2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by devo22

Ducks prospect Henry Thrun will opt for free agency when his four years of college eligibility are up this summer.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1625964397985411072

I'd imagine he'll have a good market. Great production during his whole college career, including 24 points in 24 games this season. Wheeler had him as the 5th best Ducks prospect in his latest rankings ... but only the 4th best defenseman in their system (behind Mintyukov, Zellweger and Luneau), which might help explain his decision.

We discussed him in the prospects forum- he's 6'2", he can skate, and he has 24 points in 24 games this year, and 32 in 35 the year prior. Maybe his teammate Matt Coronato can bring him to Calgary (if/when he chooses to sign).

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

Unless they go out and grab chychrun right after?

Ok, now we're cookin'.....

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I don’t get why Weegar is suddenly getting thrown into trade speculation recently after signing that contract. He seems like the right type of guy and d-man to keep around

He's 29 years old and I imagine they want to lock up Hanafin long term. Also the team's most pressing need is a scoring winger and you need to give up something of quality to get something of quality.

[bubbsy]

As much as fans love all the pieces, the team isn’t really good, and all the pieces are under contract next season.

Flames have to consider how to improve in areas like playing driving forwards. That’s likely to come at the expense of moving guys like lindholm, hanafin, weegar, mangiapane, Coleman.

Likely not at this deadline, unless the team can lose a few more between now and then. But has to happen before the start of next season.

[GioforPM]

Obviously US college players don’t want to play in [checks notes] Southern California.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Obviously US college players don’t want to play in [checks notes] Southern California.

He's a Boston boy. Don't be surprised if he ends up a Bruin.

[Monahammer]

Yeah this feels like an Adam Fox style hometown move. But I hope we throw a fat rookie max contract his way. It would be nice to snipe a prospect like this for once.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Vladar has been below average. Chicago, Columbus, and Arizona are at the bottom of the league and they all have better goaltenders than Vladar.

Vladar only looks average because Markstrom is playing so far below it.

Do impartial Sutter fans think .905 SV% and 2.73 GAA is “solid”? There are 30 better goaltenders in both categories. (And before the usual posters say “And Markstrom has been solid???” No, he hasn’t, not ever valid critique of Vladar needs to be excused by “but Markstrom!”)

This is all true, however, for some reason, the team has more success with Vladar in net. The Great One himself said they didn't care about Fuhr's stats. He always made the saves when needed to win. Tough for me to imagine being a player and caring which goalie was in net, but maybe seeing that one extra save from Vladar or seeing Markstrom let in another early one does make a difference.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I don’t get why Weegar is suddenly getting thrown into trade speculation recently after signing that contract. He seems like the right type of guy and d-man to keep around

Maybe he’s seen where this is going and has quietly told the team “look, if you can move me somewhere, do it”.

It can’t be because of performance - he’s been, IMO, the most rock steady player on the blue line.

Backlund might be the only Flame I’m less concerned about.

[Monahammer]

Weegar would also be the last player on my want to trade list. He's the saving grace of the Tkachuk trade as of this minute, IMO. Ottawa would really have to blow the doors off to get me interested.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Weegar would also be the last player on my want to trade list. He's the saving grace of the Tkachuk trade as of this minute, IMO. Ottawa would really have to blow the doors off to get me interested.

Brad Treliving special in reverse order.

Weegar to Ottawa for a first and two seconds.

Who says no?

(Discussion purposes only, I don’t think the Flames would do this).

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Brad Treliving special in reverse order.

Weegar to Ottawa for a first and two seconds.

Who says no?

(Discussion purposes only, I don’t think the Flames would do this).

If it is the 2023 1st and done at the draft I would definitely be interested from the Flames point of view. Ottawa currently is picking 10th overall in a deep draft and the Flames are 17th. You add those 2 prospects to the Coronato/Wolf/Pelletier/Zary group and the pool is looking better not to mention the 2 2nds which would give the Flames multiple picks in the second round this year and next.

