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[81MC]

Was offered a job I applied for. Thought I’d be pretty stoked. Nope, turns out not making significantly more money while being exposed to significantly more risk isn’t all that exciting of a proposition.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Was offered a job I applied for. Thought I’d be pretty stoked. Nope, turns out not making significantly more money while being exposed to significantly more risk isn’t all that exciting of a proposition.

Went from laundering money to drug smuggling?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Locke

I'll second that!

You want to apply to a number of schools to cover your bases.

Some schools will apply that application fee to your tuition if you're accepted or if you decide to go to those schools, but if you apply to 3 Universities you pay 3 application fees, you can only attend 1 school so those other fees are flushed.

That is some serious bull####!

I find it really strange that BC, Alberta, Sask are all reasonably priced, even compared to when I was young and applying to universities. Has Ontario always been this exorbitant?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I find it really strange that BC, Alberta, Sask are all reasonably priced, even compared to when I was young and applying to universities. Has Ontario always been this exorbitant?

Probably. I dont know what the costs are all over the place anymore, but when I was applying to Universities I recall that U of T was the most expensive.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I find it really strange that BC, Alberta, Sask are all reasonably priced, even compared to when I was young and applying to universities. Has Ontario always been this exorbitant?

Originally Posted by Locke

Probably. I don't know what the costs are all over the place anymore, but when I was applying to Universities I recall that U of T was the most expensive.

When my son was looking at engineering programs across Canada Ontario tuition was significantly higher than western Canada's universities.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

When my son was looking at engineering programs across Canada Ontario tuition was significantly higher than western Canada's universities.

Yeah, I dont know why that is, I'm guessing some BS pretense of 'Prestige' but its kind of stupid.

I was applying for Business faculties and went in order of National Rank but still, maybe thats something that should be standardized?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

When my son was looking at engineering programs across Canada Ontario tuition was significantly higher than western Canada's universities.

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, I dont know why that is, I'm guessing some BS pretense of 'Prestige' but its kind of stupid.



I was applying for Business faculties and went in order of National Rank but still, maybe thats something that should be standardized?

Originally Posted by Locke

Probably. I dont know what the costs are all over the place anymore, but when I was applying to Universities I recall that U of T was the most expensive.

Just U of T and Waterloo. Initially we were thinking just go hog wild with the applications, no worries! Then he was like, “Dad can you pay for this?” and it was $450 for two applications. I thought maybe that OUAC thing was a scam, so I searched through everything on the university pages and found that it was legit.

Speaking of, can you use your child’s RESP funds to reimburse yourself for this?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Just U of T and Waterloo. Initially we were thinking just go hog wild with the applications, no worries! Then he was like, “Dad can you pay for this?” and it was $450 for two applications. I thought maybe that OUAC thing was a scam, so I searched through everything on the university pages and found that it was legit.

Speaking of, can you use your child’s RESP funds to reimburse yourself for this?

Naw, you gotta pick like 4 tops. Primary, Secondary, Backup and Safety.

Even then, that could cost you a grand. Just for applications.

After that it gets hella expensive.

And thats if you're being smart and reasonable. I remember guys in High School applying for places like St. FX, U of T, UBC, etc and they fully admitted their grades were awful...so why waste the money on the application?

Anyways, good luck to you. I've done it far too many times, myself, for my sister, both daughters, my son, a couple nephews...I hate University applications, almost as much as University Course Registration.

[surferguy]

Universities should be free. Change my mind

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Universities should be free. Change my mind

For mature students for sure. Less to worry about.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Universities should be free. Change my mind

I know its an unpopular opinion, but I disagree.

Did you go to University? (I'm not too sure of your background)

When I went, every single person I met (with the exception of 1 who is actually a poster on here) who had a free ride, didnt GAF about University.

We dont have that culture here in North America that you see in Asian or European cultures, people need some skin in the game in order to be at their best.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Universities should be free. Change my mind

Post secondary in general. Let's not forget about trades(which we desperately need)! If it isn't broad based, you will just have everyone thinking they belong at University, to their own detriment.

[Shazam]

I am okay with post-secondary being free.

[Ped]

I don't think it should be outright free. I think there should be loans for certain programs (such as doctor, etc),and if you graduate and do the job for a certain amount of time, the loans are automatically forgiven.


But if you decide after that time you don't want to be a doctor, and you want to go back, this time the loans won't be forgiven no matter what.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ped

I don't think it should be outright free. I think there should be loans for certain programs (such as doctor, etc),and if you graduate and do the job for a certain amount of time, the loans are automatically forgiven.


But if you decide after that time you don't want to be a doctor, and you want to go back, this time the loans won't be forgiven no matter what.

That would be worst case, I think, because then you’re just subsidizing high-paying jobs where applications already outpace admissions.

It would make more sense to make all post-secondary free or make high-demand/lower admission or lower-earning potential education free.

There is a lot of benefit to going through the university experience even if you don’t use your degree, and society would benefit as a whole if more people went through it.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Universities should be free. Change my mind

Nothing is free.......


Anyway, several years ago my wife and I went to an Alumni talk given by the Dean of Students at UAlberta. He spoke of the stress today's students are under and obviously one of those is financial. At the Q&A when he was done he was asked about free tuition like they do in Europe. 'Great idea' he said, 'and who's going to decide which half of students currently in university wont be going anymore'? Point was that free tuition comes with the trade off that way fewer students are admitted into university in Europe. The number is something like 50% or fewer than in Canada.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Went from laundering money to drug smuggling?

Bet you could fit a lot in an 81 Monte Carlo, and some in an 81MC.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Just U of T and Waterloo. Initially we were thinking just go hog wild with the applications, no worries! Then he was like, “Dad can you pay for this?” and it was $450 for two applications. I thought maybe that OUAC thing was a scam, so I searched through everything on the university pages and found that it was legit.

Speaking of, can you use your child’s RESP funds to reimburse yourself for this?

Depending on how you have the RESP setup (I don’t know about the scholarship ones…which just to be clear everyone should avoid like the plague!), but RESPs don’t have you submit receipts for reimbursing or things like that. You can withdraw however much you like, use it as you please and it’s taxable to the student.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Locke

Naw, you gotta pick like 4 tops. Primary, Secondary, Backup and Safety.

Even then, that could cost you a grand. Just for applications.

After that it gets hella expensive.

And thats if you're being smart and reasonable. I remember guys in High School applying for places like St. FX, U of T, UBC, etc and they fully admitted their grades were awful...so why waste the money on the application?

Anyways, good luck to you. I've done it far too many times, myself, for my sister, both daughters, my son, a couple nephews...I hate University applications, almost as much as University Course Registration.

Yep. Got the backup in the bag already. U of T and Waterloo are primaries. UBC cause we have family there, so worst-case he can rent a room from family. The main thing I am hearing is for engineering is if you want a co-op or anything, UBC isn’t great. Lots of trade-offs to worry about.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Yep. Got the backup in the bag already. U of T and Waterloo are primaries. UBC cause we have family there, so worst-case he can rent a room from family. The main thing I am hearing is for engineering is if you want a co-op or anything, UBC isn’t great. Lots of trade-offs to worry about.

Depending on the type of Engineering why not stay in Calgary? U of C Engineering is one of the best in the Country.

*spits on ground*

And I say that as a U of C Business student, sworn enemies of the U of C Engineering students!

Enemies 4 Lyfe!!