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[dsavillian]

One last post before I crash

My top 2 suspects, in no particular order, are

Aeneas and stazzy with HalifaxDrunk as an honorable mention.

[dsavillian]

Originally Posted by Anduril

First time I saw himself declaring as a player I thought it was weird. Didn't notice the second time though.







Frankly I have a hard time believing this unless you're able to prove a little more than Octo's bit.

That's the best I can do proof wise. Every other one was super obvious and I am wagering that no one picked up on Shea Weber's 3rd person talk

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by dsavillian

My ability is kind of funny actually.

I can make people post in a hilarious style of my choosing.

I know I know, I could be claiming it since it's kind of obvious (Don Cherry, Arnie, Hulk Hogan)... but I bet you missed one in there. Octothorp's 3rd person posting on day 2.

Octo can confirm that he was forced to talk in the 3rd person, but can't confirm that it was me that made him. That should be enough though.

Haha, awesome. I regret that I didn't post more that day, but it was a really short day and I was away for most of it. Being a grammer geek, I bombarded Mazrim with questions about what exactly the third-person voice meant... so no second-voice either, meaning I can't say things like 'what do you think'? And so no second-person imperative, like 'vote for so-and-so'? I was totally paranoid about slipping up and being modkilled, then Mazrim informed me that those worries were sort of the spirit of the command. I never knew if it was from him or another player.

(I wasn't allowed to reveal this role, but I confirmed with Mazrim that it's okay to talk about after dsavillain revealed it.)

[Wood]

Originally Posted by dsavillian

hmm, twice in one post.

and what's so obvious about voting for Dissentowner or Andruil?

Why would you think that the mafia would take you out for being quiet?

And finally, what makes you think you are up next for a lynching?

I can't remember the reason why, but I had Stazzy pegged on the mafia side of my list pretty early. That post seems pretty defensive and vague. The vague and dismissive posting style is what made Timbo a target, I think this could be a similar situation

Stazzy is supposedly Semin. I'm not gonna judge based on player names anymore though after Schiefele

[dsavillian]

Alexander Ovechkin thinks this is amusing.

this pleases him.

[dsavillian]

If the 5 of us are a solid, 100% certain player group, we control the fate of the voting. It would take all of the remaining mafia, the assassin AND the remaining players all working together to hammer one of us.

Whatever we do, I think we need to be united.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Yeah, I did note that. If you had a relatively weak power, I don't see why you wouldn't have admitted it, since it would have made you a less useful target for the mafia. On the other hand, if I'm right that you guys are siblings, then you would have been totally trying to hide it, since it would make you an assassin target.

But your abilities would then function exactly the same as Flameswin and Blaster? A second mason faction?

Maybe others who have played mafia more can chime in (do we still have people who have played it much, or are they all dead?), but how likely is it that there are two separate factions of masons? Which is more likely? That, or one pair of masons and one pair of siblings?

And you know we aren't allowed to directly quote PMs from Mazrim in thread. I know you know this because you and Strombad already talked about it once.

However, since you did, I'm curious if Blaster can confirm that the wording is the same as on his role PM.

Like I said in my blaster post, that's another reason I thought it was weird that they have the same ability, just a different name. As far as our roles say we can PM each other, that's about it. Just a back story on Luongo and Tim having to get along and pump each other's tires (I'm guessing Mazrim made our role when they were teammates for a couple days) and there's no sibling type rules applied. We're just a plain mason type role

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Wood

I can't remember the reason why, but I had Stazzy pegged on the mafia side of my list pretty early. That post seems pretty defensive and vague. The vague and dismissive posting style is what made Timbo a target, I think this could be a similar situation

Stazzy is supposedly Semin. I'm not gonna judge based on player names anymore though after Schiefele

The only time we've had teammates is flameswin and Blaster with the Mason ability. I can't help but to think that there should also be some sort of connected ability between stazzy and dsullivan. Not strong reasoning but slowly adding up.

In regards to multiple Mason pairs, that's not uncommon especially depending on the numbers.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Anduril

The only time we've had teammates is flameswin and Blaster with the Mason ability. I can't help but to think that there should also be some sort of connected ability between stazzy and dsullivan. Not strong reasoning but slowly adding up.

In regards to multiple Mason pairs, that's not uncommon especially depending on the numbers.

Semin plays for Carolina

At this point I think Stazzy is likely managment, and unless Aeneas can prove he is a tracker I don't trust him either

[Anduril]

Derp. Why did I forget that?

[octothorp]

I think the important thing at this point is making sure that we make sure that whoever we kill, the death tells us as much as possible.

If we lynch Aeneas and he is NHL: This probably makes Dissentowner a safe player, as well as Blaster and myself, as we were guys that Aeneas tried to shift attention to yesterday. I'd also be willing to downgrade my suspicions on UCB a little. Not a lot.

