2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[sureLoss]

Dailyfaceoff writer says Flames could be interested in Flyers goalie Kolosov:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1834329045011767418

Kolosov currently skipping Flyers training camp, Seravalli suggest the Flyers might toll the contract.
https://www.inquirer.com/flyers/flye...-20240911.html

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I don't think we can really expect a geekie move for Rasmus.

That'd be nice thou... I mean Connor Geekie sure would look nice in Flames silks. Then get Misa/McQueen in the draft this year and the Flames are set up the middle for at least the next 8 years.

[stemit14]

Looking at top young center prospects around the league that could be targeted in a potential Andersson trade. I’m looking at prospects specifically instead of young NHL centres because any contending team will likely not trade one of them. Keep in mind, it’s also very difficult to get a team o trade any top prospect - let alone a center. And, depending on the prospect, it may mean the flames don’t get much else in the trade. But of the ones I think there could be at least a chance to acquire here’s my list of favourite targets:

1. Nate Danielson (Red Wings) - drafted 9th overall in 2023. Probably the least likely on this list but I would make trade Andersson for Danielson 1-for-1 and I would even be willing to add to the trade on the flames side. Bedard described him as the toughest player to play against in the WHL in his draft year. Big, skilled, smooth-skating and a very complete game. Reminds me of Monahan only a much better skater. Detroit (along with Buffalo) is probably the most desperate team in the league to get back to the post-season. My hope would be that the desperation would make Yzerman willing to pay a high price for Andersson.

2. Konsta Helenius (Sabres) - drafted 14th overall in 2024. Similar to Detroit, my hope would be that Buffalo is so desperate to take a step that they start trading some of their very deep pool of prospects. They already started to do it this summer with the Savoie trade. Helenius has the potential to be a solid 2-way center in the NHL. Likely topping out as a 2nd line center but he has lots of potential.

3. Calum Ritchie (Avalanche) - drafted 27th overall in 2023. Had a fantastic D+1 year. A bit of a boom/bust type of player who may or may not end up as a centre in the NHL. But, so far, he has all the tools that you’d look for. Colorado is in their window so they might consider trading a future piece for a win-now piece.

4. Brad Lambert (Jets) - drafted 30th overall in 2022. Another high-risk/high reward player. High end offensive skill and speed. The jets are pretty deep at center both in NHL players and prospects. They are in a competitive window and could definitely use some help along the way defence.

5. Jiri Kulich (Sabres) - drafted 28th overall in 2022. Has been developing really nicely but is more of a goal-scorer. Usually that fits more of a winger type player in the NHL.

6. Mavrik Bourque (Stars) - drafted 30th overall in 2020. Has produced well in the AHL looks ready to take the next step in the NHL. Dallas is deep at forward and may not have a spot for him. They also seem to always be in the market for top 4 defencemen.

7. Marco Kasper (Red Wings) - drafted 8th overall in 2022. Struggled to start in the AHL but he started to pick it up at the end of the year. I have Danielson as my first choice amongst these center prospects but Kasper would be a great pickup if Danielson is off the table.

8. Noah Ostlund (Sabres) - drafted 16th overall in 2022. Another great center prospect for Buffalo. Very skilled playmaker but under-sized for a center. Still has a high ceiling given the opportunity.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I think getting prospects away from Yzerman, particularly those ones he drafted, will be tough.
He will happily offer up Jonathan Berggren though.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think getting prospects away from Yzerman, particularly those ones he drafted, will be tough.
He will happily offer up Jonathan Berggren though.

Berggren has been in rumors for a full calendar year out of Detroit.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Berggren has been in rumors for a full calendar year out of Detroit.

Indeed. Not part of the Yzerplan.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The Yzerplan isn’t really going to plan.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Yeah I don't like how it's developing so far. Some bad picks (Cossa) but more importantly a lack of truly top line elite talent. They just never drafted highly enough. Seider/Raymond are big pieces, but are they going to be top 5 or top 10 in their positions? Maybe Seider.

[Jiri Hrdina]

The other way to look at it is if you buy into models that suggest you need a minimum of 5 starts to be a contender (one reason why I think the Flames re-build is not going to be quick at all - they have 2 potential stars in the system right now, that's it).

The Wings have Raymond and Seider with that potential.
Then they have a bunch of really nice supporting pieces but guys that i don't see as stars: Evidsson, Kasper, Danielson, etc. Maybe one of those develops into a star.

I just don't see how it's going to come together.

