2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[badradio]

Originally Posted by saillias

Not sure how that makes sense. Prices are highest now and Brad can offer more than just rentals, our interesting assets have a full year after this. Business is slower and less of a seller's market in the summer. You wait until the off season you're shaving time and value off them. You're also competing with any UFAs left without a contract. If a GM calls a team in July and offer Hanifin or Toffoli or Lindholm with a trade deadline price tag there will still be interest but they will wait and see what happens next year. Then you have to wait for the 2024 trade deadline.

Agreed the time to sell is now, the problem is I don't know if Brad will be part of the rebuild or wants to be... so going out, I don't think he wants to be the guy selling players for picks, so I assume he will just sit on his hands and move on next year leaving the Flames at status quo.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I look at the top 16 of this draft and pray to the gods the Flames aren't buyers. You can land any number of stellar players. Snaging a dropping Michkov? Yeah okay, maybe get high enough to snag a Leo Carlsson? Yes please.

As good as the 2023 draft supposedly is, these young players are still lottery tickets. Outside the top 4 or 5 there are going to be a lot of the top 20 that likely don't amount to much.

On top of that I'll almost guarantee we won't be sellers so all we'll have is one pick in the high teens. Hardly franchise changing.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by chedder

As good as the 2023 draft supposedly is, these young players are still lottery tickets. Outside the top 4 or 5 there are going to be a lot of the top 20 that likely don't amount to much.

On top of that I'll almost guarantee we won't be sellers so all we'll have is one pick in the high teens. Hardly franchise changing.

1. I didn't say anything g about being sellers. I said not being buyers and trading the 1st.

2. A chance at a higher end player is still a chance at a higher end player. Nothing is ever guaranteed otherwise we'd be super happy banking on Huberdeaus 115 point production. Or a regressed to hismmeans meager 90p production.

No nothing certain but adding top end talent via the draft is always better than trading for it. Look at Gaudreau and Tkachuk, we grew those assets.


I guess what I'm saying is, draft, draft draft draft. All the damned time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Sandman

For all of you that want Tre to stand pat: What happens if we start peaking before the playoffs start, and make it in with a full head of steam? The same people who are saying, “they haven’t done enough to earn help at the deadline” will be complaining about the team’s lack of depth when we lose a few guys, then bow out. Of course Tre will make a move or two before the deadline, especially considering how the Kings looked before the playoffs began, that year they squeeked in and won it all. Anything CAN happen.

I can see what you and others mean about squeaking in but there are some significant differences.

The first LA team fired the coach and hired Sutter in December and although they didn't score they had.930 goaltending. The second cup team had the same type of goaltending.

The Blues also fired the coach and had top goaltending going into the playoffs.

This team while our scoring is inconsistent it's still over 3 per game but the goaltending is almost bottom of the league.

You need a goalie to win in the playoffs and we know that all to well.

[activeStick]

Not sure how reliable Adrian Dater is but according to him, through multiple sources, Toews has told Chicago he will not waive his NMC to allow for a trade.

[Major Major]

Would SJ be into:

Markstrom
1st unprotected
Zary
Ruzicka

CGY gets signed Meier 8x9

Gotta think the Calgary first, if in play, would gain significant interest. The idea it could be a top 15 pick I think is at least another first round picks' value compared to a high 20s pick.

Calgary gets better in net and up front immediately.

[FlamesAddiction]

There is a report today that Carolina has offered to take Puljuarvi in exchange for Ondrej Kase's LTIR contract, but Carolina wants Edmonton to put JP through waivers first so they can start him in the minors to see if they can get him going.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There is a report today that Carolina has offered to take Puljuarvi in exchange for Ondrej Kase's LTIR contract, but Carolina wants Edmonton to put JP through waivers first so they can start him in the minors to see if they can get him going.

If they put him on waivers I feel someone will claim him

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Would SJ be into:

Markstrom
1st unprotected
Zary
Ruzicka

CGY gets signed Meier 8x9

Gotta think the Calgary first, if in play, would gain significant interest. The idea it could be a top 15 pick I think is at least another first round picks' value compared to a high 20s pick.

Calgary gets better in net and up front immediately.

Better in net immediately, heh, that is good.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

If they put him on waivers I feel someone will claim him

I tend to agree. I think there are enough teams with nothing to lose at this point, that they would take him on for the rest of the season. Worst case scenario is that you don't qualify him and let him walk. Pretty much zero risk for a team that is rebuilding and wants to throw the dice on seeing if a change of scenery works for him.

[D as in David]

Any news on an expected return date to the Panthers for Duclair?

[topfiverecords]

Huberdeau for an extended Meier...who says no?

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Huberdeau for an extended Meier...who says no?

San Jose. They’re already dealing with Karlsson’s contract. Do they want to deal with another long-term deal of a guy with a 10.5m cap hit signed until his late 30’s?

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

San Jose. They’re already dealing with Karlsson’s contract. Do they want to deal with another long-term deal of a guy with a 10.5m cap hit signed until his late 30’s?

I would think not. Hertl is already a Hertl for them.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by saillias

Not sure how that makes sense. Prices are highest now and Brad can offer more than just rentals, our interesting assets have a full year after this. Business is slower and less of a seller's market in the summer. You wait until the off season you're shaving time and value off them. You're also competing with any UFAs left without a contract. If a GM calls a team in July and offer Hanifin or Toffoli or Lindholm with a trade deadline price tag there will still be interest but they will wait and see what happens next year. Then you have to wait for the 2024 trade deadline.

Teams though are also wrestling with the salary camp. In the off-season the market opens up.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Huberdeau for an extended Meier...who says no?

No one because SJ doesn’t even answer the call.

Meier is worth multiple picks.

Hubby’s value is really unknown, but it’s certainly less than that.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Would St. Louis be interested in Hanifin in the offseason? They could use an LD. They’ve got 3 1sts now.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Would St. Louis be interested in Hanifin in the offseason? They could use an LD. They’ve got 3 1sts now.

And who’s replacing him in the lineup? Flames have nothing in the system on the defence side. And no they won’t rebuild this summer.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

And who’s replacing him in the lineup? Flames have nothing in the system on the defence side. And no they won’t rebuild this summer.

Kylington

[sureLoss]

HNIC:

Toronto was worried top-end forwards would be soon gone
Decided Meier price was too rich and get two players rather than pay for one player in Meier

Bertuzzi doesn't appear to be on the market as long as Wings continue to be in a playoff position

Quiet deadline to be expected for Habs
Injuries to Monahan and Edmundson
Hughes believes he has right mix of vets and young players

Bruins looking at LD
in on Gavrikov and Chychrun
Issues on cap

Teams missing on Gavrikov will likely turn to Kulikov

Teams have called Vancouver about Miller but Friedman is not sure if it will go anywhere

Korpisalo is a depth goalie option for teams looking to shore up in net
his adjusted save percentage is really high since early December (higher than Sorokin, Otteinger, Sherstikin)

Trotz has zero desire to be a midseason head coach replacement
would rather start fresh at the beginning of the season