2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I think Connor and a 1st gets you one of those guys. In fact, Connor and a 2nd likely gets it done. Who would offer more than that? Certainly not the Flames.

Doesn’t fit $$ wise, so how does it get it done?

[icecube]

Kyle Connor is a first line goal scoring winger right now and the sky is the limit with his shot, hands and speed. No way in hell he gets traded.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Doesn’t fit $$ wise, so how does it get it done?

for who, Winnipeg?

They have piles of cap space for this year.

[Beninho]

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[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Doesn’t fit $$ wise, so how does it get it done?

Hows that?

They have 22 million in cap space as of today...or more appropriately they can absorb that much in contracts.

Or am i reading it wrong?

[Enoch Root]

Summarizing my views:

Jets have tons of room for this year.

I believe they are just looking at Stone and Duchene as rentals.

IMO, Connor and a 2nd easily gets either one of them (I doubt OTT gets that much)

Having said that, I cannot see the Jets giving up Connor for a rental - not a chance (though I hope they do)

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Apparently Kyle Connor is the next coming of Sydney Crosby and Eric Lindros all rolled into one.

Untouchable.

Worth more than Gretzky in his hey day...of course there wasn't as many "dimensions" back then...so there is that.

Ya... Thats exactly what I said.

[bigrangy]

You wouldn't want to move Connor for the rentals though, because he'll probably be cheap next season.


The Jets are going to be in a major cap crunch next year, especially if Laine wants 9+ million. Yes, he's an incredible goal scorer but with his on-and-off performance this year you'd have be at least a little worried about committing 70+ million dollars to him.


So instead you trade Laine for Stone@50%+Duchene@50%+Dzingel or something else, use the money that you would have spent on Laine to pay Stone.


So you get roughly a wash in talent long term (Laine out Stone in) while also getting a huge boost for this playoff run by adding Duchene.


Idk, it's got some merit. It'd be like doing Tkachuk for Stone+Duchene, though the Flames aren't in nearly as bad of a cap crunch as the Jets will be this summer.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

for who, Winnipeg?

They have piles of cap space for this year.

I was assuming if they are willing to give up Connor or Laine or Ehlers or any other rumoured forward that would fetch you a Stone they wouldn’t be purely in the rental market, so they’d be signing him.

I can’t imagine them giving up on any of those 3 for 30 games of Mark Stone.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I was assuming if they are willing to give up Connor or Laine or Ehlers or any other rumoured forward that would fetch you a Stone they wouldn’t be purely in the rental market, so they’d be signing him.

I can’t imagine them giving up on any of those 3 for 30 games of Mark Stone.

I agree - you can't give up any of those players for a rental. No matter what their cap situation is next year.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

You wouldn't want to move Connor for the rentals though, because he'll probably be cheap next season.


The Jets are going to be in a major cap crunch next year, especially if Laine wants 9+ million. Yes, he's an incredible goal scorer but with his on-and-off performance this year you'd have be at least a little worried about committing 70+ million dollars to him.


So instead you trade Laine for Stone@50%+Duchene@50%+Dzingel or something else, use the money that you would have spent on Laine to pay Stone.


So you get roughly a wash in talent long term (Laine out Stone in) while also getting a huge boost for this playoff run by adding Duchene.


Idk, it's got some merit. It'd be like doing Tkachuk for Stone+Duchene, though the Flames aren't in nearly as bad of a cap crunch as the Jets will be this summer.

I was thinking about something like this as well, and it would be epic!

Laine for both, on the assumption that you can negotiate an extension for Stone. Duchene you take as a rental.

Then figure out the cap situation in the summer.

The Jets would be seriously formidable this year (then in massive cap trouble going forward). Having said that, replacing Laine with Stone would make the forward group substantially better defensively, making it easier to consider moving one of Trouba or Meyers.

[Enoch Root]

The Jets really are in cap hell next year. They have 12 guys signed, totaling $56.4M, which doesn't sound that bad, until you see the names they have to sign this year. With $25M to play with, they have to sign 13 players, including:

Trouba..: $5.5M last year - $6M+?
Myers...: $5.5M last year - $6M+?
Laine....: $.93M last year - $8M+? (try for a bridge?)
Connor..: $.93M last year - $5M+? (try for a bridge?)
Brossoit: $.65M last year - $2.5M?

