02-18-2019, 10:29 AM
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#10441
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Royle9
That might get you 1, not both lol.
Petan has no value, Lemieux has no value so it’s Kyle and the 1st
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Kyle Connor alone would get you both. But Winnipeg wont trade him
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02-18-2019, 10:31 AM
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#10442
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Kyle Connor alone would get you both. But Winnipeg wont trade him
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I don't think he would.
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02-18-2019, 10:33 AM
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#10443
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
That might get you 1, not both lol.
Petan has no value, Lemieux has no value so it’s Kyle and the 1st
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That's just false.
Both are young guys, drafted relatively high, finding their way to the NHL.
Lemieux in particular looks to be on a really good progression.
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02-18-2019, 10:44 AM
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#10444
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
That's just false.
Both are young guys, drafted relatively high, finding their way to the NHL.
Lemieux in particular looks to be on a really good progression.
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Guys “finding their way” in the NHL don’t get you a top 15 forward in the league when paired with a super late 1st.
That’s like saying Bennet and our 1st gets Stone which it doesn’t.
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02-18-2019, 10:46 AM
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#10445
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Guys “finding their way” in the NHL don’t get you a top 15 forward in the league when paired with a super late 1st.
That’s like saying Bennet and our 1st gets Stone which it doesn’t.
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And Bennett is the far better player right now
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02-18-2019, 10:52 AM
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#10446
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Guys “finding their way” in the NHL don’t get you a top 15 forward in the league when paired with a super late 1st.
That’s like saying Bennet and our 1st gets Stone which it doesn’t.
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Bennett is no where near the player Kyle Conner is...no idea what you are rambling about there.
Ottawa gets 3 different pieces that are all cost controlled...its not just one guy.
You dont think it can happen. fine, I do and I think it will be a similar package no matter where those guys end up.
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02-18-2019, 10:55 AM
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#10447
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Im guessing a Kyle Conner/Brendan Lemieux or Nic Petan/1st package for Stone and Dzingel.
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The Jets would not in a million different dimensions trade Kyle Connor this season. And that second offer for both Stone and Dzingel is pure trash.
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02-18-2019, 10:56 AM
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#10448
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Bennett is no where near the player Kyle Conner is...no idea what you are rambling about there.
Ottawa gets 3 different pieces that are all cost controlled...its not just one guy.
You dont think it can happen. fine, I do and I think it will be a similar package no matter where those guys end up.
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Your post doesn’t specifically say “Connor and Petan or Lemieux + a 1st” it reads as if you could do one of those 3 + the 1st.
Sure all 3 + 1st probably gets you one. However they wouldn’t have the cap space to fit stones 7.5 this season.
But why would the Jets trade Kyle... he’s way more controllable and arguable doing just as good.
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02-18-2019, 11:01 AM
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#10449
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I don't think he would.
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Connor is a 22 year old RFA with elite skill and very high ceiling. Stone is 26 year old UFA. Dzingel is also UFA with no guarantee of staying either.
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02-18-2019, 11:03 AM
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#10450
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Your post doesn’t specifically say “Connor and Petan or Lemieux + a 1st” it reads as if you could do one of those 3 + the 1st.
Sure all 3 + 1st probably gets you one. However they wouldn’t have the cap space to fit stones 7.5 this season.
But why would the Jets trade Kyle... he’s way more controllable and arguable doing just as good.
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Yes it does...when you see / that means "stop", so its Conner and one of Petan or Lemieux and a 1st.
But since this is impossible in your eyes, please explain how else it gets done and why the Jets have repeatedly been linked to the hometown boy and how they fit him in $$ wise now without sending salary back
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02-18-2019, 11:03 AM
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#10451
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Connor is a 22 year old RFA with elite skill and very high ceiling. Stone is 26 year old UFA. Dzingel is also UFA with no guarantee of staying either.
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People throw the word "elite" around much too easy.
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02-18-2019, 11:06 AM
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#10452
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icecube
The Jets would not in a million different dimensions trade Kyle Connor this season. And that second offer for both Stone and Dzingel is pure trash.
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You sure are one to jump on what others say without offering the "non-trash/correct"  version of things.
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02-18-2019, 11:08 AM
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#10453
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Bennett is no where near the player Kyle Conner is...no idea what you are rambling about there.
Ottawa gets 3 different pieces that are all cost controlled...its not just one guy.
You dont think it can happen. fine, I do and I think it will be a similar package no matter where those guys end up.
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you were talking about Lemieux and Petan (finding their way)
their value isn't very high
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02-18-2019, 11:08 AM
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#10454
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Bennett is no where near the player Kyle Conner is...no idea what you are rambling about there.
Ottawa gets 3 different pieces that are all cost controlled...its not just one guy.
You dont think it can happen. fine, I do and I think it will be a similar package no matter where those guys end up.
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But Connor is not cost controlled, which is why someone suggested him. He is an RFA due for a big raise (and they have Laine in the same boat).
Petan doesn't have much value, but might be of interest to Ottawa to help round out their roster through the rebuild.
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02-18-2019, 11:09 AM
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#10455
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
People throw the word "elite" around much too easy.
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Apparently Kyle Connor is the next coming of Sydney Crosby and Eric Lindros all rolled into one.
Untouchable.
Worth more than Gretzky in his hey day...of course there wasn't as many "dimensions" back then...so there is that.
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02-18-2019, 11:09 AM
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#10456
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
People throw the word "elite" around much too easy.
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It's the new Epic
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02-18-2019, 11:10 AM
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#10457
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Franchise Player
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Kyle Connor with 0.75 points per game is "elite"?
There are a lot of "elite" players in the NHL then.
He's like 80th in the league in scoring lol.
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02-18-2019, 11:13 AM
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#10458
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Yes it does...when you see / that means "stop", so its Conner and one of Petan or Lemieux and a 1st.
But since this is impossible in your eyes, please explain how else it gets done and why the Jets have repeatedly been linked to the hometown boy and how they fit him in $$ wise now without sending salary back
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Agree to disagree, it does not at all read like that to me.
I don’t see Winnipeg getting Stone or Duchene unless they are giving up a bigger asset and a contract with higher $$ than Connor. At this point I’d assume Ehlers would have to be apart of it to start.
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02-18-2019, 11:14 AM
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#10459
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Kyle Connor with 0.75 points per game is "elite"?
There are a lot of "elite" players in the NHL then.
He's like 80th in the league in scoring lol.
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And that's playing mostly with Scheifele and Wheeler. On a 3rd line, like Bennett is, what would he be at: 0.5-0.6 pace?
(I am not knocking him, he is a very good player and would be worth a lot in trade, but elite?)
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02-18-2019, 11:16 AM
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#10460
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Agree to disagree, it does not at all read like that to me.
I don’t see Winnipeg getting Stone or Duchene unless they are giving up a bigger asset and a contract with higher $$ than Connor. At this point I’d assume Ehlers would have to be apart of it to start.
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I think Connor and a 1st gets you one of those guys. In fact, Connor and a 2nd likely gets it done. Who would offer more than that? Certainly not the Flames.
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