If it is 2024 1st I am not as interested as I think Ottawa is nearing a turning point in their team. Stutzle and Tkachuk are going to be superstars with many other solid forwards and Weegar gives them what they need on the blueline.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Brad Treliving special in reverse order.

Weegar to Ottawa for a first and two seconds.

Who says no?

(Discussion purposes only, I don’t think the Flames would do this).

Is the 1st unprotected 2023? Lol... That is tempting given the Senators position in the standings. But, I don't think it's enough. Defensively skilled defensemen are at an all time premium, and Weegar has offensive upside as well (as evidenced in Florida). His D numbers are surreal. I'm holding out for a 1st and a top prospect if he's on the block.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Brad Treliving special in reverse order.

Weegar to Ottawa for a first and two seconds.

Who says no?

(Discussion purposes only, I don’t think the Flames would do this).

Ottawa.

A bottom-10 team isn’t trading this years first for a 29 year old D.

I’d still do it for next years 1st, I don’t think the Sens will be much improved in either case.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Ottawa.

A bottom-10 team isn’t trading this years first for a 29 year old D.

I’d still do it for next years 1st, I don’t think the Sens will be much improved in either case.

Could it then 2023 2nd + 2024 1st & 2024 2nd

Or

Weegar and Flames 2023 1st (assumed 14-18th) for Ottawa 2023 1st )assumed ~10th OA) 2023 2nd & 2024 2nd

?

[devo22]

I just can't see us sign a player to an 8 deal, only to trade him before it even starts.

[Vinny01]

End of the day if the Flames moved on from Weegar or Huberdeau I don’t think it is a horrible look on the organization nor would I think the players be that pissed. End of the day Huberdeau and Weegar cashed in on great seasons and locked in max term deals where they will both be 30 in year 1 of the deal. No way either is securing the same money if they hit the open market especially considering they could only sign for 7 years. No way Huberdeau gets $84M or Weegar $50M if they were available in the summer in my opinion.

The team and players were motivated to get deals done. The flames wanted to secure their long term future after their 2 superstars left in the summer and not be faced with the same problem with the players they got for Tkachuk. Weegar and Huberdeau wanted to cash in off career years and secure the bag now vs rolling the dice on a new team hoping they would have another career season. Both players offensive games have completely fallen off but at least Weegar still has elite defensive metrics.

If Hanifin is willing to stay here long term then I would be far more willing to move Weegar.

[prizefighterinferno]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

End of the day if the Flames moved on from Weegar or Huberdeau I don’t think it is a horrible look on the organization nor would I think the players be that pissed. End of the day Huberdeau and Weegar cashed in on great seasons and locked in max term deals where they will both be 30 in year 1 of the deal. No way either is securing the same money if they hit the open market especially considering they could only sign for 7 years. No way Huberdeau gets $84M or Weegar $50M if they were available in the summer in my opinion.

The team and players were motivated to get deals done. The flames wanted to secure their long term future after their 2 superstars left in the summer and not be faced with the same problem with the players they got for Tkachuk. Weegar and Huberdeau wanted to cash in off career years and secure the bag now vs rolling the dice on a new team hoping they would have another career season. Both players offensive games have completely fallen off but at least Weegar still has elite defensive metrics.

If Hanifin is willing to stay here long term then I would be far more willing to move Weegar.

The wisdom (or lack thereof) of moving Weegar notwithstanding, I agree that Ottawa is a bit of an exception there given his ties to the area.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Wouldn’t move Weegar short of overpayment. Like, Zaitsev, 1st, 2nd, and Pinto kind of return. Not really an overpayment, so maybe 2 1sts just to take Zaitsev too. Had to include Zaitsev assuming they would like to free up cap for Weegar.

[CFO]

Flames have no young prospect even coming close to weegar right now or a legit top 4 guy.

Porier has offensive high end potential but that's it.