Those 5 add up to $27.5M, so at least one or them has to be moved or signed to a bridge. And even then, they would still have to add 8 more contracts with zero space left.

You have to think Laine is gone. Even trading Laine, they could be looking at having 8 guys all making over $6M (plus 2 more in the 5s), and they still have Morrissey, Kulikov, and Roslovic next year.

They HAVE to go all in for the cup this year. Because the door is slamming shut this summer.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Jets really are in cap hell next year. They have 12 guys signed, totaling $56.4M, which doesn't sound that bad, until you see the names they have to sign this year. With $25M to play with, they have to sign 13 players, including:

Trouba..: $5.5M last year - $6M+?
Myers...: $5.5M last year - $6M+?
Laine....: $.93M last year - $8M+? (try for a bridge?)
Connor..: $.93M last year - $5M+? (try for a bridge?)
Brossoit: $.65M last year - $2.5M?

Those 5 add up to $27.5M, so at least one or them has to be moved or signed to a bridge. And even then, they would still have to add 8 more contracts with zero space left.

You have to think Laine is gone. Even trading Laine, they could be looking at having 8 guys all making over $6M (plus 2 more in the 5s), and they still have Morrissey, Kulikov, and Roslovic next year.

They HAVE to go all in for the cup this year. Because the door is slamming shut this summer.

There might be something there for the Flames in the summer. I’d definitely try and save some trade chips in the first round pick, Dube and Kylington for a crack at Connor or Roslovic.

I’d much rather trade Kylington in a package for one of those two guys.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Jets really are in cap hell next year. They have 12 guys signed, totaling $56.4M, which doesn't sound that bad, until you see the names they have to sign this year. With $25M to play with, they have to sign 13 players, including:

Trouba..: $5.5M last year - $6M+?
Myers...: $5.5M last year - $6M+?
Laine....: $.93M last year - $8M+? (try for a bridge?)
Connor..: $.93M last year - $5M+? (try for a bridge?)
Brossoit: $.65M last year - $2.5M?

Those 5 add up to $27.5M, so at least one or them has to be moved or signed to a bridge. And even then, they would still have to add 8 more contracts with zero space left.

You have to think Laine is gone. Even trading Laine, they could be looking at having 8 guys all making over $6M (plus 2 more in the 5s), and they still have Morrissey, Kulikov, and Roslovic next year.

They HAVE to go all in for the cup this year. Because the door is slamming shut this summer.

Or they let Myers walk like any rational GM would and backfill him internally or with a $2.5M defenseman. It makes no sense to give up a good young piece when you have an underperfroming vet coming off the books.

[Bunk]

Brodie out of the lineup, no known injury. All hypothetical right now, but in wht kind of deal would it make sense to trade Brodie now? 1st, Dube, Brodie for extended Stone?

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Brodie out of the lineup, no known injury. All hypothetical right now, but in wht kind of deal would it make sense to trade Brodie now? 1st, Dube, Brodie for extended Stone?

i like the way you think

[handgroen]

day to day minor injury, but duschene seems like he's being pushed out in ottowa too.

[dammage79]

I think Brodie for Duchene 1 for 1 works for both teams. Usually you find out a guy is out day to day before a game day. not less than an hour before. Somethings fishy.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think Brodie for Duchene 1 for 1 works for both teams. Usually you find out a guy is out day to day before a game day. not less than an hour before. Somethings fishy.

You trade a top pair D for a rental forward? I don’t see how that works for the Flames. We should be loading up not shaking up the core of the team. Add a Duchene now and move Brodie in the summer to try and get the cap space to keep Duchene.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Bunk

but in wht kind of deal would it make sense to trade Brodie now?

Honestly, there isn't much that makes sense to me.

Brodie's the top pairing defenseman heading into the playoffs. Without him, assuming it's someone like Stone or Duchene coming back and not defense, you'd be looking at Giordano, Hamonic and then four defenseman between 22-20? That's not what teams do heading into the playoffs.

Normally a team with the makeup of the Flames would be looking at adding a veteran defenseman heading into the playoffs, but maybe Stone sort of makes up for that. Certainly would be unusual for such a team to trade one of the few veteran defenseman in the middle of the season.

Brodie seems to make sense as an off-season deal, would have to be extremely tempting to move him during the trade deadline.