CP Lockout Mafia - Game Over - Players Win!

[stazzy33]

Originally Posted by octothorp

If we lynch Stazzy and he is NHL: Again, singled out Dissentowner, plus Anduril, as guys he would be willing to vote for. So if Stazzy's mafia, they're probably safe.
Here's what's curious though: after the Regulator vote, he said 'we should be suspicious of whoever didn't vote for Regulator.' Players still playing who didn't vote for Regulator are HalifaxDrunk, Aeneas, Agulati, and Blaster. So if he is NHL, it's unlikely he would have thrown other NHL under the bus. (Unless he was only thinking of himself when he said it). So if he turns out to be mafia, it's a slight checkmark (not total exoneration) for those guys. As well, he voted UCB way back on day one, so it's also slight exoneration for UCB if he's mafia.

My reasoning on the Regulator 'we should be suspicious comment' was that there was no way mafia would vote for the kingpin of their whole organization, it just doesn't make sense for them to vote out such a pivotal player that early in the game.

The only thing I can see making sense is that regulator knew he was going and told the rest of the mafia members to vote him to throw the players off. It just doesn't make sense to me for any mafia members to vote for guy running the show.

[HalifaxDrunk]

Originally Posted by stazzy33

As Semin I get a hot and cold streak. On the nights I am hot I get to block a players actions, so that's why I have been trying to pinpoint the assassin, so if I can block his actions we'll know for sure who it is. On the nights that I am cold (the night after I have used my hot streak) I get a message in the night post.

So are you hot tonight? Block octo and save me. This way I can use my other ability to pick a target and see if an action was taken against them.

[stazzy33]

Originally Posted by HalifaxDrunk

So are you hot tonight? Block octo and save me. This way I can use my other ability to pick a target and see if an action was taken against them.

Yes I am hot tonight, but the Mafia could still take you out.

We need to come to a consensus on who to block before we get to night.

[dsavillian]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Or is it possible you pick players and take away their ability to present any idea or defence is a coherent manner?

Heh, yes. Very possible.

I've missed scum every time it seems, which is unfortunate. Not for lack of trying though.

Night 1 was SP because there were a lot of fingers being pointed at him. His style didn't really detract from his ability to contribute to the conversation though.

Night 2 was octo and it was a lame 3rd party thing. Didn't achieve much. I targeted him because he was in the block of initial voters I thought I had found.

Night 3 was CC as Arnold Schwarzenegger, again because he had lots of fingers pointed at him.

Night 4 was dissentowner as Hulk Hogan because I thought he was trying to fly under the radar. He's only posted twice since, neither of which have contributed anything.

[dsavillian]

Roleblocker is a common role on both sides, so don't take that as gospel that stazzy is a player.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by dsavillian

Heh, yes. Very possible.

I've missed scum every time it seems, which is unfortunate. Not for lack of trying though.

Night 1 was SP because there were a lot of fingers being pointed at him. His style didn't really detract from his ability to contribute to the conversation though.

Night 2 was octo and it was a lame 3rd party thing. Didn't achieve much. I targeted him because he was in the block of initial voters I thought I had found.

Night 3 was CC as Arnold Schwarzenegger, again because he had lots of fingers pointed at him.

Night 4 was dissentowner as Hulk Hogan because I thought he was trying to fly under the radar. He's only posted twice since, neither of which have contributed anything.

Interesting, it reads as a very successful mafia or a crappy player......

[Aeneas]

Didnt notice the Octothorp one.

I used (wasted) my power on Hockeyguy and Strombad. Just thought they talked too much.

I have yet to track someone who did a nightkill. So I have no evidence of who may be the assassin or mafia.

Don't think it is a strong power until the players are fewer. Better odds now than at the start.

[dsavillian]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Interesting, it reads as a very successful mafia or a crappy player......

Yep. It has helped me eliminate hunches though.

I'm also looking for a good laugh too.

[dsavillian]

Man, looking back, aside from nailing regulator I've been off on a bunch of my theories.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Interesting, it reads as a very successful mafia or a crappy player......

I honestly would have used that role the exact same way as dsavillian has. During those days, those players appeared to be suspects

[Wood]

So how many trackers are there typically in a game? Because there's apparently 3 now. Lego Guy was one for sure, and now Aeneas and HD are as well

HDs "Backup" role doesn't make much sense. What if you were killed before Lego Guy? That doesn't seem like a fair ability to you

[HalifaxDrunk]

Originally Posted by Wood

So how many trackers are there typically in a game? Because there's apparently 3 now. Lego Guy was one for sure, and now Aeneas and HD are as well

HDs "Backup" role doesn't make much sense. What if you were killed before Lego Guy? That doesn't seem like a fair ability to you

I'm not a tracker, I'm a watcher. I can only watch someone and identify a person who does something to them (but not what was done). I think a tracker picks someone and sees what they do.

[HalifaxDrunk]

Originally Posted by Wood

HDs "Backup" role doesn't make much sense. What if you were killed before Lego Guy? That doesn't seem like a fair ability to you

Tell me about it, beside knowing he was also a player it was in my best interest to keep Legoman alive. I didn't know how to do that besides pointing at other people I was suspicious of. With no inside track on info I didn't want to say much.

