Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[calgarygeologist]

I'm assuming the candidate listing on the Alberta Elections website is now finalized since the deadline was Thursday? Looks like the candidate for the Alberta Party that was supposedly running for Varsity is out of the race. If so I'm pretty disappointed and have no party to vote for.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm assuming the candidate listing on the Alberta Elections website is now finalized since the deadline was Thursday? Looks like the candidate for the Alberta Party that was supposedly running for Varsity is out of the race. If so I'm pretty disappointed and have no party to vote for.

She dropped out due to a health issue, I think.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

https://twitter.com/user/status/1657527972130340864

I've never really thought of Trump as a guy who says "okayy" like a goof after every second sentence. Weaksauce impression.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Slava

She dropped out due to a health issue, I think.

Well that stinks.

[Cube Inmate]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm assuming the candidate listing on the Alberta Elections website is now finalized since the deadline was Thursday? Looks like the candidate for the Alberta Party that was supposedly running for Varsity is out of the race. If so I'm pretty disappointed and have no party to vote for.

Then don't vote. Really simple. If your legitimately can't make a clear decision between what are the only two actual options, then stay home. Or, if your conscience forces you to vote, spoil your ballot.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Cube Inmate

Then don't vote. Really simple. If your legitimately can't make a clear decision between what are the only two actual options, then stay home. Or, if your conscience forces you to vote, spoil your ballot.

Decline your ballot, don't spoil it. A declined ballot actually matters, a spoiled ballot is a waste of time.

[The Fisher Account]

The fact that Danielle Smith even devoted one second to THINKING about Artur Pawlowski should automatically dissuade anyone from voting for her

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm assuming the candidate listing on the Alberta Elections website is now finalized since the deadline was Thursday? Looks like the candidate for the Alberta Party that was supposedly running for Varsity is out of the race. If so I'm pretty disappointed and have no party to vote for.

I’d vote for whoever you consider the lesser of two evils. That’s my strategy.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm assuming the candidate listing on the Alberta Elections website is now finalized since the deadline was Thursday? Looks like the candidate for the Alberta Party that was supposedly running for Varsity is out of the race. If so I'm pretty disappointed and have no party to vote for.

There is a NDP candidate running in that riding so really no issue for you even if the Alberta Party candidate didn't drop out.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Another consideration is that many people in the party support the NDP and the traditional views associated with the NDP party both Federal and Provincial so why would they change the name if they support it?

Yes Notley disagrees with certain things that Singh says at the Federal level but that doesn't change that for the vast majority of the people involved with the party are left of centre and believe in the things that a NDP party represent.

Fair enough, but the NDP isn't competitive federally in Alberta at all. A provincial NDP with the same substance and style as the Federal NDP wouldn't be competitive in this election, even against the worst conservative leader in history.

Provincially the NDP needs to decide whether they want to be competitive in Alberta or stay true to their far left roots, because they can't have both. Seems like they're picking competitive to me, although I think changing the name would help with that.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Fair enough, but the NDP isn't competitive federally in Alberta at all. A provincial NDP with the same substance and style as the Federal NDP wouldn't be competitive in this election, even against the worst conservative leader in history.

Provincially the NDP needs to decide whether they want to be competitive in Alberta or stay true to their far left roots, because they can't have both. Seems like they're picking competitive to me, although I think changing the name would help with that.

I agree with you. The only reason the NDP are competitive at all is because the UCP is so far right that even traditional Conservatives can't vote for them and the lack of a 3rd party that is actually centre or even centre-left so they are now the default "centre" party even though that doesn't fit with their beliefs or policies.

I think they have moved more to the centre than they would have in the past because they see that gap open but not sure it is a long term strategy for them and will mean that many in that party would have to give up some of their beliefs to stay there. It will be interesting to see how it works out long term as this election could signify a major change in Alberta right wing politics if the UCP loses.

Edit: Sorry I disagree that a federal style NDP party wouldn’t be competitive against Smith, that is not true. They would still get a ton of support in the cities and from any rational voter. As bad as they are they would still be a much better option than the UCP.

[puffnstuff]

I think I will just start calling the ucp the tba.

This election isnt about the brand name. It is about which party will do what for Alberta versus what one party will do to Alberta

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Fair enough, but the NDP isn't competitive federally in Alberta at all. A provincial NDP with the same substance and style as the Federal NDP wouldn't be competitive in this election, even against the worst conservative leader in history.

Provincially the NDP needs to decide whether they want to be competitive in Alberta or stay true to their far left roots, because they can't have both. Seems like they're picking competitive to me, although I think changing the name would help with that.

Could the provincial NDP just change their name though? I know Smith's comments about Jagmeet Singh being Notley's "boss" aren't accurate, but it is true that the federal and provincial NDPs have formal connections, unlike the Liberal and Conservative parties. Changing their name would probably require severing themselves from the federal NDPs.

The Alberta Liberal party would probably benefit from a re-brand though, similar to what the BC Liberal party did by changing the name to BC United.

[BlackArcher101]

What's with this talk of a name change in order to convert people from UCP? Those that say they won't vote for the NDP because of their ties to the federal NDP wouldn't switch regardless. It's an excuse to keep voting UCP, not an excuse to not vote NDP. You could change the color, the name, the person running, they'll continue to vote conservative blue.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Military should be in charge of Healthcare!

Clergy should be in charge of our Justice System!



https://pressprogress.ca/danielle-sm...health-orders/

[Reggie Dunlop]

Basically, if you call yourself a Pastor it's a Get Out Of Jail Free card....

[Amethyst]

If you think a new name will convince UCP supporters to vote for the NDP, you have missed how they keep talking about Notley working for/with Trudeau.

[Slava]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1657907285862268930

Honestly, this is two weeks before she won the leadership, so it’s not ancient history. She’s just completely unhinged.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Half expecting some video surfacing of her supporting the Flat Earth theory.

[Faust]

@sjcalgary

#BREAKING: Danielle Smith says it's "disappointing" that Flat-Earthers aren't being heard and are being shut out of the discussion on school curriculum.
#ableg

https://twitter.com/sjcalgary/status...466814976?s=21