[konradical]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The other way to look at it is if you buy into models that suggest you need a minimum of 5 starts to be a contender (one reason why I think the Flames re-build is not going to be quick at all - they have 2 potential stars in the system right now, that's it).

The Wings have Raymond and Seider with that potential.
Then they have a bunch of really nice supporting pieces but guys that i don't see as stars: Evidsson, Kasper, Danielson, etc. Maybe one of those develops into a star.

I just don't see how it's going to come together.

I mean DeBrincat and Larkin are All Star caliber players. Its not just Raymond and Seider. I agree the Red Wings need more elite talent especially on defense, but I think they're team has more then 2 elite players lmao

[Ped]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Dailyfaceoff writer says Flames could be interested in Flyers goalie Kolosov:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1834329045011767418

Kolosov currently skipping Flyers training camp, Seravalli suggest the Flyers might toll the contract.
https://www.inquirer.com/flyers/flye...-20240911.html

Thought the issue with him was, he wanted to go back to the KHL this year and the Flyers would rather he didn't.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by konradical

I mean DeBrincat and Larkin are All Star caliber players. Its not just Raymond and Seider. I agree the Red Wings need more elite talent especially on defense, but I think they're team has more then 2 elite players lmao

Don't think DeBrincat counts as a star. Only 1 PPG season. 2 straight seasons of under 70 points. Don't think he does a lot if he's not scoring.


Same with Larkin, who finally hit PPG last season after coming very close the previous two. But while both are very, very good players, neither is elite at this point.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The other way to look at it is if you buy into models that suggest you need a minimum of 5 starts to be a contender (one reason why I think the Flames re-build is not going to be quick at all - they have 2 potential stars in the system right now, that's it).

The Wings have Raymond and Seider with that potential.
Then they have a bunch of really nice supporting pieces but guys that i don't see as stars: Evidsson, Kasper, Danielson, etc. Maybe one of those develops into a star.

I just don't see how it's going to come together.

I think it really depends a lot on what someone considers a successful rebuild. If you consider a Stanley Cup as the only thing that defines a "successful" rebuild, then you probably need at least 5 stars to have the best odds to achieve that. Of course, you do not need to draft all of those stars. They can be acquired through other means.

Of course the main goal is always to win the Cup, but I don't use that as my measurement to define a successful rebuild. For me, a successful rebuild is to develop enough homegrown talent that you can make the playoffs consistently and creating an atmosphere entices more talent to sign and to stay with the team long enough to hopefully get those 5 stars in place.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The Yzerplan isn’t really going to plan.

Larkin and Seider are the guys on that team IMO, Raymond and DeBrincat are complimentary. I don't even think Larkin is that high end, Seider is though, he is very impressive for a young defender.



Yzerman has thrown #### on the wall hoping that it sticks, baffling UFA signings for a couple of years now. Very hard to figure out what his plan is. Biggest surprise is that Kane wanted to stick around.

[Reggie Dunlop]

If Kolosov is playing in Russia the next few seasons, acquiring his rights wouldn't cost a lot. A low minor leaguer at best.

[1qqaaz]

Kolosov is just as small as Wolf. But having 4 seasons in the KHL by age 22 is pretty good.

[Junglist]

Yzerman made genius moves in Tampa that set them up for Cups.

His decision making in Detroit has been the exact opposite, I don’t see the direction.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Junglist

Yzerman made genius moves in Tampa that set them up for Cups.

His decision making in Detroit has been the exact opposite, I don’t see the direction.

It’s the reason I have Detroit and Buffalo as two targets for trades on my list. Those teams are desperate to get better right now. The patience from ownership has run out. There was a rumour at the end of last season about how frustrated the Detroit ownership is that their “new” arena has now been around for 7 seasons and still has not seen a playoff game.

Would be ideal if teams like Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa and Utah are all fighting for playoff spots this year… those are teams deep in high end prospects that could feel ownership and fan pressure to make a big trade to make a push for playoffs. You never know who else will be on the market amongst defencemen this season but, at this point, I think Andersson is the best defenceman available and he comes with an extra year and a very reasonable cap hit. My hope is coney can capitalize on that to get a top 30 prospect in the league. Ideally a centreman.

[Johnny Makarov]

Time to dump Ras for whatever. He is the last inept link to that playoff debacle against the Oilers.

The only 3 Flames left are Backlund and Coleman who both played great and Vlader who would have played great if Sutter would have put him in.

[dammage79]

That's a unique take. That was a good team that just ran out of gas against a tough Dallas team.