[Wood]

Sorry HD I got mixed up. It was Oling who was also a tracker, and now Aeneas is also

[octothorp]

So to go through the abilities revealed so far:
Blaster: claims mason (confirmed by flameswin)
Octothorp: claims one-shot kill (used on huntingwhale)
Wood: claims tirepumper/mason (confirmed by undercoverbrother)
Undercoverbrother: claims tirepumper/mason (confirmed by wood)
Aeneas: claims tracker
dsavillain: claims writing-style changer (confirmed by octothorp)
Halifax Drunk: claims backup/tracker
Stazzy: claims hot/cold streak

As well, accusations/suspicions:
Octothorp: accused of vigilante (by HD)
Wood: suspected sibling (by octothorp)
Undercoverbrother: suspected sibling (by octothorp)


People who haven't revealed roles:
Anduril, agulati, activestick, dissentowner.

With this post, I'm just listing what we know, I'm not suggesting that you guys who haven't revealed should do so. I lean towards thinking all of you guys are players, so use your own discretion about using/revealing your roles.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by octothorp

I think the important thing at this point is making sure that we make sure that whoever we kill, the death tells us as much as possible.

If we lynch Aeneas and he is NHL: This probably makes Dissentowner a safe player, as well as Blaster and myself, as we were guys that Aeneas tried to shift attention to yesterday. I'd also be willing to downgrade my suspicions on UCB a little. Not a lot.

If we lynch Stazzy and he is NHL: Again, singled out Dissentowner, plus Anduril, as guys he would be willing to vote for. So if Stazzy's mafia, they're probably safe.
Here's what's curious though: after the Regulator vote, he said 'we should be suspicious of whoever didn't vote for Regulator.' Players still playing who didn't vote for Regulator are HalifaxDrunk, Aeneas, Agulati, and Blaster. So if he is NHL, it's unlikely he would have thrown other NHL under the bus. (Unless he was only thinking of himself when he said it). So if he turns out to be mafia, it's a slight checkmark (not total exoneration) for those guys. As well, he voted UCB way back on day one, so it's also slight exoneration for UCB if he's mafia.

If we lynch HalifaxDrunk and he is NHL: As always, gives us very little to go on but did single-out Dissentowner. As well, people who had previously expressed concerns about HD are then exonerated: myself, activestick, dsavillain (none of whom were real suspects, anyway).

It's very interesting that none of these three tried to shift attention to one-another.

Harder to make connections about what it means if we vote for one of these guys and they're players. I'm going through and not finding anything, but will look again tomorrow and see if anything pops out.

Further correction to this post:
I said that none of these guys implicated one-another. Correction: Aeneas did say that he suspected Stazzy of being the assassin. So that's a slight suggestion that Stazzy and Aeneas are not both mafia.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by stazzy33

Well voting for Dissentowner or Andruil means I am not being voted for, so that's sort of a plus from the player's side.

What I said was that because I am so quiet it doesn't make sense to take me out.

As Semin I get a hot and cold streak. On the nights I am hot I get to block a players actions, so that's why I have been trying to pinpoint the assassin, so if I can block his actions we'll know for sure who it is. On the nights that I am cold (the night after I have used my hot streak) I get a message in the night post.

That weird message on night two about "the players have evened it up late in the second" was mine. I meant it as the players had lost two members and we had just killed off another mafia, meaning they had lost two members as well.

So far I have blocked the actions of Blaster86 and Strombad, neither of which were the assassin (as far as I am aware).

Hopefully this clears everything up, let me know who we should target on the next night and if we only have one kill over the night, then we should know who the assassin is.

For what it's worth Stazzy, I don't think that you're NHL. But I still do think that you're one of the top 3 guys most likely to be vote candidate today. I'm going to argue against voting for you, in part because I think that other candidates are better, and in part because I think this is a really useful ability and if you're telling the truth, it would suck for us to lose it. (Although I do worry now that you'll be the next assassin target). And if you make it to your 'cold' night, we can see if that part of your story holds up.

This ability is just a little too odd for someone looking to save their skin to make up. It's more likely that a mafia lying about their ability is going to choose more common, believable abilities.

[Wood]

With stazzys role, I would assume mafia would now kill him at night since its a pretty good one, and if not he can prove hes a player to us if he needs to with his message on the next cold night.

Right now I think Aeneas is the best bet

What do we know about Anduril, agulati and Dissentowner? Not suspicious of them, but don't really know much about them

[HalifaxDrunk]

Originally Posted by octothorp

(Although I do worry now that you'll be the next assassin target).

Haha, can't decide on your next target?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by octothorp

People who haven't revealed roles:
Anduril, agulati, activestick, dissentowner.

You know brother I was given the power to scan a alignment of somebody after they went to the big guy in the sky and I used it on CC after he was down and out brother and he was a player through and through dude. That is why I said CC was a brother...brother. I have been thinking long and hard brothers and it scars me deep inside that anyone might think I am not battling for the powers of good. With the whole world watching I will prove the players are going to bodyslam the owners and when I drop the big leg on the assassin as well we are going to be at the very top of the mountain. Watcha gonna do!