactly what I was looking for. Many thanks.

[FlamesAddiction]

I would have been a little more worried about how PP would handle Trump. I think Carney has a better handle on it and is more likely to stand up to him. But to be honest, I am not thrilled with any of the choices or jumping for joy because the Liberals won. Like it's not an exciting option by any means.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The NDP actually finish with more total votes than the Bloc, yet less than 1/3 of the seats the Bloc has.

I'm in favour of moving to some sort of proportional representation.

It is frustrating that the promise of electoral reform is still outstanding. For 100 years the parties have been promising it and failing to follow through.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-...representation

I would love to have a ballot where I can vote for my local representative (strategically) and then also select my party of choice for the non-riding seats.

If I were in the NDP, I would make this my #1 demand for supporting this Liberal government.

[bizaro86]

Thinking about the game theory options, I suspect Carney will be able to govern pretty much however he wants without interference. 169 is so close to a majority that the other parties can all bluster about how the Liberals are terrible and vote against them. And as long as a couple of opposition MPs are unavailable every confidence vote it'll still pass. Since they don't actually want another election and people really do get sick, have family emergencies, or move to Oklahoma, it won't be an issue.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Wolven

It is frustrating that the promise of electoral reform is still outstanding. For 100 years the parties have been promising it and failing to follow through.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-...representation

I would love to have a ballot where I can vote for my local representative (strategically) and then also select my party of choice for the non-riding seats.

If I were in the NDP, I would make this my #1 demand for supporting this Liberal government.

Since the Liberals have by far the most to lose from that change you can be sure they'll never support it.


If you divided seats by popular vote this election:

Liberals: -19
Cpc: -2
BQ: even
NDP: +15
Green: +3
PPC: +2

Doesn't add up as the fringe parties/independents got some popular votes but no seats.

Edited to add: the bigger problem is that fringe parties that get no votes because they have no chance will start getting seats. Under proportional represenation I'd expect fringe parties (communist, Christian heritage) to get the odd seat, but more worryingly single-issue parties would as well (eg Pro Life Party)