If we lynch Stazzy and he is NHL: Again, singled out Dissentowner, plus Anduril, as guys he would be willing to vote for. So if Stazzy's mafia, they're probably safe.
Here's what's curious though: after the Regulator vote, he said 'we should be suspicious of whoever didn't vote for Regulator.' Players still playing who didn't vote for Regulator are HalifaxDrunk, Aeneas, Agulati, and Blaster. So if he is NHL, it's unlikely he would have thrown other NHL under the bus. (Unless he was only thinking of himself when he said it). So if he turns out to be mafia, it's a slight checkmark (not total exoneration) for those guys. As well, he voted UCB way back on day one, so it's also slight exoneration for UCB if he's mafia.

If we lynch HalifaxDrunk and he is NHL: As always, gives us very little to go on but did single-out Dissentowner. As well, people who had previously expressed concerns about HD are then exonerated: myself, activestick, dsavillain (none of whom were real suspects, anyway).

It's very interesting that none of these three tried to shift attention to one-another.

Harder to make connections about what it means if we vote for one of these guys and they're players. I'm going through and not finding anything, but will look again tomorrow and see if anything pops out.

[octothorp]

Oops, correction on the above post: I mean if Aeneas turns out to be a player, I'd be willing to downgrade my suspicions of undercoverbrother a little.

[HalifaxDrunk]

OK for some reason I keep turning up as a suspect. This may have been because I haven’t made many accusations, without any powers I never had much to go on. It made me wonder how so many people seem to have so much inside info I kept missing.

My role is a Backup, I am/was LegoMan’s backup. Once Legoman was killed I was PM’d Watcher abilities. Until now I was bummed that I didn’t have cool abilities like seemingly everyone else. Therefore I may have gone a bit crazy as I already used 2 of them. Unfortunately both are 1 time use hidden abilities, fortunately they were VERY helpful.

I PM’ed a couple questions to Mazrim:

• First ability allowed me to learn who targeted a player (but not what actions taken on them). I asked who targeted Legoman finally giving me my abilities?
• My second ability allows for a player investigation during the day (not just at night). After his GIANT post tossing accusations out left and right I asked for octothorp’s role.

Answers:

• Who targeted Legoman? = octothorp
• octothorp’s role = octothorp is a Vigilante.

Both PMs reviled the same person, it seems octo can kill both at day and also at night! As a Vigilante you have to go, these multiple night kills have to stop. With this reveal I’m positive octo will kill me tonight, please don’t let him take me out, I am not Scum, he is. I have a feeling the Mafia will take me out tonight now that my abilities are known.

VOTE: octothorpe

On the chance I do stay alive through the night what is the consensus on who I should pick is a target of a nightly ability. I won't know what action was taken to the target but can reveal who is doing things at night. Then they will have to explain what they were up to.

[dsavillian]

Oh Halifax, why didn't you target Aeneas to see if he was telling the truth about being a tracker?

We already knew octo was a vigilante. We just didn't know that he was also given the ability to night kill.


Vigilantes are usually players, not scum. This would eliminate our whole theory that there's an assassin.

[undercoverbrother]

Dsavillian how/why did you decide to use your gibberish talk power on each player?

[HalifaxDrunk]

Originally Posted by dsavillian

Oh Halifax, why didn't you target Aeneas to see if he was telling the truth about being a tracker?

We already knew octo was a vigilante. We just didn't know that he was also given the ability to night kill.


Vigilantes are usually players, not scum. This would eliminate our whole theory that there's an assassin.

Damn, good point. Without having powers available before I wasn't sure he was a vigilante or just had some random super-power. Made me think others may also have similar power things.

[HalifaxDrunk]

It was purely self-preservation as octo has targeted me.

[dsavillian]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Dsavillian how/why did you decide to use your gibberish talk power on each player?

I pick targets I suspect could be mafia in the hopes that they draw attention to themselves and slip up when the pressure is on.

[stazzy33]

Originally Posted by dsavillian

hmm, twice in one post.

and what's so obvious about voting for Dissentowner or Andruil?

Why would you think that the mafia would take you out for being quiet?

And finally, what makes you think you are up next for a lynching?

Well voting for Dissentowner or Andruil means I am not being voted for, so that's sort of a plus from the player's side.

What I said was that because I am so quiet it doesn't make sense to take me out.

I am surprised the mafia haven't taken me out yet but because I have been so quiet it's probably worth more taking out the more active players.

As Semin I get a hot and cold streak. On the nights I am hot I get to block a players actions, so that's why I have been trying to pinpoint the assassin, so if I can block his actions we'll know for sure who it is. On the nights that I am cold (the night after I have used my hot streak) I get a message in the night post.

That weird message on night two about "the players have evened it up late in the second" was mine. I meant it as the players had lost two members and we had just killed off another mafia, meaning they had lost two members as well.

So far I have blocked the actions of Blaster86 and Strombad, neither of which were the assassin (as far as I am aware).

Hopefully this clears everything up, let me know who we should target on the next night and if we only have one kill over the night, then we should know who the assassin is.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by dsavillian

I pick targets I suspect could be mafia in the hopes that they draw attention to themselves and slip up when the pressure is on.

Or is it possible you pick players and take away their ability to present any idea or defence is a coherent manner?