[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[Monahammer]

Bennett isn't some unstoppable wrecking ball on the ice. His hitting prowess is as overblown as his playoff success.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If Bennett hadn't formally requested a trade, I imagine this "Coach decision" will certainly bring that formal request out.

Last game I think it was when one of the analysts/broadcasters ran a replay of Tkachuk mucking it up and then they commented on how the team backed him up. You know who "backed him up" in the scrum? It was Benny. Benny was also out there laying hits last game, unlike everyone else.

This team seems to want to play emotionless, slow, soft, boring hockey by design. I don't believe in this approach.

He was also out there getting outchanced and outshot at a crazy rate.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

If Bennett is a healthy scratch tonight and it's not trade related, it's absolutely indefensible by Ward.

Bennett hasn't been good, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as 3 or 4 other players that seem to be directly responsible for a goal against per game.

WINK WINK

i think all the adults in the room know that this is of course trade related no matter the denials.

saying bennett's scratched but it does not involve a trade is like saying that PLD didn't have an issue with torts.

[PepsiFree]

Maybe it's possible that people like Sam Bennett because people fall in love with bottom six or seemingly irrelevant players all the time for the things they DO contribute even if they do so inconsistently. Maybe we don't need to psychoanalyze everything.

Maybe we don't need to call it all a myth, or a legend, or whatever, and just realise that people appreciate different things about different players, and can enjoy different players for different reasons. Spiralling out of control? Nah, it's hockey, it is an entertaining game, at a certain point the only thing that spirals out of control is someone's need to be right and convince other people that their subjective opinion about a player is the only real one.

For every group of people that love or hate a player on the home team, from Gaudreau to Bennett, there is bound to be at least one person who feel the opposite way. Who is right? Nobody cares.

Thread after thread of the same conversations, so much time repeating the same damn thing in some weird attempt to make THIS the one that really convinces people who don't care to be convinced, because they see it differently, and they're happy with that.. because it's hockey... and who really cares.

All I'm saying is y'all need jesus.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Teams that can use, and would love to have Bennett :

Detroit. Can send back Jonatan Berggren (point per game player in the SHL, ready to come over and contribute next year)

New Jersey. Can send back Micheal McLeod (right handed C/RW just starting to produce in the NHL. Calling card is he's insanely fast)

I wouldn't think he'd go to a fully established team like the Leafs. What would he do there? Get ready for a very unexciting return, of a prospect with unsure potential.

I feel like if we have to legitimately ask ourselves if the player is being scratched for trade reasons or performance reasons, they probably aren't getting us this much in return.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

No, good teams/players show up for regular season and playoffs.

The Sam Bennett playoff warrior myth is clearly spiralling out of control for some of you guys.

Totally. People act like Bennet was some Michael Jordan level MVP who led the Flames to glory. Yeah he had a few good games in the playoffs. Lots of third line players have good games in the playoffs. Most of them also have competent regular seasons. Personally I'm tired of waiting for Bennett to put a consistent game together. Just move him and get a body back. This is not a high stakes trade.

[Vansmack]

Originally Posted by greyshep

Not interested in him. Seems to be out of the same mold as Pavel Brendl.

Currently has 7 points and is a -2. Sounds like a stat line from the 1way talents up North.

... that stat line is a lot better than 1 point and -5

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

If Bennett is a healthy scratch tonight and it's not trade related, it's absolutely indefensible by Ward.

Bennett hasn't been good, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as 3 or 4 other players that seem to be directly responsible for a goal against per game.

Huh?

Bennett is literally last place in CF% and last place in xGF% this year.

There's the defense ... guessing Ward would take less time than me to come up with that.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Too many fans here are convinced he’s a lot worse than he is.

Bingo has done numerous statistical deep dives that demonstrate without a doubt that Bennett is a competent 3rd liner

I can agree with this.
If people just said this the whole time instead of "he needs to be given 10 games beside Johnny and Mony"; there would be no Bennett arguments on CP.

Anyway, this must be trade related. He has played pretty well the last few games since the word got out.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by greyshep

Not interested in him. Seems to be out of the same mold as Pavel Brendl.

Currently has 7 points and is a -2. Sounds like a stat line from the 1way talents up North.

We should be jumping for joy is we could trade Bennett for Buchnevich.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Vansmack

... that stat line is a lot better than 1 point and -5

7 points would be f'in great even on our second line. Out to lunch opinion lol.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by greyshep

Not interested in him. Seems to be out of the same mold as Pavel Brendl.

Currently has 7 points and is a -2. Sounds like a stat line from the 1way talents up North.

His linemates Kreider and Zibanejad are -3 and -4 respectively. Panarin is also sitting at zero.

I think black and white criticism of +/- in evaluating him on this stat is too simplistic.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Edmonton might be tempted if GMMcD vouches for his childhood friend over the guy he seemingly doesnt want to play with on the same line!

But I think it would be a stupid trade for them to make at this point.

If they weren’t our most hated rival and were just another team I would likely be happy to swap Bennett for Puljujarvi but considering it is a heated rival where Bennett has a long lasting relationship with their franchise player and Bennett brings a huge physical edge it doesn’t make sense to me.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Totally. People act like Bennet was some Michael Jordan level MVP who led the Flames to glory. Yeah he had a few good games in the playoffs. Lots of third line players have good games in the playoffs. Most of them also have competent regular seasons. Personally I'm tired of waiting for Bennett to put a consistent game together. Just move him and get a body back. This is not a high stakes trade.

Well compared to regular-season Bennett he was Michael Jordan in the playoffs.

and LOL to think those who thinks Bennett will bite us in the ass on his new team... All signs point to NO with that *snip* hockey IQ.

I would love it if we traded him for Hathaway.

[jlh2640]

I just cannot get behind this one. Who is worthy of his spot honestly

[Wastedyouth]

Bennett for Buchnevich would be a wizard level win. Buchnevich could play on the top two lines and actually produce at a decent rate.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

I just cannot get behind this one. Who is worthy of his spot honestly

Whoever we're trading him for. If not that, then I could see Gawdin, Phillips, Ruzika being given a chance in his slot. The reality is that Bennett has been abjectly terrible in every statistical category all season.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

I just cannot get behind this one. Who is worthy of his spot honestly

I don't trust Dreger for the flames.

Fully expect him to play tonight alongside Gaudreau and Monahan.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I can agree with this.
If people just said this the whole time instead of "he needs to be given 10 games beside Johnny and Mony"; there would be no Bennett arguments on CP.

Anyway, this must be trade related. He has played pretty well the last few games since the word got out.

Agreed, except word got out mid second game in Montreal, no? That’s only 1.5 games ago. I thought he played well in that game but not so much last game.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I like the idea of acquiring Puljujarvi but don't like the idea of Sam Bennett in Edmonton.

I kind of do because he will totally stiff them and bounce.